Automated Content, Article Spinners and Other Artificial Things — I'm Not Brave Enough!

in #writing7 years ago

I like Sunday mornings because pretty much everyone in the house sleeps in and things are quiet. I tend to be (mostly) a "morning person" whose brain functions best between my first cup of coffee and about lunchtime.

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Fog bank on the ocean...

These days, I spend more time with Steemit in the morning than with my "other" blogs. To me, this is still very much a "community" foremost, as well as a blogging venue. 

In this morning's rounds, I decided to do something new: I went to the "SteemBotTracker" and spent a while looking at the type of content Steemit users are paying to upvote.

There's so much controversy over these bid bots and how "garbage is upvoted to trending" and on and on... but many of those voices are based on hearsay and "me too" piling-on, rather than direct observation. 

Four Major Groups?

My brief journey suggested four primary groups of users:

First, pretty well created posts — by newcomers and old-comers alike — that someone decides WILL go to Trending, no matter what. So they throw hundreds of dollars at numerous bots to get their upvote total up in the $500+ range.

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Getting up close and personal!

Second, established "senior" Steemians who use bidbots to add another $20-$50 to a post that's already organically earning as much as $100. Often, they don't buy a vote till several days into the life of the post.

Third, lots and lots of mostly new users who pay to use bots to take pretty "marginal" content from being rewarded less than a dollar with a tiny number of "organic" upvotes, to being rewarded as much as perhaps $50.00. But they are NOT really the crowd who's "buying their way to trending."

Fourth, true "shitposters" of every color and stripe, who take content that's barely recognizable as "content" and upvote it to sometimes ridiculous levels. A blurry selfie at $320.00? A nonsensical paragraph with no images, clearly run through a translator, upvoted to $200.00? A string of "naked" (as in, no description at ALL) links to YouTube clips, upvoted to $175.00 each? Clearly "re-spun" articles copied from the web, voted to $250.00? Yup, saw all of those.

As many argue, Steemit is a "free environment," so I'm only trying to point out these user groups, not to pass judgment on them.

We Now Welcome Content Spinning

What mostly inspired me to write this post was that I had a little "flashback" this morning, to a time a few months before the late great Squidoo content site (at one time an Alexa top-100 site) crashed, and again not long before social-media-that-pays site Bubblews crashed. 

What was it? 

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Bright yellow lilies

Automated content spinners!

This morning, I actually saw a Steemit post that was basically a promotion for article spinning software. It basically promised that you could either enter a keyword, and the software would automatically write an article around that keyword, OR you could copy any piece of text (from an article, news site, or whatever) and the software would "re-write" it in such a way that it would be unrecognizable to any plagiarism software.

Shortly after that, I came across a rather nonsensical post that clearly was a "segment" of something else, that had also been run through a translator, and now posted as "original content."

I remember back in 2010-12 when Google really started cracking down on so-called "content farms" which were little more than eternally re-spun paragraphs of nonsense, posted to web sites over and over using "black hat" SEO techniques to gain visibility in searches. 

Some of you might also remember a time when you'd search for something, and most of the search results where merely links to more search results, not actual information

No Reason For Existing

I remember, back then, thinking how most of this content had no reason for existing, other than to facilitate some content farmer's ability to collect fractions of a cent from advertising revenue. 

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Getting close to a rhododendron

The content added zero value to the overall web experience, it was annoyingly clogged with advertising, and in most cases just annoying to any user who might be lured into looking at it. 

What's more, it robbed revenue from legitimate bloggers and webmasters who provided real content... their ad revenues were "diluted" by the vast number of "empty clicks" that were diverted from real content.

I also remember — back then — thinking of the analogy of a town where you'd drive down Main Street and there'd be lots of stores with advertising banners and flashing neon "OPEN" signs, but if you stopped and actually went into one of those stores, they'd all be empty... and you'd learn that the only reason they existed was because someone had agreed to pay the shop owners 10 cents for every person through their front door.

In fact, there was no actual selling of anything, just "the ILLUSION that stores exist."

Of course, that's just an analogy.

But it does make you ponder... "Who could be BOTHERED to visit such a town?"

Maybe I'm Just Not Brave Enough...

What I find rather mindboggling — and what keeps bringing me back to the idea that I may not be brave enough for the world — is that there are actually lots of apologists for such systems. 

They seem to exist across almost all sectors of life. 

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I'm just trying to Zen with all this...

Some part of me accepts that; the part I am less accepting of is that the net effect of their presence tends to be akin to that of a swarm of locusts: There is a brief explosive feeding frenzy, followed by complete dereliction and famine for ALL... both the locusts themselves, AND the people who legitimately were growing crops.

The other mindbloggling thing is that people never seem to learn from history. That is, they may learn and change their approaches to how things are done, but they tend to forget about Human Nature... which seems to be eternally unchangeable. To continue the analogy, locusts don't "stop being locusts" just because you plant the crops in a different field, in a different arrangements. Nor because you "ask them nicely" to not show up. They are still going to come in and rape the land, UNLESS you install locust-proof netting around everything. 

Maybe I'm just too old for this (Ironically, the title of my introductory post from January 2017...), or too old-fashioned, in that I believe that in order for something — ANYTHING — to be created and exist, it ought to add some measure of value to our lives. But I could be wrong.

Well, that's about it, for the Sunday ramble-- hope you all have a great rest of your Sunday!

How About You? Are you familiar with "spun content?" Do you remember the days where searching for (for example) "digital cameras" would land you on a site with LINKS to more searches about digital cameras? Did these things annoy you? Do you think spun content might become a problem on Steemit? Would you ever use a "content spinner" instead of creating your own posts? Have you ever done so? Leave a comment-- share your experiences-- be part of the conversation!


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I look that the bidbot tracker also. lol, I get what you meant and I concur with your findings.

I just want people to remember to use flags when content is doesn't bring value!

I also smiled, when you talked about feeling old. This generation gap feels like a big one. I feel old here nearly every day. :)

Yeah... I confess that I limit my flags to obvious spam and copy-pasta, simply because I am still a pretty small fish. I might serve the community better by flagging some FUTURE potential problem than knocking 50 cents off someone's $80 post.

Thankfully we have 20-something and early 30s kids... they keep me from completely fossilizing...

Yup.

I've often wondered what it would be like if there were no 'middlemen' and deadwood in our economy. Only those who produced actual product/content/services...and those who consumed it.

No regulators, regulation enforcers, (their endless 'assistants'), circle jerk paper pushers, spammers, advertisers, preachers, journalists (of the gossip variety), evangelists, various flavors of activists , politicians or other locusts...

Imagine how rich we would all be without the wasters

I have wondered about that, too.

My dad was a corporate manager. I remember being a little baffled when he tried to explain "doing business" as he and his peers did it, at their level. I couldn't quite grasp the VALUE of a bunch of suited guys signing papers and smoking congratulatory cigars and getting mounds of money for that... while some guy busting his butt to actually MAKE whatever was in those contracts was struggling to feed his family...

I was a trucker as you know.
I was greatly annoyed that freight broker got as much as more money for the load that I carried for only making a two minute phone call...if that.
I HATED oversized loads from brokers.
They were always WRONG.

Yep. Sadly I remember the days of content spinners and I've reported posts to Steemcleaners that are clearly created with them @denmarkguy. I think they are pretty easy to spot as they make no sense.

Your analysis of the bot users was interesting and useful.

All in all this makes a depressing read. I probably should save such posts for the morning when, like you, I am at my best and, therefore, more resilient. 😁

P.S. This is in no way a criticism of your post which, as I said, I found to be both interesting and useful. 😍

No worries, Gillian!

I've been playing this online writing gig for 20-odd years, and so far Steemit has shown itself to be far more resilient than most of them... perhaps because the community members who care are empowered to take collective action, rather than "request" that some overworked centralized structure take action. And that's definitely an upside.

I sincerely didn't mean for this to sound depressing... but I also realize that "realistic" often comes across as "depressing!"

I sincerely didn't mean for this to sound depressing

Yeah. I know that @denmarkguy. You are not one who is prone to moaning. It was just the time of day and my mindset! 😁

Everything I write is mine, all mine, and I would never hire someone else to write for me. I just love writing too much for that. I wouldn't bother with a spinner since I could write 600 words in 15 minutes and post, if I wanted to.

Thanks for your informal survey of the bidbots. I was feeling guilty for using them. Maybe not so much anymore. I think I will go back to using the resteem, though. I want more exposure.

Everything I write is mine, too... and that's the point (I think!) here; I'm creating various types of content here because that's what I enjoy doing. People who use article spinners could care less about writing... their sole purpose is to use "whatever" methods they can to wring every possibly penny out of the system.

Amen, brother. Write on!

And because of that its hard for us new comers to grow oganically.. people aree joining steemit more and more everyday.. But the more crowded it will get the more it will be harder, chaotic and somewhat disgusting... i know im not experienced enough to say this but steemit should also be a learning experience for everyone included..

Definitely a learning experience... many of us had LOTS of posts in the beginning that made no more than a few cents.

I think part of the problem we have these days is that people come here with the expectation to earn income to replace their jobs. That's NOT how it works... maybe 100 people out of one million users can end up doing that.

Steemit is just a blog...well more than that in some cases but this isnt going to make anyone millionare in days...growing slowly with the community is a part of it too...its not some shabby wall st hedge farm where you put millions and earn millions.....

But if you also earned cents at the beginning than i think im on the right track😊😊

Article spinning is a bad habit because it is something like to stealing contant of some one . Steemit should take seriuos action about it.

Indeed it is. It's a bit like stealing a car, painting it a different color and trying to persuade everyone that it's a different car. It's not.

really agree with your opinion

So much love to share,.. and Yes,... with the one who appriciate it everytime

Good step. I appreciate your thoughts. Thanks for taking such kind of steps for the steemers.

wow nice picture..

very colorful pic

Good analogies. It's obviously hard to argue that spun content make valuable contributions in any way. I never really thought much about it, just skipping it and using as little time as possible on it, but I have to agree it becomes a problem when stuff like that gets rewarded with steem. Could "smart" (AI or some well developed algorithm) bots be a solution? I don't know. I guess they would most likely cause new problems bothering old-fashioned minds :P

excellent photography..

That is inherent issue with the intent. Endless access and people willing to take short cuts to make a quick buck. I always roll my eyes a little when someone does endless “top ten” of something even more so gaming. Shocking there list is same exact one that can found out on YouTube or a popular gaming site! Even more so when its years outdated and does not included more modern things that anyone doing research should have come across.

I think it already is an issue along with minimum effort in general. I see it quite often someone takes screenshots from the first hour of gameplay and then I would not be shocked if they refunded the game. The rest of their review with just screenshots of one hours’ worth of game play never feels quite on par with someone that played it. Almost like they got creative and spun other people’s work. Even more so when its put out daily or a few times a day to the point they either have a team working for them or nothing just not quite right.

Content takes time to produce and a fair amount of it if you are doing it by yourself. Unless you have become a bit of an expert in something and you no longer have that issue of needing to learn you are just drawing form years of past experiences.

i like your writing, thanks for sharing...

content regulation and placing requirements on how much you should write and the number of pictures you need to have before your post can be voted on.

This is just a suggestion and to someone it could be harsh, but the steemit your envision needs to have regulation, it then defeats the whole purpose of decentralised however people won’t change and greed will always be a factor when people are upvoting.

This site at times reminds of the time my kids scraped up two hundred fifty bucks for me to go see Jay Leno perform here for Gilda's Club at Laugh Fest. Most their years as teens needing a ride or a last minute run to rent a movie or video before midnight was always met with not until Leno's monologue is over. (before DVR's) What did I get for two hundred fifty dollars? To watch Leno on a wide screen television for the most part otherwise it entailed watching the side of his head while he told jokes, meanwhile all the rich folks in town who helped sponsor the event got tickets up front and center. He also told a lot of jokes I'd already heard on his late night show. A lot of that goes on here also, people waltz in and are granted huge delegations of power because they are perceived as having a large following that will follow them, to be honest most of those followers don't follow them here, maybe half a dozen, and that's being generous, meanwhile they makes hundreds of dollars posting stuff they've already used on whatever platform they were using before coming here. Most of any new material they use isn't worth the hundreds they are pulling out on them.

The way I feel about it between the above example and some of yours is that one of two things has to happen here for me to sit down and contribute my heart out is more fair compensation like they do others or I can compensate myself enough to make it worth it like so many do. Otherwise to get anywhere you have to cheat your way to the top like so many are doing or create your own fan club of sock puppets to up vote your stuff. The field is to crowded now, one could become a millionaire selling Amway faster then they could make a few thousand dollars on here.

I find it Interesting how you've categorized the people using the bid bots. I think the 4th group will eventually figure out that it's just their money they are basically churning over and over and hopefully, that group will diminish over time.

I do all of my own writing; it would not cross my mind to have someone else do the writing.

I may be a little older and cynical. I believe it is necessary to install locus proof netting (to the extent that you can) to platforms, organizations, (or whatever). Otherwise, there will always be people that try and take advantage by crossing ethical lines.

So in summary, I think the 4th group will diminish but I think Steemit could be playing a more active role in discouraging overuse of the bots by not allowing paid posts be part of the trending feed.

i really like the way you write and your "deeper" thoughts. that's one of the first things i noticed when i came to your blog and the reason i visit it frequently.

what an interesting moment to take a look at all of that. to me, that swarm of locusts is something i can't even be bothered to pay attention to (unless i'm intentionally doing so for curiosity's sake as you just did). it makes no sense to me to create an account like that just spins and spams as i value "value" too and want to build relationships around that.

perhaps many of these "creators" think this is "winning", when in reality they're likely doing no one (including themselves) any good. it's misguided.

I like the perspective you took analyzing the bid bots. We are too quick to label behavior wrong or bad.

"The other mindbloggling thing is that people never seem to learn from history. That is, they may learn and change their approaches to how things are done, but they tend to forget about Human Nature... which seems to be eternally unchangeable."
This has been a mantra of mine for a while now. "Thechnology changes, human behavior doesn't"
I think this means each generation has the same lessons to learn.

Thanks @denmarkguy. And YES I am familair with Spinning software. I have over a dozen blogs myself since 2008. And been active in several niches including weight loss and MMO.

I even looked at it myself years ago. But suffice to say I found it more tedious to do in trying to substitute words in the Spinners I tried. And it became too time consuming. So my brief journey into them stopped.

Of course now that I am a little older and wiser not sure why I even attempted that back then.

I think sometimes even decent people get lured into the idea of trying to produce Content on a grand level to score a few points with Adsense and other Ad Revenue. And think it's no biggie.

The fact is like you say like locusts wanting to Rape the land. It just hurts the whole "process". At the time you justify it by thinking it's no big deal because that itsy bitsy little corner of the internet an individual occupies, well won't hurt anyone with a little bit of "bending" of the Rules.

But over time and when enough people do it...well it does hurt the "process".

I just hope to Gawd people do not start writing articles with Spinners here at Steemit. And spin the same article with like 10 different versions.

But safe to say I believe human nature will prove otherwise. Probably is already happening :(

That's an interesting experiment you did. I also remember those "content farms" and the cracking-down on them. I remember, very well, those flashing signs on Main Street with empty stores, and it was aggravating as heck! You definitely won't find an apologist here, as I agree that things we create should have value or else they are useless. Bravo for your thoughts, and thank you for sharing them with #steemitbloggers 😊