I use the term communist to cover all aspects of authoritarian rule over freedom of choice - when involving the non aggression principal.
All authoritarian rule ultimately leads back to communism - just like the system we have it the west today.
Communism = the centralized means of production
Central banks are the centralized means of production when they control the amount of money in circulation, and the value of money..
All authoritarian rule, whatever the guise, ultimately leads back to communism sooner or later...
Communism is an authoritarian mindset, long before it is ever became an ideology, and waaaay before it was political movement...
I need to copy and paste this to a document...lol
Glad to hear you spell your thoughts out on that. You're very wrong, though it's good to see your train of thought.
Authoritarian rule is something separate from communism, which is one form of authoritarianism. That is a very well established fact.
It's clear however that in your opposition to communism you're willing to mismatch that.
Authoritarian rule necessities a continual move towards more and more centralization...follow that through, and you always have to end up with communism, at some point..
A fact? Says who?
That's a big claim... (and an appeal to authority, btw)
I posit that all authoritarian rule will eventually lead to communism...
I'm opposed to authoritarianism.
Authoritarianism leads to communism, ergo I'm opposed to communism, yes..
It's an appeal to common definitions, those things which you check in on the door of a debate. You posit, but don't show, which I guess is fine because I do not have the inclination to school you on basics, just to highlight your lack of them.
I have given you a model, you have given me no counter to disprove that model, just remarks.
Why doesn't my model make logical sense?
Can you give me any historical precedent that doesn't follow the path of further centralization by an authority?
(irrelevant of the label attached to the name of the said authority?)
I know of none, and I've been studying history for decades.
Or do you claim that all historical precedent has no bearing, and is irrelevant information on which to structure a model?
Hey! you TWO.
Even Krapital-ism & DEMOcrazy. Same SHIT - Different Seman-ticks.
¡True Education First! that's key!! "I am an old Venezuelan currently 'living in Vzla'"
.....you don't have to convince me! lolol
Haha. Yeah I know!! ;)
My response was more directed to @personz. ...Obvious-ly. 😈
So, why besmirch the name communism when you mean authoritarianism if not to avoid admitting you have been misinformed by folks you still recognize as authoritarians over your language?
If you mean authoritarianism, like you just said, then leave us nonmarxist commies out of it, eh?
Authoritarian control of production is socialism, einstein.
A centralized means of production is communism..
Words are fluid, and the 'old' definition (purist one?) of communism has changed - to mean precisely what I say above.
It is impossible (based on the definition I use and the commonly understood one), to not have an authoritarian system with communism.
Totally impossible.
Yes, and you think that by design to make it impossible for you to separate the two and become free.
Smdh.
Let go of your bars, its gonna be okay in a world where we all seek success for each of us.
Language evolves in society, it always has.
Gay used to mean 'happy' before 'homosexual' (for example).
I have another 2000 examples if you want them....
Language changes...
Yes, unfortunately i cant have gay days anymore.
And people wonder why i get so grumpy,...
Does that stop the concept from entering your mind?
When confronted with uncomfortable new data disrupting your beliefs, do you ignore the new data and stick with your more comfortable beliefs?
Alot of folks do,...
When confronted with uncomfortable new data disrupting your beliefs, do you ignore the new data and stick with your more comfortable beliefs?
If I did that, I'd still be a commie! lolol...
(seriously)
So, what made you jump ship?
I have no ideology.
Who's the prisoner, here...?
lol
Clearly, the one operating on an unrecognized, by him, ideology?
Your rejection of a new ideology decries your adherence to the old, even if the old one is a hodgepodge from many diverse ones, imo.
Capitalism isn't an ideology- it's system working before words were even invented....
it's not an imposed system created by people who think they are cleverer than the natural system of self betterment, through cooperation.
Capitalism existed way before money...(you don't think capital just means money?Surely not?)
I agree that absent the current fiat bankster bs the differences we hold will likely be academic, given crapitalism's headstart in the minds of the workers.
That academic difference will likely lead to a repeat when history gets around to its rhyming, though.