With the debates going on between ETH and EOS and the Bitcoin hardfork drama, now seems like a good time to think about how well Steemit's Delegated Proof of Stake governance system works as far as user participation.
@eeks asked an interesting question earlier today:
What % of Steem holders, by number, have ever voted for a witness?
I had to find an answer.
If you're not sure what a witness vote is, or why it's important, please see this post from a couple months ago: Steemit is Free, But Your Witness Vote Determines its Future.
I couldn't wait to finish work today, read to the kids, and get them in bed so I could start hacking on this question. I decided to only include accounts which have been active (meaning they published at least one comment or post). I'm also just looking at witness votes as of today, not taking into account if someone once voted for a witness but isn't anymore.
Based on the code I came up with to analyze the blockchain, here are the answers I got:
Inactive Accounts: 178,339
Active Accounts with a Voting Proxy: 652
Active Accounts with at Least One Witness Vote: 7,233
Active Accounts with No Witness Votes: 105,076
So there you have it. Out of over 100k active accounts, only around 8k are currently voting for a witness.
We Have 7.5% Witness Voting Engagement.
That's how much participation this governance system of DPOS truly has as of today, July 31st, 2017. I think it could be be better, but I also think it's the best system for blockchain governance yet created. You can't vote out a massive POW mining farm, but here we can vote out witnesses. I just put this code together this afternoon, so it's possible I messed something up. If you see something wrong or you'd like to see the code, please let me know in the comments.
Have You Voted for a Witness?
If you haven't voted yet, please consider setting @lukestokes as your proxy voter. Otherwise, go vote for some Steemit Witnesses you've interacted with and respect to do what's in the best interest of the network. I hope that includes my witness, @lukestokes.mhth.
Also, as an added bonus, here are the top 100 accounts by VESTed shares who are currently not voting for any witnesses and don't have a proxy set. If you know any of them, maybe ask nicely if they might consider sending a vote my way. :)
I've excluded 12 accounts that I think belong to Steemit employees. Seems to me it's a good thing for them not to be involved in the governance decisions of the Steem blockchain considering they control the Steemit account.
| Account | Vests | |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | ranchorelaxo | 2673733493 |
| 2 | proskynneo | 2373715060 |
| 3 | recursive | 825386926 |
| 4 | newsflash | 727275397 |
| 5 | creator | 476774626 |
| 6 | skan | 434185626 |
| 7 | livingfree | 364402390 |
| 8 | virus707 | 272160060 |
| 9 | sigizzang | 257347550 |
| 10 | damarth | 236011480 |
| 11 | extrospect | 227949287 |
| 12 | otisbrown | 224641357 |
| 13 | ctrl-alt-nwo | 217232009 |
| 14 | modprobe | 216413276 |
| 15 | famunger | 209530527 |
| 16 | trevonjb | 203764309 |
| 17 | bayrene | 187111227 |
| 18 | faddy | 180946157 |
| 19 | cylonmaker2053 | 178188460 |
| 20 | surfyogi | 169154402 |
| 21 | topinvestor2021 | 158887912 |
| 22 | ramires | 158217200 |
| 23 | bramd | 155944655 |
| 24 | wans | 140185396 |
| 25 | toxic | 135771556 |
| 26 | dimimp | 130551482 |
| 27 | urbanoid | 125276495 |
| 28 | musicholic | 120968261 |
| 29 | enable | 115506130 |
| 30 | sandrino | 109995641 |
| 31 | candyman | 108080835 |
| 32 | peacephilpanda | 106190123 |
| 33 | greatpath | 100705804 |
| 34 | crypto-p | 99407451 |
| 35 | underdog600 | 98915172 |
| 36 | zurvanic | 98820346 |
| 37 | noaommerrr | 97887374 |
| 38 | joeyd | 96498688 |
| 39 | mrwalt | 95212368 |
| 40 | rhanna10km | 94348959 |
| 41 | eric818 | 94086523 |
| 42 | steemitblog | 93540695 |
| 43 | speda | 90728353 |
| 44 | sjmstem | 89079944 |
| 45 | skt | 84622347 |
| 46 | kimjungmin | 83171375 |
| 47 | timotirado | 80585337 |
| 48 | kb720k | 78468205 |
| 49 | alex | 75824112 |
| 50 | leon-fu | 73410353 |
| 51 | somebody | 69973768 |
| 52 | randomthoughts | 68367812 |
| 53 | hedge-x | 68211433 |
| 54 | mynewsteemit | 67980659 |
| 55 | ugos | 67445779 |
| 56 | spectral | 64254506 |
| 57 | triplej | 63296570 |
| 58 | originate | 62083308 |
| 59 | sizzlingmonkeys | 62008917 |
| 60 | theoretical | 61258065 |
| 61 | cornerstone | 58810529 |
| 62 | cjh | 58621087 |
| 63 | joele | 58384109 |
| 64 | wmougayar | 55544517 |
| 65 | ramblin-bob | 55415633 |
| 66 | davidp | 54406609 |
| 67 | a48 | 53893030 |
| 68 | benhoneywell | 53846674 |
| 69 | megaspore | 53320915 |
| 70 | jacobcards | 52763377 |
| 71 | kwak | 52668771 |
| 72 | steemydino | 52311525 |
| 73 | danlupi | 51918013 |
| 74 | awgbibb | 51830993 |
| 75 | libertyteeth | 51822920 |
| 76 | creadordelfuturo | 50408528 |
| 77 | xiaohui | 48138183 |
| 78 | dana-edwards | 46686840 |
| 79 | neilstrauss | 46301182 |
| 80 | grognak | 45315199 |
| 81 | morten | 44576706 |
| 82 | joeblack1 | 44220634 |
| 83 | alexbeyman | 43112913 |
| 84 | domino | 42928395 |
| 85 | bitacer | 41605383 |
| 86 | goldmatters | 41550124 |
| 87 | corbettreport | 41211236 |
| 88 | mining4bacon | 41046950 |
| 89 | felix.mg1 | 40927773 |
| 90 | clarkgold | 40915894 |
| 91 | doudou252666 | 40258372 |
| 92 | sword | 40097159 |
| 93 | bleepcoin | 39800446 |
| 94 | sephiroth | 39683922 |
| 95 | rl90 | 39479421 |
| 96 | kurtcorthout | 39464479 |
| 97 | samu-paha | 39274707 |
| 98 | margarita-chavez | 38608602 |
| 99 | katecloud | 37978769 |
| 100 | abuzarkalam | 37964202 |
If people find this useful, I may make it a regular weekly or monthly report to remind everyone to vote for witnesses and further distribute the governance process here on Steemit. Let me know what you think in the comments.
I ran a version of the report again this morning but did not include the requirement for a single post. Here are the results:
Total accounts: 291,340
Accounts with a proxy: 3,531
Accounts with a witness vote: 7,870
Accounts with no witness vote: 279,899
That's not surprising to me that there are bot accounts with no posts which have proxies set. What is surprising is I lost 40 accounts somewhere as the math doesn't perfectly add up. :)
Begin time: 2017-08-01T13:59:50+00:00
End time: 2017-08-01T14:39:31+00:00
The report takes about 40 minutes to run, and that's with the full list of accounts already cached. If I'm going to run this weekly (which I think I am), I'll probably set it up on a server to automate parts of it. I also want to play around with some charts showing SP distribution and such. I'm also curious to know how many accounts are voting per witness in the top 20 and 50 along with the SP distribution of those voters. Super interesting stuff here. I love the blockchain! :)
You can reduce that by 1, so now 279,898 accounts with no witness vote.
:)
decided that today was a good day to pick some more witness to vote.
had only around 4 votes.
just added @lukestokes.mhth , @ausbitbank and @jerrybanfield
use the power wisely dear friends
May the green monster be with you.
Lucas
Malabarize-se
Good statistics here @lukestokes. I might have to add you to my votes. In a witness too and been helping to host additional servers during these issues we've been having. Working on setting up a full node as we speak actually.
Sucks to have so many abstaining from voting just because they don't understand it.
I've been seeing the work you're putting in over on the steemit chat witness channel. Thank you!
I have voted for witnesses and have 18 witness votes remaining, but I do not just want to randomly vote for people just to use up my votes. I saw that you can have someone more knowledgeable vote for you, but it seems it would erase all your previous votes. Is there a way to assign my last 18 votes by proxy without erasing the votes I have already submitted?
I have a few suggestions for witnesses......
@timcliff
@yunkzilla
@drakos
@clayop
@gtg
well, more if you're interested...
Thank you so much. I've been following you since I joined, and have high confidence in your recommendations.
there are more...
Great! I have 10 more votes, would you be able to give 10 more recommendations?
@roelandp
@aggroed
@ausbitbank
@abit
@good-karma
@pharesim
@roelandp
@pfunk
@klye
@roadscape
@teamsteem
@blueorgy
Thank You for recommending me 🤗 @stellabelle
I finally voted and have now used all my witness votes. Thanks for taking the time to help me.
You can also set someone up as your proxy, if you like.
Ah, but what is Yunk, anyway? Hehehe. As soon as you define it, the magic is gone. :)
Good list.
I think it would be really helpful if a post like this included how exactly to go about voting for a witness.
Hello Scott. I did include it, but I made the text small. Maybe I should have made it big instead! Haha.
Voting for a Witness
I agree, I didn't even know what a witness was. Still not sure that I do. Is it like a bitcoin node?
It's like the Steem equivalent of a Bitcoin miner.
Nice Comment!
It is like a bitcoin pool that gets to "mine" more blocks, process transactions and get paid for it with newly created tokens.
Unfortunately, no. Using a proxy is an all or nothing approach. If you're voting, cool! No need for a proxy voter, in that case.
Thank you for the reply; much appreciated!
So if i daily vote i should not use proxy? That, when i would sorted out and know to do it :-)
There's a difference between voting on posts and voting for witnesses. One is separate from the other. You can either vote for witnesses directly or you can select a proxy which your account will mirror and vote as they vote.
So, i voted for a witness (@teamsteem) and now you are the second one in https://steemit.com/~witnesses
Is that supposed to be enough?
I also upvote for @steemitboard when i see it in peoples comments (also followed you all).
Upvoting a comment or post is different than giving a witness vote. See the article I link to in the original post for more information. You can vote for up to 30 witnesses, if you like. It's up to you.
thanks a lot
@lukestokes, please allow me to translate your content to Chinese in order to spread more to the community who did not fluent in english!
If you like my action please upvote me!
My post link here : https://steemit.com/cn/@incrediblesnow/steemit
Go for it! If you could also link to this post in your translated post, I would appreciate it.
Yes sir, I have mentioned my content was translated from your post in my starting and I also post the link that link to your post! Thanks for allowing me to do so!
Great investigation @lukestokes!
I had not thought it would be as bad as this! Having a 7.5% share of users voting for at least one witness and the rest nothing is really really bad. If all the small guys and gals bundled together it would make a huge dent in the board of witnesses.
I'm an active Witness and are also a very strong writer about how important it is to make a vote. I write constantly about the issues about dead witnesses as well as inactive witnesses.
I recently started up my project "Project Minnow Witness" to let everyone that wishes to use me as a Proxy for voting on the new and upcoming witnesses that still does a very good job. My criteria may be strict, but they are just.
Some posts I've been writing about the situation of witnesses in the past:
Excellent work, thank you for spreading the word! I've noticed you've been doing some great stuff, and I love that you're so helpful for those getting into Gridcoin. I may have to change something up in my voting to find a spot for you! :)
I do what I can with the shares I got :)
Any support is greatly appreciated, but fully voluntary. I would never beg for votes. If you or anyone finds what I do good, then I'm happy. A vote is great support for me and helps me do even more good work however (^.^)
That's the exact reason I'll be looking for a spot for you. Begging for votes means you're not doing enough to get noticed on your own, IMO.
Thanks for your efforts @sc-steemit.
1- I have voted for as a witness.
2- Do you have a post about active witnesses that are not in top 50?
The witnesses I mention at the bottom of this is the ones I've picked as good active witnesses.
https://steemit.com/minnowwitness/@sc-steemit/starting-up-project-minnow-witness-current-report-end-of-july
I regard a good active witness a person that looks after and takes care of the technical things of having to make sure it runs well and gets updated. I'm not basing them on how many articles they do, what side projects they do or how many followers they have.
Thanks. I will check them out.
I agree, but I would like it if the witness has a good relationship with the community too. It is especially important that he/she listens to the needs and suggestions they have.
Naturally is having an ear to the ground ans listening in on what the community speaks and buzzes about.
This is what I expect if a minnow witness. A fulltime top 25 witness i expect a but more on though 😋
Low voting percentage is lower than I would have guessed.
But stepping back from a practical perspective - do we have any evidence that lack of voting is in any way corrupting or impacting the witness pool?
Are there known bad actors that we should care about trying to get out?
How would we find about known bad actors that need to be out?
I vote when I see someone making specially good efforts to try to advance the best interests of the community.
So I'll go and vote for @lukestokes
But not sure how it really matters or what impact my vote will have.
Just doing it to be a "good citizen"
STEEM On!!
DaveB
Thanks David. At the moment, when the community is (somewhat) in agreement about things, it's not really a big deal. Even then, what really matters is how the accounts with the most Steem Power vote. When it comes to blockchain governance, having it built in is really nice. Other cryptocurrencies have run into big problems with miners battling users battling other corporate interests. It can get nasty. One of the things I love about DPOS (Delegated Proof of Stake, the system Steem uses, unlike POW-proof of work) is that we have this voting system built in. If there was a conflict, however, we'd need to make sure we actually use it. There have been conflicts before. One hardfork proposted by Steemit, Inc as an example, never went live. The witnesses rejected it.
So yeah, it's important and can be difficult to keep up with. Thanks for being a good citizen. :)
Wow not that many people voting for witnesses then.
Thanks for the information and great to see a photo of you. You can tell a lot by seeing someone's eyes! You have integrity! & also my 27th vote!!
I think the Steemit is very confusing for many people and must be even harder if English isn't your 1st language.
With all those inactive accounts, do they stay open indefinitely? I get the absolute basics about the blockchain only, so isn't having lots of inactive accounts kind of wasting space or blocking it up?
I love that you 'want to help create a world we all want to live in', me too. What I loved when I was finding out about steemit was that like minded people could connect and do good in the world. It seems very spread out though and many whose focus is just to make money!
Thanks for all your hard work.
Thank you for your support!
Yes, Steemit is a bit confusing and the learning curve is steep, but I think it's worth it. As for inactive accounts, it's similar to generating bitcoin addresses. They don't really take up space, they just exist. Now useless spam on the network... now that's a different story.
Thank you for your encouragement. :)
You're welcome!
Thanks for your reply and answer. May the useless spam be reduced!
Blessings! :)
I missed this post when I was out camping.
I think that it is a bit overwhelming for new members. Unless you read the white pages there isn't a lot that directs you to vote for a witness.
I am still creating my criteria and am planning a post on how I choose. I am enjoying reading all the recommendations for witnesses by others on this post.
It is something very unique to steemit and users of other social media apps will require education if we expect them to assign a proxy or vote for themselves.
On a positive note, it is probably a good thing that users are not just throwing their votes out blindly to witnesses that they know nothing about or even what their role is. It would be interesting to know more details on the 8k members who have voted compared to the 105k who haven't (number of posts, date joined, SP, ect)
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Yeah, I do plan to break it down much further. I just need to find the time to mess with the code. Also, it takes a long time to run (an hour or so depending on how I slice the data), so I'll have to think through how I want to do it. These things go in sprints. I get all fired up and work for hours without sleep, and then I let it sit for a bit and come back to it later. Maybe tomorrow I'll hack some more. :)
Excellent Post, I believe in the very near future there will be a lot more witness voting activity. I think in the past month or so we've seen it increase quite a bit. The more competition for witnesses the better, it will drive witnesses to over perform like @lukestokes 😉. After you're done voting for him if you happen to have a second vote readily available I'm here 😎 To occupy that.
Setting a voting proxy is also a great way to start if you haven't voted before. Sadly Luke doesn't vote me as witness 😛 Awww but before you get all upset lol his current list of witness votes are all incredible witnesses and steemians in general, so it'd be tough to get on that list, to say the least!
Get To Voting People!
Let's turn that 7% into 17% by nights end!
Let's make it happen! :)
I had used all my votes previously but I recently removed them all. I'm now only going to vote for witnesses that advocate for a far more fair distribution of power and an increase in the number of witnesses as the wealthy have far too much power on this site. So far, I haven't found anyone worthy of voting for.
How do you define power? Do you mean decisions about code changes and hard forks? Do you mean Steem Power? If SP, what do you suggest? Should we be able to take SP from some accounts and give it to others or should we just change how new Steem Power is created to favor small accounts? If we favor small accounts, what's to prevent Sybil Attacks where one person can create a bunch of small accounts and take more of the reward pool than they should (especially with self-upvoting)? We've already seen this abuse with the flattened reward curve.
Do you mean the top 20 should be increased? If so, why? The role they serve is to secure the blockchain and create new blocks. Adding more is not needed for the protocol to function any better. Do you suggest the reward given to the top witnesses should be decreased? If so, some projects they fund might lose funding as it will become to expensive to maintain full API nodes and such. I'm not saying this isn't a bad idea, and maybe the rewards should decrease, I just want to make sure we consider the risks. If few people want to be full-time witnesses (it is a 24-hour a day on call job), then the entire Steem platform could have some systemic risks and instability.
Again, what do you mean by power? Do you mean in terms of flagging or determining who gets rewards and who doesn't because of their Steem Power votes on posts?
I don't think the world will ever be full egalitarian. Every attempt at it that I've seen throughout history has lead to violence and even poverty. Using stores of value as a way to influence systems is a much better approach than violence, IMO. It's also open to anyone who is willing to dedicate themselves to earning wealth. I see a dollar bill as a certificate of appreciation (to quote Rabbi Daniel Lapin) because you can only get one if you provide value to someone else.
At least, that's how it's supposed to work. Fiat currency controlled by central bankers and governments kind of screws that up.
thank you for the information. I only registered yesterday but I had no idea about witnesses at all. But that is why I came here, to learn. I made you my proxy for the time being. Please don't let me down I didn't vote for one of the top people because I don't want steem to be ruled by a few powerful people that decide to make this their cash cow. Thanks again.
You're welcome and thanks for trusting me with your proxy vote. I try to vote for those who think long-term and have the best interests of the entire network in mind. I'm not perfect, but I do the best I can with the information I have.
It will be interesting to see if the stats have changed following your post here!?
Based on the interest and the benefit it can give to the community, I think I'll turn this into a regular weekly report and start tweaking it a bit to show some other interesting stats as far as steem power distribution in the votes.
Very astounding chart. You'd think that list of people making money would at least vote. I have to check whether I've voted for you yet. I will check in a few minutes. I have three votes left!
Thanks for considering me! :)
I voted for @sc-steemit as a witness then quickly realised it would be a full time job trying to figure out who to vote/un-vote as witnesses so I give @sc-steemit my proxy vote seen as they do a lot of research on who the best witnesses are.
Thank you for your support @bullskark!
I'm writing much about the need to vote for witnesses and to make sure they are doing a good job. As well as making sure they are not inactive so you're not waiting your vote for something that doesn't do anything.
I've started up a project to support new and upcoming witnesses with Project Minnow Witness.
Starting up "Project Minnow Witness"; Current Report End of July
I voted for you, timcliff, and gtg. Thanks for being witnesses.
Thank you!
Glad you posted this. I had already voted and thought I had assigned a proxy, which I hadn't. Fixed that. Keep up the great work!
Thank you! That's interesting, because I see the unvote and the proxy to @lukestokes.mhth (which I have proxied to @lukestokes). Since @lukestokes also votes for @lukestokes.mhth as a witness then I guess that should work and I should still have your vote. At least, I hope I do. :)
Hey @lukestokes just voted for you. I would have done it sooner had I known you were there. I need to pay closer attention. Thanks for all you do. I definitely get good vibes from everything I have seen you post here and on Telegram.
Thanks so much! I really appreciate your vote.
My pleasure!
Great post... I'm not surprised by the numbers at all.
However, does that mean only only 7.5% of all users here care how the platform gets powered, or have bothered to take the time to learn about it?
Probably yes... and that's not the fault of the users really.
If you came over from Facebook, Twitter, or Reddit, generally a user is just that... someone who uses a system. Users are never in charge of finding out how things work in the backend, nor voting for how the system is run.
So if we're going to up that 7.5% number, we have a lot of work to do..
There could also be a benefit (maybe a penalty) for not voting a witness. Maybe your earned reward is less by 2% if you don't vote for a witness, which goes to a collaborative marketing fund.
Or, you gain an extra 2% in rewards, for voting for a witness.
Instead of a moral or social reason to vote for a witness... if there are monetary advantages or disadvantages, we could expect that 7.5% to grow to at least double that, maybe even triple that (which would be really good for the system).
Interesting idea. I'm cautious about using extrinsic motivators such as financial rewards. Hopefully we can take the education route instead and people will be intrinsically motivated to vote. Also, if financial rewards are involved we might see more vote buying which probably isn't the best way to determine who the best witnesses are.
I agree, it takes work to figure out who to vote for. But it's also a good thing to do to protect your account and investment.
1- Thank you @lukestokes. This was very useful. Please, post it regularly and improve it along the way. The more indicators we have about the status of steem, the better.
2- Can you please also find out the % by steem power ? @dan has argued that the % would be higher.
3- The % of voting users are worrying. It seems that Vitalik has a valid point.
4- Another worrying number is the number of inactive users. More details are needed here?
5- I have discovered the importance of voting about a month ago, thanks to @timcliff. I have been watching witnesses since then and voting.
6- I have been following you. I like your posts, but I did not know you were a witness. I will check your activity as a witness. If I see that you are as good a witness as you are a blogger, I will vote for you.
Great ideas, thank you!
I always wanted to know that information. What would be even more interesting is the % of stake that is voting. I'm not sure how it could be calculated. I guess all MV supporting witness should be added...
I'll be playing around with the numbers more over time to include some VEST-based evaluations.
Resteemed. Thank you for posts like these. This is the kind of stuff I am not cut out to do on the platform, and I really appreciate the service to the platform, and the rigor that went into digging up and polishing this valuable nug of info. Cheers!
Thank you!
Awesome post! I'm actually a little bit surprised by the small amount of participation when it comes to voting on Witnesses. It's a very important part of the SteemIt experience, as far as I'm concerned. Maybe we all need to do a better job of raising awareness on this issue. I figured Steemians were more civic-minded people - but I guess not?
Upvoted and Resteemed.
It's an educational challenge, I think. Many have no idea what witnesses are or what they do. I linked to my post explaining it, but I think many missed that link since I put it in small text. So yeah, we've got our work cut out for us!
"Out of over 100k active accounts, only around 8k are currently voting for a witness."
Can you calculate how much Steem Power is hold by these two parties? Will the ratio be same but switched? If yes, the 100k really don't need to bother to hassle with their passwords etc.
I'll be making improvements to the report in future versions which I hope will include SP distribution data and maybe even some graphs. Follow for updates. :)
Great, it's important to have data available on these things so a big thank you!
Yeah a lot of people don't know what witnesses are and are confused about the voting. Don't worry I have already voted for you!
I agree, many don't know what it is or why they should care. I'll keep sharing this post until more understand! :)
Great idea! Keep sharing and promoting!
Only 7.5% witness voting engagement! Very small number.
It is, but there's little education out there for new users as to what witnesses are or do, so most probably don't know anything about it. They just create an account, post some stuff, and never worry about anything else.
I have voted for you can voted my comment please. Thank you dear in advence.
Sorry, I don't trade votes. I upvote comments which I feel provide value.
Nice, I've always wondered. I also wonder how much vesting power is voting compared to the vesting power not voting (excluding steemit accounts).. how much stake does that 7.5% hold. Thanks for the stats. Puts it into perspective!
That's a good question. It might be interesting to see how much influence the "non-voters" have compared to those who have already voted. Might be a good thing to add to a future update of this report code. :)
Thank you, I did not even know about voting till now. Vote cast for you.
Excellent! I'm glad I could help send some useful information your way.
@lukestokes, I understand the need to vote for witnesses. Without strong leadership it is hard to keep the Steemit movement going.
However, I do not feel that posts from witnesses alway give me a great idea of what issues are most important to those people.
Do you have any suggestions or resources on how to find out the issues that witnesses care about most?
That's a really great question and unfortunately it's not so easy to answer. It took me a while to get to know people on Steemit and in the chat and understand where they are coming from. Right now, other than just spending time building relationships, one of the best ways is to follow @timcliff and keep and eye for his weekly Witness Update report.
I voted :)
Thanks :)
I would consider it normal that an account with less than, let's say, 100 posts would not have voted for any witness yet. So I think 7.5% of engagement is a good result to a pessimistic inquiry.
Here you go! It's almost 50% participation when looked at this way:
Total accounts: 291340
Inactive Accounts: 278390
Accounts with a Proxy: 260
Accounts with a witness vote: 4084
Accounts with no witness vote: 8466
Great news!
That's a good way to look at it. You got me curious... I'm running it again with a cut off of > 100 posts, just to see how the numbers might change. I think 100 posts is quite a bit, but I guess that would be a fully active account (or at least one that was active at some point in the last year or so).
I don worry about how many people voted for witnesses.
I DO WORRY we have 2/3 inactive accounts. So, when I see a statistic about steemit has 300+k users, I would divide this numbers on 3
Yeah, there are a lot of bot accounts and early miner accounts that have never posted. That's something I've always kept in mind since day 1.
I was literally just thinking this after reading Vitaliks last post, can I delegate my witness votes like people delegate steam. Low and behold the very first post on the top of my homepage is this. I would be delighted to deligate my witness votes to you luke :)
Vitaliks reply to dan -
Nice! And thanks for that link, I hadn't read that reply. Good stuff.
Now if you could tell me how to delegate my witness votes..I could always check myself but u gotta earn it lol
(I'm just lazy)
No problem. :)
Just got to https://steemit.com/~witnesses (it's in the menu on the far right) and use this input box:
Thanks bud, done and dusted.
Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I don't spend much time on steemit but really like the platform and want to participate in a constructive way.
Excellent!
Please follow Upvote or promote my account in this steemit, i really need it. Hopefully not ignored. Thanks , hope you easy sustenance
i upvote u and follow u also
You have a 12 reputation right now. That might be because you're asking people to give you something just because. That's like spam. Hopefully this post will help you change your tactics.
thanks for reminding. Have made you my proxy. Is that ok with you?
For sure! Thank you.
This is sad.
It's an opportunity for more education.
I vote for a couple, but I need to use more votes
Very informative stuff , need sreemers to educate about it , let me resteem it
I will research more about this! Thanks for the info
Hey @lukestokes, how do I set up a proxy and how does it function? I'm new to steemit and I've voted for around 20 Witnesses but I don't know how it really works
If you voted for witnesses already, you don't need to set a proxy. You can find out more in this post I linked to (using small text) in the OP.
Ok thanks for that and I'll go vote for you shortly, got quiet busy after I commented. Cheers
I tried to vote for you it said account doesn't exist, my bad I read in a hurry. I like giving a vote to those who really make a difference and are always advising about something on Steemit which we don't know.... I speak as a newbie whose here for the long run and will continue investigating whatever I get on Steemit. Cheers for the great intuitive posts
The mistake I did is I only put @lukestokes didn't put the full name as said on your wall 👉 @lukestokes.mhth . Check in few minutes it will be done. Sorry for the many replies
No worries, glad you got it figured. Thank you for your vote!
Always welcome mate 👍
im not getting it... i think i need someone who can explain it to me in a simplier words...so i can help on whatever its purpose... i think its for the better and for the future of steem.... so we should help each other....
You may have missed it, but this post I linked to should help explain what witnesses do.
I never got votes there, so I do not take part, I just do not want to give free votes...
vote this vote that ... but me..who give me vote. I hope you all have fun.
That seems rather selfish when it is the witnesses that help make Steem functional at all. And we pay out of pocket to run the servers that you benefit from.
It isn't always about "who will vote for me??". Voting for a witness doesn't remove anything from you but a witness vote slot. You are essentially just saying "I don't know much about it so I am going to just let the founders and IN crowd maintain control"
It takes users like you and all these non voters to make a difference.
I'm a witness and your sentiment about it makes me a little disappointed. But to each their own I imagine.
Ah :)) But did you think why I make this comment here :)) I know how this works... I like steemit. :)))
How is your day ? It is very windy today, and in the clouds, there is little sun.
I always encourage people to vote but if they are not sure I encourage them to make me a proxy.
Sounds reasonable. :)
Posts that attract friends from me @abupasi.alachy hopefully we become best friends
I think that this is a very interesting kind of problem. I think a lot of those active accounts choose not to vote for witness for a purpose. I think that if witnesses want more votes, they'll need to find a way to engage those users and earn those votes.
Personally, I only upvote for a handful of witnesses and that's because they've earned my vote on a personal level. @someguy123, @ausbitbank, @aggrooed, @teamsteem, @klye, I've talked to these people personally, and have worked with them personally. So when a witness gets a vote from me, that's because they've done something in my eyes that deemed them vote worthy, or if I feel that they really are doing something good for the community.
That's how I vote for witnesses anyway. But I'm just a tiny minnow.
I think that's a great approach! Thanks for voting.
I do voting for witness, but i dont know what is the meaning, ;)
Please see this post I linked to for more information.
Nice post
Thank you for your attention regarding this. Keep up the great work.
You're welcome, and I will!