I would actually go even farther than the white paper in that regard and posit that, except for the theoretical empty post, there is really no such thing as abuse per se.
All that is necessary is to ensure that abuse isn’t so rampant that it undermines the incentive to do real work
That said, that much -- making sure that the abuse doesn't become so rampant as to undermine the inentive to do real work, is necessary. IMO, that cannot be accomplished with out downvoting. Because it is in the nature of enterprises like these that they will become as rampant as they are permitted to become.
Steemvoter is a great example of this (and i suspect you might be the person that responded to me in that thread). First they were free. Then they wanted a vote every day. Then they wanted to run a protection service that allows them to cast a second vote every day. Then they wanted to ask their users to let them downvote people who criticise them.
The same was true of steem sports. They had a post that got paid at the top of trending every day, and everyone was cool with it,. Then it was 2 posts. Then it was 4. Then it was 4 and a steemgames post.
At some point, someone or some group of people has to step in and say "this is too much"... because for the most part, enterprises will not do this themselves.
It wouldn't be possible, or desirable, to wipe out K. brevis completely either... just to prevent its unconstrained growth so that it didnot become rampant.
I didn't see this until a couple of hours ago, had a busy day yesterday and after posting fell asleep within minutes, then I checked your page and resteemed for the same reason as @gtg, once again it was only at a buck or so...the coincidence of it shooting up after I resteem is pretty funny. I still have to go through it and check out your curation trail, then talk to beanz and klye and everyone else who was gung ho the other day. Hopefully it's not the jump up and down until a solution is proposed than run and hide syndrome I've seen so often in the past. I guess we'll see.
wow did that seriously happen again.... lol...
I really don't care very much about the money, I am way more concerned with having good discussion (and in that sense i am very happy with the way the whole series turned out).
I just registered at streemian...you're hovo, right?
yep... im going to put up specifics about what im going to be voitng on tonight sometime.
Do you also have a curation trail for upvoting? Ha, it occurs to me that while I do a great deal of manual upvoting it might not compete with a trail and I would not want my downvotes to be more prominent. It goes against my nature as it is, but I trust you and I see the need for it, a checks and balances necessity for the success of steemit. I'm waiting to hear from @klye who just dropped his current autovoting 'provider' and is looking into steemtrail. I like the way he goes about it, checking in on the people he votes for on a consistent basis...plus he had the good sense to add myself and @therealpaul LOL.
I personally don't have the chance to vote on enough stuff to make it worth it to follow me.
If i had to reccomend someone on streemian, it would be @anyx
Nesting is a serious pain in the ass sometimes :) Thanks, I'll look into it :)
I intend to be part of your curation trail, since hovo popped up when I went through all of the steps after clicking on your link I'm assuming that's you, but I'm not jumping on until you confirm that, lol. Right now my votes don't count for a whole lot, but that might change in the near future. My husband is seriously considering transferring a good portion of his bit coins into steem for my account :)
yeah, i should have specified. I am using a special account because this is going to be not part of my regular voting (though ill be following too)
That would be wonderful!! We could really use more positive influencers like you. Bad actors will remain until the good actors actively outweigh them.
Sounds good.