I am enjoying this thread! It is an opportunity for people to exchange opinions.

Unfortunately, it seems some are having difficulty expressing their thoughts in a constructive manner. Shame really, as belligerence detracts from the credibility of what could be interesting opinions and perspectives. I have an open mind. I am willing to listen and evaluate, without the prejudgment that I must be right. In fact, I am more than willing to admit I am wrong, when presented with a clear argument supported by substantive facts that have no counter.

I would argue, passions are running high for some and there is a lack of self control. Everyone is different. But let me state for the record, you won't hear me being belligerent, talking foul, or outright attempting to attack someone as a form or argument (Ad hominem). Just not productive. Truth and insight is a far better outcome.

For the record, I think everyone should have an opinion and at their discretion , voice it in a peaceful way. This is the nature of the 1st amendment (which I suppose is only relevant if you believe in the validity of the U.S. Government) and I believe everyone should take advantage of this right. So please, continue the conversation. I am interested in the logic you are working so hard to express. I can filter out you insults. Maybe there is something to learn.