Hello Vietnamese community!
I saw many Vietnamese Steemians are unhappy because even they send lots of money to bid bots, they got less than what they expect. In this post I will show you a method to learn which bot is good and which bot is bad.
https://ipfs.busy.org/ipfs/QmWHKH2wMP8UC2JnYbLWoBEusSy1KPLZG11epEMrwPrgjz
Firstly I want to say that bots are programmed for sending upvotes. But some of them are programmed to make creator of bot has more profit each round instead of sending profits to users. I think it's so normal because there are still lots of people who use those bots. So if you put yourself in bot owner's shoes, you can understand why they do it.
And there are some bots which are so popular. Unfortunately some people are sending more than 50 SBD to these bots in one round and they're sending in last minute, so it makes other people have less profit.
Now I want to talk about my method. When you go to steembottracker website, you should click on "actions" button right next to name of bot that you want to use. And click on "Details" on drop down menu.
You will see a window like this:
https://ipfs.busy.org/ipfs/QmXts5H1cgPSxbRdaCkozPmiAjsX4xbV3PvTVmyKAqHqfA
There are 2 tabs as you can see on photo. Click on "last round" tab.
My method: You should check how much other people earn in last round. This method works best with the rounds which bot gave a good ROI. Because if a bot shows good ROI but gives less upvote, it means they're not good.
So you should click on memo link of people who sent money to bot in last round. Then change steemit.com link to busy.org. So you can see value of upvote of bot in last round.
When you click upvote symbol in a post, you can see the list same as this photo:
https://ipfs.busy.org/ipfs/QmTwk4nhrLoLMo8Q1jngqoNMQPjAu4iorvyyr7aDoNVEFf
If someone sent 3 SBD to a bot and if he/she get 5 dollars worth upvote when bot shows 10% ROI, it's not good bot.
But if someone sent 3 SBD to a bot and if he/she get 6 dollars worth upvote when bot show 0% ROI, it's good bot, so you can keep using it.
That's how my method works, it's logical so you should use your logic to understand if they gave good upvotes or not. After you check some of them, you can make a black list of bots that you shouldn't use. So even if they show 10% ROI, you don't send money to them and you don't lose any money.
https://gateway.ipfs.io/ipfs/QmNwq2jxG5Up6XHT2mJKCQxuXNgpCG9mZsKhfksEBMiiRh
You don't have to try all bots to learn if a bot is good or not. All you have to do is looking at other people's bids and results.
https://gateway.ipfs.io/ipfs/QmNwq2jxG5Up6XHT2mJKCQxuXNgpCG9mZsKhfksEBMiiRh
https://gateway.ipfs.io/ipfs/QmTipxjfGgH8z1crpcCLFt4B35FWumnxK3WgWck68Gqvi5
There is another way to see upvote bots is an advertising system. In other social platform, if you want visibility for your posts, you would promote them by buying ads. Here, you would buy votes from the bots to shoot you up into the Trending page. But in order to get the full benefit of it, you would need to write quality content which once in the Trending page would be noticed by more people and hopefully more influential people. The extra visibility and upvote that results of it would be what bring you profit, not the bot's upvote itself.
Obviously, if you can get profit from the bot upvote then it's even better.
Actually I agree with you. Bots are used for increasing visibility of posts. There is no meaning of using a bot for 1 photo post or non-quality posts. And almost all bots give profit to users who know how to use them.
In my last article you read that it's possible to earn money from upvote of bots. But I want to say it again for users who don't know how to use a bot in the best way: You should learn it good before you use them and never play gamble with those bid bots or as you know casino will always win and you will always lose. That's why I'm trying to teach people how to use bots safely. But as I mentioned in this post, some bots are keeping all profit for themselves. That's why choosing a bot is the most important thing on Steemit (I wrote this paragraph for new users).
I want to ask you something though. Are you planning to create a bot in future? You're already our witness, I saw some people were creating bots in different communities. What are your thoughts about it?
Còn có cách để bài của mình thịnh hành như thế nữa ạ? E cũng định dùng bot cho những bài e cảm thấy hay nhưng đọc cách dùng bot sao cho có lợi thấy phức tạp quá. Cảm thấy môn học toán dốt nên. Khi nào thấy các bạn chơi bot nhiều mới thuê quá 😂
You can ask me anything about bots (except how to create a bot, because I'm not a developer). I think I can say I solved math of bots, so I can help you about profit.
You might have missed it, in the post where I linked to a an Excel spreadsheet for bot profit calculation. After the screenshot, I’ve mentioned about @teamvn the bot I created and that the community have agreed to let you into its list as a honorary member 😊
I saw it of course, thank you for helping this community. I really hope we can make it grow together. And I'm also thankful to Vietnamese community to let me be in this list.
The bot is only a tiny bot. Upvotes are not big, but it gives some motivation to the members. It is still under development but once stable we will try to get more members delegating to it even 2 or 5SP each to grow its strength and start supporting more users.
It's really good project to keep motivation high.
@quochuy, if bot sends message in both Vietnamese and English I'm thinking about delegation too. Can you change comments of bot for English too?
Why should not use Bot at this time, because prices will fluctuate strongly will suffer losses, but break those who need SP will not care about that. for example: me.
Thuê Bot, Cách chơi có lãi - Hire Bot, How to play profitably.
Your guide is ultimate guide about steembottracker for Vietnamese community. I suggest everybody to read it at least once to understand what is steembottracker and how to use it.
And even it's good website, some bots are not sending upvotes that they promise for in that website. That's why I write this post.
yes... thanks you cmt
This is a good one. So after I submit my post, take sometimes to get to know about bots in steembottracker instead of getting excited and blindly send sbd immediately to bots and see how it is.
Yeah, you can look at other people's bids instead of trying it yourself. So you don't lose money and you can increase your chance of profit. And you can use same method for promotion bots too. Just go to wallet page of bot and check people who sent money recently. You can see how much they gain from their post.
I have to say I don't suggest using bid bots on Steemit, because it's really risky sometimes. That's why I mostly use promotion services instead of bid bots.
Wise advises. Btw, I am little confused here what is promotion bots? They think there are bid bots, resteem bots.
@minnowbooster, @smartmarket is Promotion bots, Adam
Thanks @lantracy for explaining!
Thank you @lantracy for your answer. I agree with you.
I want to say again. I really don't suggest resteem bots. They're kind because they're sending small amounts of SBD to our wallets, but there's no profit of using them.
I think it must be
If someone sent 3 SBD to a bot and if they get $5 when bot shows 10% ROI, it's not good bot.
Am I understand it wrong?
I wrote wrong I think. I meant if somebody is sending 3 SBD but receiving 5 dollars vote when bot shows 10% ROI on steembottracker, it's not good bot. The meaning here is if you send more and receive less vote, it's not good bot. 5 dollars here is value of vote that you receive from bot.
I can understand your mind.
Just the way it is presented, if want, you can still fix it so that it does not cause confusion.
I really appreciate your experience. Really is that!
I edited post, thank you again for warning.
I have seen and will read it carefully, it is very good for me.
Thanks a lot @hungrybanana!
You got a 9.73% upvote from @emperorofnaps courtesy of @hungrybanana!
Want to promote your posts too? Send 0.05+ SBD or STEEM to @emperorofnaps to receive a share of a full upvote every 2.4 hours...Then go relax and take a nap!
How can I caculate to know GOOD or BAD? Can you show me ? Now I am thinking to use bot
It's not right time to use bots now because of Steem price. I think we all should wait for smartmarket to have more than 210% vote again, now they decreased it to 192% max. If we can't be patient, we can't earn enough profit. I'm using safe bid bots though for promoting my contents.
where can you know that?
You should check steembottracker website and you can find more information about bots in there. Now they increased it to 204% max, but I think I will keep waiting 216% as they did few days ago. When it's 210%, I gave 20 SBD, and they gave 42 dollars (210%) vote. That's why it's important. Now they're giving about 180%.
tôi chỉ thực sự dùng bot khi bài viết của tôi đủ tốt.có một số người đang lạm dụng bot để quy đổi sang steem power một cách thái quá.
Yes, some people are using bots for low quality posts. I think they should write 1 good quality post in a week and spend whole money for that post instead of spending for low quality ones.
nếu bài đăng thật sự tốt,nó sẽ dc nhiều người chú ý.đó là mục đích cao cả nhất để quảng bá tác phẩm
Of course, I agree with your opinion.
I will resteem this article to read it again 1 or more times. My head is messing up, but I find that can be followed by your instructions.
Thanks a lot!Thank @hungrybanana
Thank you, I hope it will be helpful!
I used to use Bot but maybe I'm unlucky haha
It's not about luck, it's about calculations and math. You should use better bots next time.
If we're talking about luck, I must be the unluckiest person alive. Because when I change my Steem to SBD, Steem/SBD price increased. And I also remember I bought around 15 SBD with high amount of money, because I bought when it was over 7 dollars.
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