VERGE (XVG) Is Following Bitcoin (BTC)

in #verge7 years ago

SUMMARY

The whole Cryptosphere is following Bitcoin (BTC)'s lead in this healthy correction. This is because the similarity index of sentiment across Cryptosphere is very high. It's often called "All the Same Market" phase. Given how small the Cryptosphere market place is compared to the equities, such similar market uniformity is quite common. Take into consideration the frequencies of Cup & Handle, Symmetrical Triangles and Jaws of Wealth patterns. These are the result of sentime being quite similar across coins.

I've consistently said that Bitcoin is the moon that moves the tides in the Cryptosphere Ocean and every altcoin swims in that ocean. The same for, If Bitcoin sneezes, then the Altcoins catch the flu!

The below chart is a shorter degree of trend view of VERGE (XVG). The white A,B,C Flat corrective waves are in progress and wave C can be sublabeled with 1,2,3,4,5 (green) waves. The first landing zone target is $0.0444 where a buy ladder can be cast.

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Thanks for updating Verge. I've also posted updates on several coins.

IMPORTANT Coin Updates (BTC, ADA, BTS, EMC2, ETC, GNT, SBD, STEEM, XVG)

https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@benkalashnikov/important-coin-updates-btc-ada-bts-emc2-etc-gnt-sbd-steem-xvg

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we have three guys here for this prediction which one to believe?
@haejin target 0.04
@salahuddin2004 $1 for verge
@benkalashnikov something else

Just bought $1500 more worth of steem. Gonna be investing more in steem power! Love the prices staying low while I allocate in.

Just because all is getting down in thiese days!
After the correction, i guess also steem will rise up! :)

"I've consistently said that Bitcoin is the moon that moves the tides in the Cryptosphere Ocean and every altcoin swims in that ocean. The same for, If Bitcoin sneezes, then the Altcoins catch the flu!"

You don't have to analyse altcoins anymore. 😉

Verge will bounce back just like many of the alt coins it just depends if you believe in the technology and the market. Just relax and understand that not all markets can constantly go up. You have to take the rough with the smooth! HODL and Chill peeps! Face ur fears live your dreams! :)

This is a pretty significant crash, many of the alt coins may not recover or it will be a slow process, especially ones with poor fundamentals or use cases. Most of them have had a great pump up, now we see the dump, only the better ones recover from here.

It is very difficult to predict exactly what will happen with Bitcoin's price in the future. Any currency can be the object of collapse. @haejin

KAOS is a beautiful thing - when you bet what you can afford - but hell for those who borrowed.

Its not only Verge.
I understand the whole Big daddy Bitcoin thing but how does this happen.
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Almost identical? Synchronised movement, how?
And this is only a few coins, its pretty much across the board.

Isn't the answer painfully, blindingly obvious?

These coins are all priced in Bitcoin, and Bitcoin went down hard.

What happens when the denominator of your value takes it on the chin? Derp.

Hey Vynl, to explain why, I think a majority of big players knew that Bitcoin was coming down, when it broke support, a crazy amount of traders (including me) sold EVERY COIN in their wallet to collect what was left.
You could call that Fear but I call it being greedy! We now have a chance to almost DOUBLE our BTC value If this correction ends in 9-8ks.
I firmly believe this is what the mega Bitcoin whales are doing at the moment, causing fear while staying greedy.

Just my opinion of course~

Bingo, you get it. That is exactly what is happening. So many weak hands losing their shit and calling their bosses asking for their day jobs back right now. "The sky is falling!" and "Haejin is a fraud!" lol.

Give it a month and we'll be staring new ATH's right in the face.

Yeah but have a look at the chart, theres up movement and sideways movement too. How did "everyone" all at the exact same time sell and buy every coin to make them all move in syncrinicity?
If every person holding these coins all had a huge phone conference call and agreed to all hit sell at the same time on every coin they have then all buy and hold for the same amount of time etc maybe you could get the charts to all look the same.
Do you get what im in about here? The lengths youd have to go to to get the charts to look identical would be outreageous and yet im seeing identical patterns across multiple coins. I still havent heard a convincing explanation how this happens. If its impossible for charts for different coins to all look identical moving upwards, its impossible for them to look identical coming down isnt it?

You are right. Noticed it also. It seems a lot of trading is done by bots / automated system. I am quite sure it is.

Bots. Plain and simple

Think of it as King Tide - and Bitcoin is the KING and The Tide

Well if thats the case we dont need to do any TA on any other coin, they should all mimic Bitcoin. But they don't so your analogy doesnt work. I understand how big an influence Bitcoin has but i cant get my head around how multiple coins move in sync like that.
Why havent i seen this happen before?
Why only on this correction?

your welcome Haejin. anytime. ;)

What I did with $1000 fiat today
Ada Cardano = $500 at 4850 sat = 952 units
FunFair = $200 at 700 sat = 2850 units
Groestlecoin = $100 at 7400 sat =115 units
Aragon = $100 at 37000 sat = 25 units
Stellar Lumens = $100 at 3200 sat = 250 units

There maybe another %50 dip and Yes maybe your %100 right. If that happens I will look to projects which i believe still have huge potential. And i will scoop up $1000 more and hit my unit goal for other Coins. No Stress.

Whinnie; Whinnie, poor Whinnie. Pay attn.

How about Quantstamp and Vechain? They seem to be holding up pretty well against the shitstorm that is hitting crypto. Looks like a good investment option.

I made a post about this:
https://steemit.com/vechain/@jdvzs/what-to-look-for-in-this-crypto-crash-an-assessment-of-vechain-and-quantstamp

Seriously do you think it will recover ?

I was wondering the same question.

Thank you @haejin for this wonderful post as always, in my own opinion, I agree with you that bitcoin is the father of coins right now and without a doubt, it indirectly influences the activity of other coins too. Ladder buying is also very important, one needs to know when to cast effectively.

Bitcoin has been the trend setter. Hurt bitcoin and it will take everything down.

Incredible...my bank has just cancelled my crypto purchase on COINBASE. This is there new policy!

Time to change banks!

Which bank??

Capitol One

are there any coins where the sentiment is opposite of bitcoin?
or wonder how we can find coins that have different sentiment from the majority. Would that be a good diversification technique -- not to have all eggs in tokens that express similar sentiment?

Would be a nice idea, but I seem to think everything is pegged to bitcoin, until there are cryptos being exchanged directly for fiat money there won’t be much of a seperation.

How can that count possibly be correct. If you’re assuming the ATH is top of wave 5 it looks like your wave 1 and wave 4 wicks cross, thereby violating elliot waves. Your XVG predictions have absolutely destroy my portofolio. Down a whopping 80% from where you predicted it to shoot up from.

Seriously? Blame yourself if your XVG is down. His charting predictions are spot on. The reason why Verge is down is because EVERYTHING is down. NO Charting would ever catch such a thing. Because the Crypto market in general is being massively manipulated.

Relax, all will eventually go back into the GREEN. Corrections like this weed out the weak hands and the garbage coins.

I love master Lee but he has been WAY off on Verge. Like completely wrong

Could this be possible too ?

Possible yes, as double ZigZag 5-3-5-3-5.
I would then put the (3) on your C though for Verge (you are showing a BTC/USD?).
My primary is, that the correction is nearly done (similar to haejins count on XVG/USD).
I even have an alternate count in mind, where the E wave is done and we are going up again.
The correction often goes back to the 4 of the impulse wave, which was 608 on 22/12.
Also I could count 5 subwaves
Depends how the short term uptrend right now develops.

I had to turn my screen upside down, the graph is more convenient that way.

Everyone does realise there’s so much confirmation bias dont they? If he keeps calling for coins to go up from points where they’re obviously low and in correction, they will eventually go up because there’s nowhere left for it to drop. I can just repeatedly call for coins to go up and ill be right because eventually they will - days, weeks, months, years down the track they will.

But no one mentions it or calls him out when it goes the opposite way of his calls. They just say “Oh yeah, it’s all just part of the correction - he doesn’t have a crystal ball you know”. But then when it goes up - “he’s a genius!”

Where was his call that we were at the terminal end of a wave 5 with nearly all the altcoins and it was time to bail? He often says that best time to sell is terminal end of wave 5. If he’s such a master of TA why couldnt he see the obvious snowball rolling down the hill towards us?

Either, 1. His TA is really not that great. 2. He’s playing us all for fools. 3. He’s just stabbing in the dark in a bull market.

I love the guy but i was starting to notice/think the same thing. Some of the "bullish" triangles he kept pointing out were just "3 desending peak" patterns.

Also, you are right about these 5th wave. A ton of these coins were at the end of their 5th wave and nothing of this was mentioned either.

Ive actually picked a few undeveloped coins myself and came out with some gains. Hes been right on the undeveloped coins but so-so with the bigger developed coins. Hes been completely wrong with BTC/XVG for over a month now.

Could someone please repost the image of Haejin's chart as it has been blocked due to low ratings. Many thanks!!

Jesus Christ...hit the fucking show images button instead of trying to employ others to work for you for free.

it is quite remarkable just how similar the BTC ans XVG are...almost a match...if this continues then when BTC rises it could take VERGE with it. What a magical thought that would be.

The problem in a sell off as i have been there myself when there was a mini crash in Nov, you never buy back exactly the same coins, those that lost all faith in Verge could live to regret that fact.

$ 1 predictet soon,is now a year away.Looks like you cannot see correction comming in your TA.We cannot call this correction,this is crash.

Here is a master piece from the master 8 days ago:
https://steemit.com/dtube/@haejin/xolanri5

Hopefully you believers bought a lot followed the master advice.
I am honestly saying this is a sick world where this piece of shit can earn a lots of money giving people shit advice. But I am also honestly saying I can congratulate this shit person how he can ride this shit waves on the shit ocean.

He says that with most coins he does zero research. His approach is purely technical analysis and identifying trends in the charts. On a select few coins, @haejin said he does research but those are the ones he is interested in from a tech standpoint. I think it’s honorable NOT to delete in. In a way, that’s him willingly admitting that he is wrong occasionally.

I lost my ass on XVG (to the tune of $20,000). Gotta love being on an airplane and not being able to see the market take a big old watery poop. This market is a very rewarding or expensive casino.

I appreciate the lessons I’ve learned about Elliott wave theory. I have learned so much about TA and the markets in general that it’s become a hobby of sorts.

As to the money, i’m blessed that I could afford to lose that money. Overall, I’m still up on 90% of my investments. XVG was a coordinated FUD carpet bombing... Verge managed to rise from the smoldering rubble multiple times and earned my respect and loyalty in the process.

I agree with you that this will be the year that privacy coins take flight. Privacy is paramount in a world where our info is sold to the highest bidder.

@haejin I believe Investors were into these coins for a reason, to make Money. Once Bitcoin corrects, people will buy Bitcoin like a stampede showing a 'slingshot' (as you put it) on the MACD, this growing trend of Alt-coin investors will flock to these Sales like it's Boxing day!

This is just the loading screen! 2018 will create the greatest amount of millionaires on any other market and I am so ready to play this game! Thanks for the cheat codes Master Lee <3

haha, well first i'll free my parents from debt then maybe we can go for a ride :).

You should STOP, please do not post anything. Was only pure luck when you hit it right and that was in December , all altcoins poped up.
For example on Verge but other coins too, you are posting every few days that will go up by hundreds percents, and is dropping even more every time you predict, fact : Verge is down by 1000% since you said that will go to the moon and since Verge was 15$... just STOP is not funny anymore, people losing money and you give hopes every day, maybe will go up where it was this year, maybe not...

I warned the believers lots of times that this man is a bad joke.

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very nice. thanks

 7 years ago  Reveal Comment

What happened to the agreement?? Downvoted to oblivion again? Do I need to re-activate my twitter onslaught to Steem community??

It is relieving to see you finally posting in acceptance we are in a bear market. The last few weeks i have had my doubts about your analysis after a consistent BULLISH outlook on everything. Some of your videos have come across quite arrogant, quoting "A lot of people are calling for the drop, but do i care? NO".

Now you are beginning to predict lower lows after only days ago calling for higher highs. I have been calling for XVG to drop between 0.08-0.06 for weeks, and that is purely by following the technical analysis learned from YOU and the books you recommended! I cant understand how you have missed it - like you always say a huge extended 5th will have a much deeper level of retracement, but you kept consistently calling for highs??? Just a quick glance at the hourly chart and you can see how massively oversold the market is!

I can accept maybe you were a little distracted in the flagging war. But to be honest the majority of your short term posts in the last few weeks have been incorrect, which in a way should detract them of value, also considering there is 10 of them per day.

Dont get me wrong, over time all your posts will come to fruition, and there will be higher highs set across the crypto-sphere, but at the end of the day anyone can call that.

Maybe its the massive earnings you have been making on steemit recently have affected your analysis? Opting for quantity over quality due to youre higher rewards? I dont know. But i do I know the 90% success rate you once had will have dropped dramatically.

Its also a shame you dont interact with your followers as much as you used to. I remember when i came across your blog last year there was constant interaction between you and budding Elliot wave theorists looking to learn more. Now i rarely see your name pop up in the comments, and a lot of really constructive comments left on your blog have been ignored. What happened my bro?? Its like youre a different person to who you were in August last year?

Not quite sure why my comment has been flagged, i felt it was fairly constructive critisism and open to @haejin for reply - shame really because i would love to hear a response. I can see what @berniesanders and @randowhale were talking about with haejins followers downvoting at the slightest bit of doubt of his work.

Oddly enough, it was downvoted by one of the anti-Haejin accounts...

I guess it didn't make any friends at all.

PS - Being willing to change one's forecast to fit new info isn't a weakness.

Thanks man, yeh generally if youre ignorant you dont reply - regardless of whether youre a petty fool or not