Okay, so what you are telling me is that animal cruelty is feminists fault??!?! and that feminists are responsible for their own oppression because they are "exclusive"? is that basically what you are telling me?
its feminists that are causing all of these problems??
Not exactly. What I'm trying to convey here is that feminism is a movement against discrimination and oppression of females. And while most women are quick to point out them being victimized or about their vulnerability, but fail to take into account that they themselves are oppressors too.
Non-vegan women discriminate, oppress and victimize innocent and vulnerable non-human females. So when they raise a finger against oppression, their other three fingers are pointing towards themselves. Unless, it's taken care of, this movement won't succeed.
If you read one of my earlier comments here, you may have noticed that I'm talking about intersectional feminism here:
So to put it simply:
If you are not an intersectional feminist, you are not a true feminist and if you are not vegan, you are not a feminist.
You are a man. Work on your own ingrained privilege. Then we can talk about veganism. You need to learn a loooooooot more about feminism before you dictate what is and isnt feminist.
Basically , everything.
These two issues are seperate. Do not asked the oppressed to fix a problem that is mostly created by men.
We are an earthling first and a man or woman later. Why are you suggesting me to work on my own ingrained privileges when I'm talking about coming out of all your ingrained privileges which make you to oppress innocent beings?
If you know better about feminism, why don't you enlighten me on it?
And you got me wrong. I'm asking the oppressor here to fix the problem. So when would you be ready to talk about veganism @limabeing?
If you cant recognize that men are oppressing women and that human rights are just as if not more important than animal rights then you and i cant discuss anything.
You are asking feminists who you claim are the oppressors to solve somethkng that you think is a problem. When it is a way of life for many. You can be upset about it but dragging feminist into this and trashing on us isnt a good way to convert or start a healthy discussion.
Thanks bye
Now this is entirely your interpretation. I didn't say anything to this effect.
Yes, that's correct.
You always bring in the argumentum ad populum. Even if your stand is correct, your fallacious argument makes you sound otherwise. Going by this argument, you won't be able to make a case for your own issue of gender discrimination. Because you always want to follow the established way of life! How ridiculous! Now I agree to you that we can't discuss anything.
Thanks for your input anyway!
You didnt start with a discussion. You started with an attack.
"You always" ? Who is "you"
You started this post belittling feminism and our current work and then you expect me to give you patience and respect?
Answer this:
Do you believe that woman all over the world are oppressed?
Not all women are oppressed and modern feminism is more of overpowering and claiming all men are evil than actual equality.
Nowadays we see violent women (and some men as well) claiming preposterous things like "women can be raped by being looked at for more than 3 seconds" and other nonsense. However, in all those angry riots you never see feminists arguing for fair treatment of women in the Middle East where they're raped and stoned and treated brutally. So feminism is, at best, a hypocrite movement that disingenuously tries to distort the truth while hiding the real issues and in some cases (not so few in today's society) trying to impose a fascist point of view of dominating men and trying to solve the issue by shifting it to the other side extremely