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RE: Value Plan Q4 2025 Proposal and Event Overview

in #valueplan4 months ago (edited)

I'm just killing time, and recognized long time ago, it's just a free money tap for the few.

However, you (and the guys who run VP) should ask questions:

Are there any real advantage of running VP?
What will a newcomer, potential small investor, developer will think about it?
Who will believe, it serves the common good, when since years they can't show up any results, but they still keep going on with it?

The amount they waste in Venezuela, Africa is just nuts compared to the size of Hive, and the potentially reached people's purchasing power there.

In Venezuela, Nigeria, you can run national advertising campaigns for the amount what officially they spend there.

For example:

I asked for budget friendly ads options in these 2 countries:

Estimated Cost Breakdown (Airtime Only)

  1. Venezuela
    National Channels: Look at channels like VTV (Venezolana de Televisión), TVES, or regional channels with national reach. These have lower viewership than RCTV or Venevisión and thus much lower rates.

Cost per 15-second slot: On a cheap national channel, a slot could be as low as $100 - $400 USD in a low-demand time slot.

Total for 100 slots: 100 slots × $250 (avg. cost) = $25,000 USD

  1. Nigeria
    Cheapest National Channels: While NTA has the widest reach, its rates can be high. A cheaper alternative could be a network like Silverbird TV or a smaller national news channel. The key is to avoid the premium entertainment channels like Africa Magic.

Cost per 15-second slot: On a national channel, expect to pay $200 - $700 USD per 15-second slot.

Total for 100 slots: 100 slots × $450 (avg. cost) = $45,000 USD

In both countries, they could sponsor (with logo on shirts, boards etc.) 1st division football teams for a complete season for $50-100k

Meantime, they spend more money for individuals, stupid useless crap, what hardly brings 50-100 new users, not to mention less than 10% of them will use Hive for at least few months.

From the developer side:

No funds for new projects, basically the result of these conferences very near to ZERO!!! You can't name overall 5 projects and 10 developers from the last 2 years, who came here, and started to build something!!!

Only way to get funding, if you know personally the "core team".

One of the funniest thing is the rally car. Hive, or who knows who exactly from Hive, officially (at least that what they said) owns 40-60% of the car, but ATTENTION!!! Hive DAO pays all the expenses for that car!!! :) :) :) not just 40-60%, but full maintanance, running cost is on Hive.

Cancelled events, like the Brazil event never seen any refunds, nobody knows what happened with the money, they asked for that, as nobody knows, how much was separated for that. only thing is sure: THEY HAVE SPENT ALL!!! :) :) :)

Unfortunately, VP makes more damage to Hive economy, and for Hive marketing than the advantages it could create.

Anybody who comes here, checks it, it will see: Hive in theory decentralized, but in practice, it is centralized, and money - better case - wasted, worse case: stolen.

Ergo, nobody will spend a cent for Hive, nobody will build anything on it!

VP is all about few dozens of very greedy guys own pocket, nothing else! But hey, it's crypto! so nothing new under the sun! 😂

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I just want to ask you one thing. How would you advertise things on national TV ? Would you put flying bee ? Or some mediocre designs? That anyone sane will laugh about. The complexity of blockchain and Hive it's more than just slot in national TV, what you gonna say to average JOE through those ads and BTW who watch TV these days? Grandads.... If you think that marketing strategy is just slap advert (any) on TV then you are absolutely wrong my friend.

That's very simple, I think, everybody know, who ever watched TV! 😂

First few seconds, grab attention: vomit from big tech soc media, censorship, where they monitor, observe you, sell your data and earn on you and you got nothing?

Main message: Here is Hive, censorship resistant web3 soc media blabla

And in the end for 2-3 seconds a call to action. Could be a Hive welcome page (hive.io?) where everything is there detailed info about Hive in written and video format, how to use it, sign up etc. with all the apps, of course fully, regularly updated version.

Of course, after wasting millions of $s by VP, not even a good up to date, welcome page, landing page exist.

I suppose, these guys have that much knowledge about marketing like any average Joe, they are just freeloading!!!

I just checked, just in the half year, they were wasted $150.000 in Venezuela, alone!!!

For that much money, even the president of VEN can be bought to talk about Hive in a parliamentary session!

Based on IMF data, the PPP (purchasing power) of Venezuela is 55, that means, what worth $1 in USA, it worths $55 in Venezuela!!!!

I think, you can multiply $150.000 with 55....🤣 But i help you!

$8.250.000

What do you think, could you get at least few hundred active users for that money in the west??? :)

Hope, it will help you to understand what is really going on with VP, especially about the LATAM and African "spendings", and why they do NOT want to prove any spendings by invoices!!! 🤑🤑🤑

Read the previous posts and read this one.

  • 100% of the rally car is owned by Hive.
  • Brazil was cancelled before anything was paid.
    Most of what you said you simply made up.

Great! 😀 This cancelled Brazil event exactly shows what you are doing is minimun the misappropriation of funds category, as you asked for money, did NOT pay, but it still disappeared in one of your worthless rabbit hole. The only thing what you doing properly: spending all the money all the time till the last cent, without providing any documentation about that. This silly, small kid kinda posts are obviously just bad jokes, mockings.

Anyway, you don't have to convince me, as I won't ever spend for Hive, maximum shorting it, if it does a spike.

You have to convince the (not coming) newcomer users, developers, investors.

One of their first trip will be led to DAO, and they will see what for you waste money (again, in better case, since you have zero transparency - what you do here is not transparency at all!, just empty words!), they will seee, it is not decentralized in practice, VP is fully centralized, how you always advertise it in your posts and those potential newcomers will immediately leave!!! These are just pure facts, nothing to debate!

With VP, you made DAO even more spectacularly centralized, no competition for funds, few person just giving away DAO money for their buddies - without any kind of accountability.

It doesn't mean marketing can't be worthy, but what you do is very far from marketing.

DAO in practice is not decentralized, money wasted, robbed from DAO, and users can't do anything against that.

And you can agrue against it day and night, people are selling their Hive because of that, too, and leaving it because of your irresponsible behavior, not mine. The result of the million $s wasted through VP is technically ZERO, but you still keep going on with the same crap... :)

You can certainly do it, but don't pretend you are saints, when everybody see what you are doing!, don't look people so stupid that they won't see it, and write off Hive.

So overall, obviously yes, your VP moneygrap is making a lot more damage than benefit.