I still believe those stories are rare in the grand scheme. Every one of my friends and family have been vaccinated, all my friends' children are vaccinated, save a couple people, every single person I know has been vaccinated. For some reason though, of all those hundreds or maybe thousands of shots, I'd never even heard of vaccine injury until social media became a thing. Now, maybe vaccine injury is just rare in my area, but I doubt that.
SIDS doesn't exist btw. It never did. It's a catch-all term when a doctor can't pinpoint what caused the death. If a child dies from a vaccine, it's not SIDS.
10% maybe of adults is up to date on their vaccines. I have only had the dtap after getting cut at work once since grade 10. Vaccines do not work forever. I never get sick. So saying one wass vaccinated as a child means nothing now as an adult if one does not get periodic boosters, which then make you an infectious carrier again. In some places even pregnant woman are vaccinated WTF! The schedule for children now is criminal. They even want to give infants vaccines that are defending against sexual transmitted diseases, again WTF. Most 'outbreaks' are in areas where a vaccine push has just happened. No actual study has been done to show vaccine safety or effectiveness. You never heard of vaccine injury before because the companies that make them are NOT allowed to be filed against or sued. Also you have heard of it, as autoimmune diseases, diseases related to digestion, neurological damage in many forms. The lists go on. To properly understand what is happening here, one must understand birth and early childhood development. When one grasps that importance properly, they would never consider vaccinating a child to be a good thing. Once they are 3 go for it if it makes a person feel good. Before then, it sets a child up for so many problems with health. And who gets paid for a sick kid. The same fucking people who male the vaccines.
You guys can all get as aggressive as you'd like. Vaccines save lives. The proof is in the pudding. There is a reason no one in America gets polio anymore. It's called herd immunity. Just because you don't "get sick" doesn't mean you can't carry a potentially fatal virus and pass it to someone else. I'm done arguing this point today. At least I know my children will never die from a disease we can easily prevent.
In this case the proof is not in the pudding at all. It is not a debate. There is no proof that vaccines actually do what they say other than some graphs the CDC has put out. Which means nothing, no 'evidence' by the CDC is credible as they are heavily invested in Vaccine development. Herd Immunity is not actually a thing, this is what people that don't know what is going on say. Essentially people that get vaccinated have that potentially fatal virus in them to give to others for 3 weeks. Anyone can have a potentially harmful virus whether they are vaccinated or not. I would never say anyone is safe from a disease and relying on vaccines for protection is just another lie people are led to believe making them even more dangerous.
So has polio just gone away on it's own?
Indeed, polio was going away on its own, if you take the time to examine the government mortality data around the world. Clean water and sanitation. The vaccine actually caused a spike in polio cases, if I am not mistaken. I believe Jonas Salk himself attested to this.
Let's do a formal debate!
I truly don't have time for a "formal debate"
or research.
There ya go. Why the quotes around "formal debate"? It wasn't a joke.
I am certainly not getting aggressive. I am asking for numbers which you are unable to provide, and questions you seem unwilling to answer.
Why are the reports of vaccine injury (see the VAERS database) ignored, and why are these people sent to a separate court to be compensated (if they are lucky)?
One cannot do an accurate risk/benefit analysis without all the numbers.
I'd encourage you to take me up on my offer to formally debate this in a polite setting with a neutral moderator.
You guys keep bringing up the VAERS database like it's not one sided. Do they collect data on all the hundreds of thousands of cases of successful vaccinated children?
The VAERS database is for reports of vaccine injury. No one has made the claim that they collect other information. I am simply asking why the VAERS reports are not considered by the CDC or other such groups when attempting to establish accurate data regarding risk factors for vaccination.
You make a lot of great points:
No actual study has been done to show vaccine safety or effectiveness.
it sets a child up for so many problems with health. And who gets paid for a sick kid. The same fucking people who male the vaccines. :)
Indeed, this topic starts to make my blood boil. Mostly because of how sickening the system is and the people that make these poisons seem to not care about the kids. Also the MSM spamming of vaccine safety. Guess what, the same groups of people run the MSM, so obviously the news will say they are safe. Doctors know nothing about what is in them or their safety I have asked many. It IS brainwashing. And the vast majority of people are so brainwashed and stuck on the belief that they work and save lives they completely miss the fact that the children and adults suffer for their whole life because a needle they got as a child. Wayyyy more kids suffer from issues pertaining to vaccines and other poisons they are spoonfed (some literally) then do dying from a disease anymore. It has become one big social experiment and we are the guinea pigs. Early vaccines did more damage and caused more outbreaks then some of the diseases. Course the CDC will deny everything. Thankfully we have had some whistleblowers that have not been murdered. Yay!
Belief is the problem. Thinking and knowing is the aim.