well if you say so, i agree with not every logo need to follow the symetrical rules, in this case the outer circle lead our mind to think symetrically, it's not intentional. our mind then will compare the outer circle with the "child head" that also looks like a circle. and we will see the inconsistent gap. but if you insist about the organic fell, there is another way to make it looks more appealing, you can make the "child head" a little bit smaller so the inconsitent gap will be less noticeable. see the image bellow for comparison.
That is not an outer circle... it is a different added design and not an outer circle, in this case a planet ring which was the idea...
Talking of making the child head smaller, does it mean the creator of the logo doesnt have his/her own decisions to make for designs?
Making it smaller appeals better to you, and not to me, and i am sure there are other logo designers out there that will have their own opinion. The smaller the child head, the more it feels disconnected from the design and the goal is to make the whole design feel like a unit and not separate elements
Art/Logo/designs is relative and only have more meaning to the creator... Making the head smaller doesn't mean it will appeal to other persons, it is just a matter of how I wanted the design to look and the SATISFACTION OF THE PROJECT OWNER
Yes planet ring, and what is the shape of that ring? Circle. I said it outer circle because it is placed outer most.
And yes of course you as the creator has your own decision. I am here as a moderator giving a suggestion on how the logo could be better by following the way of a designer which is solving a problem. In graphic design, inconsistency is a problem and designer should solve this problem. Again, i am here as a moderator and a graphic designer give my two cents on how this logo can be improved. Eventually it is up to you whether you want to follow it or not. :D
Thanks a lot... I really appreciate your input
I would love to ask... Was yours an improvement ?
Talking of inconsistency, what makes this logo inconsistent? cos of the two different circle shapes that interfered with the spacing?....
Yes it is up to designers to follow what they want... But is that the same thought when ANSWERING THE UTOPIAN QUESTIONS?
And about the meaning of a logo is relative, i totally agree. But you know in logo design there are basic principles that should be followed to make a good logo, and one of them is consistency and balancing. Every logo designer should know this. Or else someday someone or a 5 year old kid will submit a doodle, like literally just a doodle and said it is a logo and thats all he want and it's perfect in his opinion. But when you show it to other logo fesigner they will say its just a doodle not a logo. Imagine utopian have to give 100% reward.
I am not saying mine was a perfect improvement, it is just to show how gap inconsistency can affect the balancing of the logo.
I am answering the questions base on my knowledge in graphic design. And based on my knowledge gap inconsistency is a problem and ahould be fix. That's why i suggest it to you.
I hope you are clear that i am not holding your points so youget less reward. Once againg i am moderating based on my knowledge in graphic design. If you think i am not capable of doing so you can suggest to utopian community manager to kick me out from moderating. :)
I appreciate your efforts in what you are doing... Really nice...
But my point was that gap consistency and symmetry are great rules but part of the least rules to follow in logo design in cases when it is little and can not be avoided. Making it perfectly consistent in the gap would mean i would alter my idea concept and also making the circle shapes same sizes.
Remember... The bottom part of my idea concept was a voice or communication wave... so the whole design had to match... Mking it perfect like in your first version would affect the SPACING IN THE SPEACH WAVES
The Apple logo isnt sysmetrical and it is one of the valuable logos out there
... It could apply to graphics design in general
Anyways... have a great day ahead :)
The base of Apple logo is symetrical. It even use the golden ratio :)
I agree that it is a small inconsistency (you can see i answered the question with: very good, open for improvement), but i don't agree that it can't be avoided, i just showed you that if you make the child head smaller the inconsistency will be less noticeable. And that's one of the way graphic designers solving a problem.
I am not asking you to alter your concept. I just tell you that the logo has inconsistency and i tell you you could avoid it by doing this and this.
Have a great day too :)
I talked about the apple logo is not symmetrical and not the construction rule followed.. even though this is just remake of streamlined and mechanical designers :)...
In a symmetrical shape, everything has to be symetrical in each sides and not only a part... the logo is everything and not just the bottom part :)
Remember, In my design, the face had to look natural... The voice wave had to look right... Look at my idea concept in the proof of authorship section... the smile and the jaw ring and the outer ring forms the HIDDEN SPEACH or HIDDEN COMMUNICATION WAVE...
Making it perfectly symetrical like your first one will ALTER the spacing in the SPEACH WAVE and will not look correct...
Like I SAID... good designers create designs to match his/her original ideas and then MAKE CHANGES only where neccessary... THERE are key rules to keep in mind first, but the satisfaction in the design should be the ultimate goal.
have a great day once again :)