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RE: Please refer to the latest announcement

in #utopian-io6 years ago

there are more widely used languages and people waiting for those languages to be included in translation categories.

I believe the decision is based upon availability of LMs for those languages and their actual expertise. Additionally the voting distribution may not be enough to expand too fast and some languages may have to wait longer than others. Is there any specific example of languages should be considered first?

There are usually 3 translators with 1 moderators afaik, and who suppose to check everything going well on each category.

I proposed this idea recently with the core team: to have periodical audits, undertaken by teams . of external professionals who aren't in any way linked to the existing teams, to reduce bias and mitigate potential abuses.

Plus those projects are usually open to only team members so it's hard to check the work done from outside.

This is a good point. Definitely to be brought up with the DaVinci management

that makes me think if it's too easy to get rewards through translating

Translators will disagree. There have been improvements to the questionnaire to make it more granular and this component has been made more significant for the calculation of the final score.

I found many (like MANY) weird transfers to the same exchanges, between translators and moderators, odd behaviors on accounts like having zero comments on the blockchain, zero interactions but almost hundreds of translation contributions.

Would you mind creating a list and share it with me if you are available for that?

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https://hackmd.io/ek2E1Er1Sp-9VZecZweccQ here is the list, sorry it took long. And might be quite messy, I tried my best to keep it objective and clean as possible. Didn't include any personal opinion, you just need to take a further look if you find anything suspicious, I don't know like their first transactions on steemd, who they batch-voted, batch followed just after the account creation. Voting behaviours on steemreports, transfers in detail on steemworld.

cc: @elear @scienceangel @egotheist @imcesca @dimitrisp @jmromero @rosatravels @aboutcoolscience

Thanks @oups for putting in this extra effort to help us. We appreciate this information and will do research on them.

Thank you very much @oups for putting together such an exhaustive list. If I saw correctly, there almost were no teams without at least some transfers between members. This should be definitely investigated more deeply to see what was the purpose of all those transfers between the members of teams.

One such list has been shared if the sources I saw are correct. Were any actions taken as a reaction to the list?

Great, I'm not trying to undervalued their work in no way. It's just there are too many translation contributions. Possibly because there are too many translators but this is how utopian.rocks looks like,

Is there any specific example of languages should be considered first?

Since I'm Turkish :) not that I'm going to translate but I'd like to see it amongst the allowed languages since there are already many of the languages there, then why not Turkish, simple man's logic.

Would you mind creating a list and share it with me if you are available for that?

Sure, it could take some time tho. I occasionally checked a few languages, now it's time to practice more Python and provide the whole list. 👍

Hi @oups, thank you very much for your interest to help us improve Translations category and prevent abuse. These are very serious accusations:

I found many (like MANY) weird transfers to the same exchanges, between translators and moderators

As one of the LMs, I fully support providing a list with names of LMs/Translators who are responsible for such behavior, followed by detailed check of their accounts in search for evidence.

In case such accusations turn out to be true and proven, those people should be immediately suspended from their positions.

Thanks as well for not getting it in wrong way, I'm just trying to do the right thing. I'm not actually want to accuse anyone but make things more transparent to be able to increase the level of trust.

Can you DM me the names of the translators/moderators via Discord?

Sure thing, after I compiled the whole list. I'll share it with anyone interested..