The Truth about Truth

in #truth8 years ago

I was discussing with someone the other day why two people (or more) can both be telling the truth and both think the other is not. I was trying to explain how this works and I thought perhaps it would be better to make a post about it. I write a lot about perspective and trying to see more of the truth than what I believe a lot, so I thought perhaps this could help others. The thing about truth is that it is actually subjective. Truth and facts are not the same thing. Disagreements about truth and lies are not the same thing. Just because you don't agree with someone or think they are a liar doesn't actually make them so and I'll show you how I view truth visually and perhaps this could help some users out there. If you have heard via the news that we are in the "post truth" era, perhaps it's actually more correct than you think.

Every individual has what they know to be true and what they don't know to be true. Just because they know something to be true, doesn't automatically make what they don't know to be true a known untruth. For example, Bob likes apples. You know Bob like's apples and I know for a fact that Bob doesn't like apples. We are both in our own minds telling the other person something we both know to be true. Adding perspective and context would explain why this is the case. You know that Bob like's red apples because you see him eat them regularly. I on the other hand offered Bob a green apple multiple times and he always declined and made a disgusted face at my apple. We both know part of the truth and not the whole truth.

This problem compounds exponentially when you add in other factors. Let's say we have three individuals all with some truth about the knowledge of Bob's like or dislike for apples. All of these truths are varying pieces to a large puzzle that make up the whole truth about Bob's apple appetite. There is more to it still though, what if one of the individuals with a perspective of truth is also colorblind and one hasn't spoken to Bob since he was a child. This is where synchronicity comes into play. At different points and time things are more or less true than at other times. Perhaps Bob didn't like apples as a child or due to one's color blindness the actual color of the apple was mistaken. Bob's tastes change over time. There are countless variables that make up the whole truth and assuming we know the whole truth because we know our truth does not make us more right or wrong than another.

The easiest way I could sum it up would be that the pie chart I showed is actually a sphere. The sphere encompasses everyone and everything that could have ever interacted with Bob and have a piece of the puzzle as to his particular tastes or desires related to apples. Those segments are also of different density because they are more or less relevant due to synchronicity. I wouldn't ask someone from 20 years ago that doesn't even remember who Bob is about the type of apple he saw Bob eat, but that doesn't mean that it isn't a possible source of information. I also wouldn't ask someone that is going to meet Bob next week at the grocery store what type of Apple he thinks Bob will purchase because it doesn't take into account numerous factors plus it hasn't technically happened yet for that individual. Who knows, perhaps Bob dies before ever getting to the store to buy that apple and someone that never meets Bob now has an opinion about his apple preference. The point of all of this is that just because you know something to be true and perceive it as conflicting with what someone else knows to be true doesn't automatically make you right.

You notice how truth in this case is also not coming from the only source that is relevant at the exact space and time we need to know? If Bob isn't the one telling you his truth, your truth about Bob can never be close to the whole truth. Perspective. Namaste.

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Mind blown from that. Bob is Boss.

Sorry I remembered I was a quantum physicist and trying to explain things that seem undefinable to beings that can't comprehend them. :P

That sounds about right LOL

Bob like apple but he doesnt know what effect from it.

I feel so in sync with your post. I am glad someone else thinks about this too and expresses it.

And then maybe Bob really doesn't like red apples but eats them because he thinks they are healthy.

Maybe Bob doesn't even exist and we just made him up to distract people about something else entirely.

If that was true, how would Alice and Bob communicate? Read any book on cryptography and you will know that both Alice and Bob are real.

Maybe Alice is Bob.

Maybe Bob is the apple and he eats himself out of guilt.

What's an apple?

Only the apple knows. We are merely observers.

What about the unknown unknowns!?!

Triangulate to find the truth! And not like some Illuminati pyramid.

Like the chicken and egg, dinosaurs had eggs before chickens existed so the egg came first. Observation came first but it’s a cycle.

By our observations we’d never know about radio to radiation except by observations with theories that get proved, solidified and are adapted as extra-sensory awareness that is then observed an further theorized upon.

Corporate news, conspiracy news, infiltrator news, fake news, truther news, well meaning but often mixed up news, are all perspectives that when processed logically can triangulate well and lead to some truths as the Corbett Report often illustrates.

Nature AND nurture, parents and school and community, genetics and epigenetics and dynamical genetics. Balance is the key. Koyaanisqatsi means “life out of balance”. We’re on the edge of the greatest extinction ever known!

We need a revolution of the mind and openness, transparency, and de-privatized proprietary knowledge, back in the sciences, education, media, politics, banking, corporations, society, and the world at large or we will drown in all of the toxic secrets we can’t even see coming.

The truth is secret.

The truth is waiting for you to find it.

Excellent buddy! Thank you!

THE DAY I MET THE QUEEN, MANDELA & PRESIDENT OBAMA@clayboyn Thanks for sharing this and thanks for your upvote on my recent post entitled:

I like this article. I think it points out a lot of the misunderstanding we have these days, especially when it comes to politics. I don't think there are as many individuals lying out there as there are individuals who simply perceive different truths.Lack of information, differing opinions and circumstances lead to their being many different ideas and opinions accepted as truth, just as you pointed out. This is why people, especially those in the media or those who are responsible for the spread of information, need to learn to do their due diligence and investigate what they perceive to be true in order to fully discover the "real" truth.

The media and agendas, sigh...

Lol the media is another complicated matter altogether...

I love this post. It is well written, has humor and is thought provoking. Thanks for posting. :D

I'm glad you liked it. :)

The only reason people lie is because they don't want someone to know the truth for various reasons. Lie as a word, is really too vague. Calling someone a liar is meaningless, because everyone is a liar. No exceptions (that I've ever ran across). If someone said they were not a liar and was truthful, they would be isolated and socially inept. Lying is the only personal filter left to us which cannot always be breached.


This can get really deep but it's a very interesting post! I believe that even though truth and fact are similar, they can be slightly different in nature. It's a profound topic and that's the truth and a fact , too! :)@clayboyn


We all see things from our different perspectives.
Resteeming this now.
Thanks for sharing.@clayboyn, this is a very nice post.

'..Truth and facts are not the same thing.. "

I agree fully with you
I like this article

Many individuals lying and not easy to discover the "real" truth.
Thanks for sharing

I like this. This is an excellent post. No matter how assured we are of our perspective on things, it is always a benefit to be open to information that conflicts with what we perceive to be true. I'd just caution that any information we are presented with should be explored; a conflicting truth claim may well appear to be valid on its face, but if it collapses upon further scrutiny, it ceases to be a valid truth claim and thus should not be adopted.

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