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RE: TRON (TRX) Head & Shoulders Spotted for $0.178 Target potential

in #tron7 years ago

Would love to get people’s civilised opinion about this viewpoint. I especially beseech Haejin to please indicate what you feel as I believe there is a point which at least deserves the courtesy of being addressed.

The thing with elliot wave is that it’s correct as long as it’s correct. However, according to elliot wave everything will just keep going up because a correction is just a wave 2 or 4 of a larger trend.

You can keep on projecting larger and larger trends with no end. Any drops will just fall under a larger trend and will be projected to go up further after that.

However, this doesn’t reflect the real world unfortunately, as it ignores the reality that projects, stocks and assets can fail outright. If elliot wave was used on all Dotcom stock companies they should all be huge right now. The reality is things fail in the real world and this is fundamental. Elliot wave would have projected Bitconnect to keep rising and rising, and Haejin recently posted a projection that bitconnect was in wave 1 or a higher degree trend which would see it hitting all time highs. However, the fundamentals blew through that as bitconnect is now defunct and has been uncovered as a ponzi. It seems that sole reliance on elliott without fundamentals can blind people to reality.

In the long run what affects price is the fundamentals. Whether the project will stay afloat or not. And whether it will actually be something people want to use or not. The longer the timeframe, the more elliott waves are likely to fail as no one can predict events which would seriously fundamentally hurt any investment. For example, if there was a 3rd world war. The longer you project out, the more fundamental variables potentially affect price. Who’s to say there won’t be a catastrophe which destroys the internet or some fundamental change in the world order in the future? Im just using these as extreme examples obviously and not saying they’re likely in the near future but just illustrating that the further out we go, the less we are able to predict what will happen.

Elliott may be good for predicting price pathways in the short term, especially in a speculative market such as crypto, which is fuelled largely by sentiment. However, I feel it may be slightly irresponsible when Haejin makes extremely long term projections like the projection of Bitshares to hit $352 on a logarithmic scale and pushing it to his followers. It seems very clickbaity to give out such long term projections because it’s clear they have extremely reduced accuracy for the long term and I think most people can understand that in the long term fundamentals do in fact matter.

For further clarity let me use the example of a theoretical ball being throw which never stops rolling. I can predict with almost certainty what will happen to the ball’s pathway as it leaves my hand and in the first 1m of it’s travel. I can predict with good likelihood even what will happen to it 20m down the track. But as it travels further, I become less and less able to predict it’s pathway. The higher the likelihood of something coming along unexpectedly to change it’s course. What if a strong breeze suddenly starts and blows it off course or a dog comes over and takes it away.

These are just my musings and logical reasonings. Also note I’ve used neutral language such as “it seems” and “may”. Im not absolutely asserting or accusing anyone of anything. Please dont come with comments like if you don’t like it then just leave which add nothing to a discussion. Because i can equally say the same to you. If you dont like my comment you have the choice to ignore it. But that doesnt mean i should not be able to express a certain viewpoint does it? This is after all not a dictatorship, I hope.

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EW or any form of TA is a tool. It's important to use the right tool for the job at hand. At this point in time the crypto market is in its infancy and from what I've seen and read, interest by a larger audience is growing, not shrinking. This tells me that there will likely be much more capital flowing into crypto and therefore prices will likely rise from this point. In this type of market, EW seems to me to be a valid method to help determine the probable price pathway. Also, if you have been following Haejin for a while you will know that he uses a combination of chart patterns and EW. Chart patterns are much more effective a determining the likely direction of price. Once you have that, EW helps show where you are in the cycle.

As you said, the further forward in time that you go, the more unreliable the forecast. Haejin has written an essay on this topic.
https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@haejin/essay-why-is-time-projection-so-difficult-for-technical-analysts

Your point about BitConnect is certainly valid and underscores the importance of having a diversified portfolio. A subject which Haejin recently posted about.

In life and in TA, people want to have a guru, often so that they don't need to take personal responsibility for their decisions. Haejin is providing valuable insights into how the market functions and has also made recommendations which have performed well.

Elliot Waves is not a tool you use solely on its own, but combine it with other tools and signals. I mostly use EW based on current trend.

In a downward trend it will be opposite of an upwards, you keep getting lower lows in waves too. The trend is your friend, also counting the waves.
Trend direction changes can be spotted counting subwaves but I think a lot of experience is needed to act correctly in these situations, as we tend to seek our most used patterns first.

Also combine the EW with volume and macd for direction changes, and finishing of waves and patterns. With Elliot waves, trend, volume and macd your predictions can be pretty accurate.

The corrections can take a lot of directions, and 36 of them are described with EW. The question is picking the right one, also need practice and experience to do. And practice opportunities in downward trends are scarce in crypto nowadays.

You cannot just do a wave analysis for the next 6 months and trade by that chart over time. EW predicts price moves ahead, and for precision and confirmation you need also the latest price moves in your analysis. It is when you update the charts you can get those AHA moments where you spot the trend change.

@thedolphin yes, and haejinwas completely unable to spot the trend reversal. In fact, he was calling for ATHs until the evidence was bleeding obvious it had turned bearish. Then he changed his opinion. So much later than most analysts.Aways compare to others.

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We do not see any reasons why should anyone buy TRON apart of speculation only. Very dangerous asset to HODL.

Not as dangerous as most other altcoins

You can always look away and keep an eye on the charts and news yourself , you don’t have to read or believe anything, who told you to read Haejin post , why do you read it again and again because it’s Effin making you money you cheap nickel

All that crap and no sense, didn’t help in any way at all , I mean Hawkins voice alone is calming enough , you should go back to your cave

"However, according to elliot wave everything will just keep going up because a correction is just a wave 2 or 4 of a larger trend".

Nope.

Tron is over-hyped crypto in my opinion. Although they're trying so hard to push it.. Still, I don't see the pratcicality for this coin as compared to other ones already making money (I.E. NEO, WABI, BNB, etc.)

@haejin why are you downvoting my comment. Im neither being rude nor unreasonable. Are you afraid of people speaking the truth? A real man doesnt silence his critics but answers them.

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