You say that 'evil actors have no religion' so one may ask you if Satan is a religious figure? If he is then which religion do you speak of that eludes to innocence in religion? A precise answer would be welcome. Plain English and plain meanings.
- Rhomphaeam
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I don't want to be perfect in English. In my opinion no one belongs to any religion, everyone belongs to a belief. So we have to stand strong to defeat the evil 😈 beliefs. Stay blessed.
Thanks for your reply.
The reason I asked my question was because your original comments alluded to your present reply. It concerns me that we have been drawn into a way of commenting on social media that reduces things to mere ideas. All ideas are no more than philosophy until we act on them. Then they become material substance in our own lives and the lives of others when we act against others. I asked about Satan simply because that character appears in Judaism, Christianity and Islam. So if one were to be rational one would have to assert (from your answer) that Satan (Iblis) does not form part of anyones belief and that he is therefore a mere idea that one can play with as one feels inclined. Islam is no mere religion and much more than a set of ideas. It is undoubted and real.
Perhaps I should say that your own position is essentially philosophical, and in religious parlance it is polytheistic or pagan. Whereas Judaism, Christianity and Islam reject that universal materialistic pantheon of good and evil to be held as a mere choice - and instead assert consequences of choice as indicators of ones own intentions. Philosophy cannot change religious belief.
Is Satan on the same side as those who choose good? Or is he by his name (God's opponent) not evil? Belief and religion are the same thing when viewed from causality and Satan is no mere man.
Well its all a little meaningless no doubt, but I just wanted to make a simple point expressed as a question, and your answer is that belief trumps religion.
If 'no one belongs to any religion, [and] everyone belongs to a belief' [and] So we have to stand strong to defeat the evil' then there is no religion and and no evil in belief. So my dear friend is Satan an actor in anyones beliefs? Shalom.
- Rhomphaeam
First of all i want to appreciate you for this extended conversation.
Genuinely speaking i know nothing about the Satan and Satanism and i don't believe either. I know one thing and in my opinion I've formed this pattern by general observation of life and analysing practical aspects, and that Idea is, life runs on the Cycle Of Dualism and Human Beings have both Positive (Good) and Negative (Evil) attributes. Some human beings feed to positivity and some negativity and if i have to put it in simple words then i will call it as Battle Of Good And Evil. Stay blessed.
In the Christian faith good and evil (when centred as a perception of individuals) is certainly an interesting way to see things. Your 'dualism' may be a little like that. Luke 11:3 and Matthew 7:11 seem to speak into your point. When I share with my Christian friends a verse in the bible which speaks about parents being evil but doing good things they are somewhat uncomfortable. So I ask them if they object to Jesus telling a large crowd that they can do good things. The smart ones just stay silent because the same Jesus also called the same large crown, evil first. Your dualism is of course a philosophy and like all philosophy there are no absolutes. In Islam that absolute definition of evil is removed from individuals lives and becomes a demand to submit to Allah and his prophet. Everything arising from that in experience of that submission is Shari'ah. So Islam is practical too - even to the extent that individuals' actions are measured by submission and not by practical effect. Jesus threw that onto its head by asserting a condition of the individual and still seeing that those 'evil' individuals can do good things. Positive and negative as moral or practical perceptions are by definition relative. I agree that when viewed practically people can be seen to both do positive and negative things (if we agree that basic human decency is desirable and that decency means feeding your children or treating others respectfully).
Hey hoy - religion is a gall of bitterness - but Islam is a poisonous cup. Shalom my friend.
- Rhomphaeam
I don't Judge any Religion because i don't have complete Knowledge. I believe that it's all depends on Individuals which path they pursue. Stay blessed.