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RE: Just another day on Steemit, why I feel helpless.

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The trending page has always been a shithole of circle upvoting. At least since September, when I joined.
And now new users with bought upvotes get to the top.
I don't see anything wrong there.
Currently #1 is an advertisment for smartsteem. Not sure, how that is better.
And no one complains about that.

It feels, they are envious, because the bot owners make some money and they don't.

Problem is, you are famous!
:)

And to top that, you are the bot owner.
What bot owner else are known?
None.
You stick your head out and everybody aims for you.

Sorry, but at least now you have the wished for reddit drama going on here:(

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What is the problem with smartsteem @isnochys? ;)

Do we offer legitimate services that give users amazing ROI? Yes
Do we produce poor quality posts? No
Do we promote our posts excessively? No
Do we scam our users? No


All of that and more does the infamous @dobartim aka @flysky.

I personally can't judge if a post deserves to be on trending as everything is relative. But there is a huge difference in promoting a shady business and promoting a legitimate business.

Well, @randowhale is owned by @berniesanders. That's pretty well known at this point thanks to the eternal drama between him and @haejin.

true, but who would complain to @berniesanders?;)

Tons.
I mean that literally. I'm positive if you added up the weights of all the people complaining about @berniesanders it would be multiple tons.

That said, this is a social network. Whenever more than ten people get together drama happens.

Not about, to @berniesanders . About @randowhale
:)

even about @randowhale, you should have seen @haejin crying about rando a while ago :))

Yeah, that is true. But crying babies do not count;)

I know, I am back paddling...:))

@dobartim is the founder of a company called PXDS. Both authors of the mentioned two trending posts also are in it:

http://www.canada.pxds.com/contact/ourNetwork.php

@dobartim himself is seemingly trying to build a similar marketing-business on base of Steemit:

https://steemit.com/steemitschool/@dobartim/steemit-school-school-of-life-combined-with-blockchain-technology-customer-witness-day-5

Does anyone know whether he is allowed to use the Steemit-Logo for this? As far as I know, it is under Copyright?

I am not sure, if this can be called just advertisement.

I am sure he isn't allowed to use the logo, they are very protective of the new logo and haven't authorized anyone to use it (as far as I know) because the marketing team isn't ready yet.

Thanks for your reply. They should really care about it. Wrong people using it will reflect badly on Steemit itself.

I don't see any difference from all the other trending posts.
Self advertisment, Steem Schools and Universities.
Personal Trainer, VLOGs, etc.
Marketing everywhere, Steemit is an advertisment platform.

Okay, then maybe I am wrong, because I thought it was a blogging-platform.

Really when there is money involved like this everything is an advert

I made the same mistake in the beginning :(
but if there is some plagiarism just report it to the steemcleaners

I already reported it. I can't believe that he is allowed to use the Steemit-Logo for his shady business. It makes him look like someone from Steemit.Inc.

Blogging is advertising, either a product or an idea.

I want to read blogs about ideas. Not about products. Already had that on Facebook. But the posts about products are shorter there. So if Steemit develops in this way, it will be better to return to Facebook.

I have to talk here.

The service offered by smartsteem is top Quality, but that is besides the point.

To have it on top IS better because You can see it is advertising.

The other two? One is garbage. The other is fraud. And the Two of them try to pass as legit. Plain and simple.

I still think we need another frontend. Witness-stuff belongs in an area for witnesses. Developers-stuff in an area for developers. News from Steemit.Inc in a news-area. Promoted posts under promoted. Why not highlighting bot-promoted posts with a different colour? So everyone can see at first sight it is promoted.

Thats actually a great idea. But it would finish the "no ads" kinda publicity steemit has right now. Even if that is only a half truth.

That this is only a half true or at least developing this way... that's the reason for waving flags here! (I did not flag @themarkymark, I hate flagging, but I guess you understand what I mean.) My opinion about it isn't extreme. I just want a solution that calms down the fighting. And I think there could be solutions.

Oh, indeed. I think this is actually an interesting proposal: https://steemit.com/steemit/@yabapmatt/what-if-we-got-rid-of-the-trending-page

We should get rid of the whole interface. It doesn't reflect a fast growing community anymore. It was okay, when the community was small. It doesn't fit anymore.