The way to get VIP tokens directly moving forward is to convert VIVA to VIP 1 to 1. We don't have that capability yet but it is being worked on. Another way to get VIP is to purchase a VTR on the market and then hold it for three months. At the end of that time VTR will convert into VIP. New VTRs were just released August 1st, and they will convert to VIP on November 1st. The VTRs which converted at the end of July did so at a rate of 800 VIP per VTR. We don't know how much the current ones will convert for; it depends on how much demand for VIVA there is. VTRs currently are selling for just over 100 VIVA.