Transparency: The downfall of centralized economies

in #thoughts6 years ago

In a session today I was explaining my thoughts on debt and value to a client as far as printing money is concerned. The more I spoke through it, the more obvious the scam of it became in regards to how our conditioning to value the token of money outweighs what that token represents, what is real.

What this means is that the token can be printed to buy what is real in an endless cycle of debt until what is owed exceeds the value of all things that are real. It can never be paid back, no matter what. So they print more. The only things that can actually hold value is what is real and, the only things that can represent that value is a token that can't be created through increasing debt.

The other day @exyle posted about a Drug Wars bug that allowed him to create limitless resources. Being a terrible criminal, he made it known to the devs and they patched it, but what if he hadn't told them?

Let's say that still a terrible criminal driven by greed, he kept producing resources at no cost at a very fast rate to control the entire game and make it impossible for anyone else to close the gap, would be keep playing and, how long til he was caught?

But, if he was smarter and instead of being obviously greedy he diversified his holdings and the process across a range of accounts that each bumped themselves up slowly using the glitch, how long would he be able to milk the system? People wouldn't suspect foul play as there are accounts (his) that are earning and getting a return and they would feel they are in with a chance. Distributing the process across multiple points lowers the chance of detection while giving many points to extract value from even more points.

Now, back to the printing of money, this is essentially what the banks are doing when they print money through debt creation and interest rates except, we as consumers don't really feel the extent of it as there are many distributed banks and we only have contact with a narrow band of them. Eventually though, the same thing happens as they have traded a token (money) that costs them absolutely nothing to create for what we have, the real. Like @exyle could have done, the game is rigged in their favour because of our greed.

Our greed? Yes. We are as greedy as they are which is why they can offer us something that is valueless and watch as we stack them up like squirrels stacking rocks for the winter, thinking they are acorns. When the time comes to eat however, what we valued so much is inedible because, it is a token that represents what is - except, it no longer does.

Hoarding money itself is a process of futility because that money will eventually devalue or, will no longer be considered tradeable for the things that are valuable. In an extreme example, imagine if you have a million dollars and I have a million dollars worth of canned food and war breaks out. Can your million dollars buy my canned food? No, but you might be able to buy a small portion of it with your house, that gold you have tucked away or, Bitcoin, Steem, Monero...

It doesn't really matter what you offer but it has to be something that is in short supply and others are willing to take it as a token that represents something real. When my father was a child, cigarette packets were traded in war time because, they couldn't be reproduced and were in short supply. Just the empty packet was enough. My father also collected stamps that likely would be pretty valuable now if he had held.

When it comes to tradability and vale it comes down to how reproducible something is. No one would mind owning Da Vinci's Mona Lisa but, how many people will value a poster of the Mona Lisa at the same level? This is where crypto tokenization is going to beat fiat hands down and the ones that are able to control inflation accurately and transparently is very important. 21,000,000 Bitcoin will be mined, past that, what happens?

On Steem, there is an inflation pool that will drop down to 1% inflation per year in about 2035. That means that there is a steady known rate of inflation and therefore can be factored into current and future calculations. It is also why increasing the inflation rate for funding the Steem.DAO is a silly idea unless, it is going to fast-track to getting to that 1% (currently 8.5%) per year. The inflation rate of Steem needs to be trusted. SBD exchange for STEEM value is an issue perhaps.

The problem for fiat is that there is no way to really predict the inflation rate as banks and investment firms in all kinds of ways can affect it in a distributed manner at a global level. The reason it has lasted this long is that for the most part, we are blind to how they do it as we are unable to see the entirety of the network in play. Well, we were blind but technology and information flow is catching up now as we are increasingly better able to track transactions to the point that it will become obvious.

Once it is obvious to the majority of people that @exyle the banks are gaming the system hardcore, do we keep playing? Why would we? Fear of prosecution for not honouring contracts that were made in bad faith? At some point we might have to take the, they can't shoot us all approach and if we do it together, it is done.

However, likely before that happens those who are waking up to the game will start finding other ways to trade. We can already see it happen in the most corrupt and economically broken economies and we see the people trading with Steem. Venezuela is a good example where locals are using crypto currencies to bypass the broken economics of their centralized currency.

The thing with blockchains is that they are not only ledgers that track all transactions, the ones that are carrying currencies should be transparent ledgers. This means that if by some way @exyle does find a way to print more of the resource, it can be detected easily, but it isn't very easy to just print more Steem is it? While it is possible, a whole lot of people have to agree to it and while they agree, it is all publicly available information meaning, no one else needs to stay.

But for a moment, let's consider if I was able to print more Steem on the sly and inject it into the ecosystem through various accounts that invest into all kinds of applications and funds all kinds of development to own. Where does it lead? To resource centralization.

This is where the world is now as we have been convinced to trade our valuable assets for tokens that is in endless supply and can be created by the very people who are buying up our assets. In the end, we have pile of paper, they have everything else. Do you think that at that point, they are going to want any of that paper back?

What will they want for their canned food?

Taraz
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Interest on loans is a major contributing factor, on the governmental scale and the personal banking scale. Because only the money for the loan is produced and not the money to pay back the interest. With each new loan taken out, and even with each friend lending another money and asking for more back, and even with the pawning of jewellery and other items that we must then pay upwards of the value to recover - each of these things and many more put a strangle hold on the money supply and force more people into poverty.

While there is of course a set amount of bitcoin that will ever be created, with additions like the lightning network and whatever else may come in future, and when fiat is gone and everything turns to digital, I wonder what effect interest on loans will have on the money supply? The moment bitcoin starts getting loaned out at interest on a large scale then we will notice that that while there is only x amount of million worth of bitcoin in circulation, there is x amount + 10 million BTC owed in debt. The difference will be that printing more money won't be a viable option to combat the problem, so I wonder what state the world will be left in at that point. Perhaps the printing of money will be replaced by the minting of new tokens that represent debt. So I wonder whether anything at all will change other than the fact that there will now be a record of every transaction everyone will ever make.

each of these things and many more put a strangle hold on the money supply and force more people into poverty.

Yep, it is a well thought out cycle that continually crushes.

The moment bitcoin starts getting loaned out at interest on a large scale then we will notice that that while there is only x amount of million worth of bitcoin in circulation, there is x amount + 10 million BTC owed in debt.

If you don't hold the keys, the Bitcoin isn't yours.

Some really good thoughts here... pondering several things, as I read this.

In many ways, I think the longevity of fiat can be attributed to the perception (not reality, perception) that "we don't have choice." A lot of people don't trust banks, or the banking system... "... but we don't really have another option, DO we?"

A few are perhaps a little more "adventurous" and decide to hedge with gold and silver coins.

Like your dad, I collected/collect old stamps... and even though it's a "collectible in decline," there have been many times when those small pieces of paper have been the best investment I have had. And what's true of them is part of what you are driving at here: They were made in the 1800's and there are only so many. And as long as there is a collector base that agrees on the concepts of "scarcity" and "desirability," they are excellent stores of value.

But meanwhile... I'm not going to say that I "don't have a choice," but FACT remains that I need to pay $5,500 in property taxes, and to do so... I have to use the fiat banking system, currently including the conversion of some of my Steem to fiat, and selling some of my old stamps.

I'm not entirely sure where "greed" and basic human nature plays into this... seems that no matter what sort of idealism may create a system for people to use, there are always going to be those trying to find exploits to gain for themselves outside the generally accepted channels... and hence "transparency" may actually be the single MOST important attribute, going forward. And frankly... part of what I like about it is that it leaves people as free to cheat as they want but with the caveat that their nefarious activities will be visible to everyone.

Some really good thoughts here... pondering several things, as I read this.

I can never attest to the accuracy of my thoughts but, perhaps that is not the point of thinking.

In many ways, I think the longevity of fiat can be attributed to the perception (not reality, perception) that "we don't have choice." A lot of people don't trust banks, or the banking system... "... but we don't really have another option, DO we?"

There is always a choice but the risks are so immense if only a few take the leap. It is going to get interesting because the groundswell has started already, it just is imperceptible to most.

seems that no matter what sort of idealism may create a system for people to use, there are always going to be those trying to find exploits to gain for themselves outside the generally accepted channels

Perhaps this is the driver of innovation and growth as a species, a game of cat and mouse that never ends.

part of what I like about it is that it leaves people as free to cheat as they want but with the caveat that their nefarious activities will be visible to everyone.

It creates a new social fabric that will be loose at first but tighten to create a smooth weave. Given the chance.

Do you think that at that point, they are going to want any of that paper back?

That was an interesting animation. I wonder which role I'd be in :D

Well my friend. Such as the world is going, it seems already like too easy for us to change roles and places all the time. };)

This is why I talk about the money wars. He who controls the idea of what has value, controls that much of the world.

You’ve got your “it’s only real if I can touch it” precious metals folks and a whole culture that goes with that. You’ve got your crypto valuing ideas and solutions like decentralized, censorship resistant currency. Those values also extend beyond just the currency. And then you have your currently dominant culture of money you describe so well in this post.

I think it best to have some of all their money, because we don’t know which is going to have the upper hand at any given point in time.

I think it best to have some of all their money, because we don’t know which is going to have the upper hand at any given point in time.

Distribution of value to hedge the bets is something I have to start doing more of as 'at any given point in time' is much too risky, especially in crypto.

The last decade or so has seen the rise of the digital nomad. Photogenic people who travel and instagram it, eg @toocurious (travel blog - here -
They live on the cheap and get by on advertising revenue.
One massive upside is the freedom to go wherever conditions are best.
Governments around the world have become really good at convincing people to stay put.
Occupational licensing and wealth confiscation at the border work together to make a move abroad untenable; meaning a low standard of competition for citizens, between countries.
As crypto-nomads start earning and spending in global currencies like STEEM, countries will need to compete with each other to attract and retain their citizens.

Governments around the world have become really good at convincing people to stay put.

I used this example in a class this morning. If all your wealth was transportable in 3 seconds anywhere in the world, would you stay in a war zone?

As crypto-nomads start earning and spending in global currencies like STEEM, countries will need to compete with each other to attract and retain their citizens.

I used this too. Once that wealth is mobile it means that the countries have to look after it. Imagine if in 1938 The Jewish in Germany had all of their wealth in Bitcoin, would the Nazis have killed them knowing all that wealth would be out of their reach? It is hard to carry paintings and pianos, easy to transfer digital wealth. Even gold only travels so well on foot and, there are risks lugging it. Mobility is opportunity and for those who need people to stay still, risk.

I wasn't aware of the glitch with Drug wars. Just shows you what type of person Exyle is. How many others would have just kept quiet and milked it for a week or two or longer to become invincible. I like it when you see the true colors of peoples characters.

@exyle is the gentle Man-Bear. I have seen full-grown grizzlies that are smaller than him.

Worth less than the paper it’s printed on continues to come to mind. I think this is a reason why the use of plastic cards and digital apps to transfer money have been used more as it would not allow them to see the similarities with hyperinflation where people woukd transact with wheelbarrels! It is the fascade controlled by centralization.

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it would not allow them to see the similarities with hyperinflation where people woukd transact with wheelbarrels!

Yep, it also disconnects people from the feel of what they are spending and therefore, the debt they themselves are racking up.

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