Ships disappear - indeed they do - if you get that bit all the rest perplexes me...
It wasn't a question it was a statement - I live in New Zealand and have a potentially clear view out the window to Antarctica if it was possible to see that far.
That photo you just posted shows the earth's curvature - are you trying to argue now or just be confusing? (that is a question)
you ignored the rest of the first sentence, for some reason. same reason you can't see all the way to antarctica from nz, the limits of our perception and the way light behaves, especially over water.
how does the photo show earth's curvature? it shows a flat or even upturned horizon! as it happens, it's clearly barrel lens distortion when you look at the shape of the clouds.
shall i show you some more high altitude photographs?
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Is it true that some Flat Earthers Now Think The Earth Is Shaped Like A Donut?
Yes I am mocking the idea - but no flat earther has ever provided any evidence - OF ANYTHING! - and I'm a conspiracy researcher - NASA, and the moon landing are total bullshit - but so is flat earth!
“Light bends and follows the curvature of the torus, making the hole ‘unseeable.’” The theory raises a lot of questions about how gravity would work, which Varaug explains with a sugary, not completely cogent metaphor. “Imagine a donut. Imagine a jam donut. Gravity acts towards the jam.”
'no flat earther has ever provided any evidence - OF ANYTHING! '
this as a reply to being shown THREE high altitude real photographs of a perfectly flat horizon.
if you are as self-aware as you think you are, you should notice your responses to actual evidence and bothersome questions in this short debate. they are not actual logical sequitur responses in any way.
you have either ignored the points completely or changed the subject to humour/ generalisations.
you should notice that. not that you replied with the famous experiment everyone knows about which proves the earth is in motion, or the one that proves gravity exists as a force (and not just an effect,) or why the most miniscule movements of a massive telescope over a period of six months prove the stars really ARE moving relative each other, honest, etc. but instead you tried to ignore those problematic questions and annoying little obvious proofs that the opposite of what you have been led to believe is true all of your life is actually a massive mindfucking deception on most of the population and then what that means..
but if you're starting from the point of view the official (tm) model of the flat earth is that non sense flat disc pizza with an ice wall and it also bears little resemblance to reality as well then we agree:
the third problem with the ball should get your curiosity twitching, shouldn't it?
that picture of the ball earth which was everywhere on everything for 30 years was supposed to have been taken by apollo 17 in 1972 on its way back from the moon. if you know moon missions were faked, then this image must be fake, but yet it has been used to convince billions, especially those born between 1960 and today, that this is what earth looks like, even though it is NOT anyone's personal every day experience.
we experience a big stationary lumpy plane, some times we can see for a hundred miles, sometimes only five feet, depends on the weather and terrain. those who live in japan, australia, russia, africa, europe, the americas, all experience the same thing. no one has ever reported motion and no one lives vertically, or upside down.
what they TELL us and what we experience for ourselves are two entirely different things. that should also get you thinking.
There is certainly a bunch of fake stuff going on like those Apollo photos - BUT - and here is the thing - your photos don't prove anything either - and saying that nobody lives upside down is not very high end :)
Now you have posted a picture of two models you are saying don't work, and again not provided your one that does.
If you can't provide any solid evidence, at least outline your own theory...
Every time I get into flat earth online this is the pattern that plays out!
what is the point in discussing what the model might be until you know it is definitely not a ball?
and yes, the photos prove that even at very high altitudes, there is no curvature to the horizon. the fact that we can often see far further (cities, islands, mountains) than the expected curve of a 3959 mile radius ball should allow is more proof we don't live on a ball.
if you know about the banking and political hidden hands at work, the secret societies etc, you might like this presentation:
Dude you are a lolfest - that video is TWO HOURS LONG - you don't seriously think I'm going to watch that do you? - for some reason flat earthers love to post insanely long videos - I wonder why? - could it be so you can say I didn't watch it? - of course I frigging didn't - I do have a degree in geography though - they only take three years so are probably quicker than watching all the flat earth videos on youtub
Yes NASA is total bullshit but why do you think your flat pics are any more real than the moon landing pics? - they are all fake...
i think tycho brahe precedes the oss mate.
so it takes 3 years to study geography but you won't spend two hours discovering why the shape of the earth is not what you have been told, redefining your entire philosophical outlook/ world view if true?
notice now how you simply refuse to look at hard evidence, connecting what you already know with the lie that we're on a spinning ball. i posted it specially, for you, because you'd get it.
but don't whatever, don't reply either way, you're not willing or able to break the chains. don't look, we're obviously stupid and don't know anything we're talking about having studied it for five years.