Out of body experience ( my spiritual friend , scientific view and neurologist story )

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 Astral projection , soul travel , spirit walking , near sleep and near death experience all are fancy name for out of body experience witch quite interesting to religious , spiritual and science people .


Stories has been told  
Stories about out of body experience spread around internet like a bad news , many claim that they have their own body float in the air , they think that they have other form than physical form , most who claim to have this experience was going through special circumstances like car accident , surgical procedure and sever pain situation . On the other hand there is some geek claim that they have it on daily basis . When first time i hear about this i thought right away about my friend who was telling me for years that he was going through an ascending transaction or something like that .  

 


 My spiritual friend  
He is the type of person talk so little if he talk at all , we rose up together , he always care about different things than we do as a kids , when we care about toys and playing he was setting with older people asking about life and death , he always seems to live in his own world , in high school he was telling me that he is experiencing something a dream looks so real when he can see his room and all home fro other dimension before going to deep sleep, i thought he was imaging stuff because he always has a broad strange imagination any way he is not the type of person that lay a lot but he have his imagination , some time he challenge my world realistic view .

 What science have to say about this ?
First response for scientific community about this is term it as out of body illusion , after while some research are conducted and finally science can say something clear about it .
Many research try to explain an OBEs in a scientific , most of them share the same result , in one of them published by  Frontiers of Human Neuroscience  a research using functional magnetic resonance imaging or functional MRI .

   this picture only to give you a clue how fMRI work



They found that there is decrease in signals at the visual cortex significantly ( part responsible of seeing through your eyes  ) and increase activity I area responsible of kinesthetic imagery which is the part that make us feel our body in relation to the world , that include imaginary projection of our body image .
Till now in the eyes of  Neurocsintists and psychologists it is a  dissociative experiences happened because of psychological and neurological trigger and not fully understood . In fact some neurologist think that it is a type of hallucination triggered by some neurological mechanism .     

At the end
- It is a real scientific documented phenomena  , but OBEs is real only as perception nothing more , I mean it all happened in your conscious .
- No prove that you can really see or change anything while you in OBEs , simply because the all picture is a projection from your mind  
- OBEs is an interesting topic could uncover many mystery regarding sleep , dreams and death if studied heavily .   

Neurologist had a stork & OBEs , what a coincidence !
Here I will share an interesting video about a neurologist Jill Bolte Taylor , that happen to experience an OBEs while having a stroke ( CVA ) , in fact it is a very interesting story about how neurological system work  , enjoy        

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  I know it , after I finish writing this blog then read it , I found that it rise more question than providing answer , but it worth writing about , don't you think ?  

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This is funny, thanks for sharing.

I have been practicing what you call out of body experiences since I was a 4 year old kid. This can be triggered with multiple causes. One could say it is only in one's imagination, but the fact is that it might be for some but not always. As for me, how often have I surprised people telling them what they were doing in the room or in their homes while my body was snoring on the bed! Too many to recount. I actually know when my body is asleep and I also know where I am outside of my body travelling here and there. This is quite simple and you can train for it quite easily too. Do you want to learn to do this consciously yourself? I can help you, have a great day, keep your smile too and namaste :)

That is really interesting @eric-boucher
First i want to thank you for your valuable input , having you as a person who already experience this make me more interested in this phenomena , i was waiting to read what people think about this , blog posted before 20 hours , i thought there will be no good discussion about then i saw your comment , i didn't expect a nice brave response from one did that before .
If yo allowed me , i want to ask some questions :
what it look like compare to reality & dreaming ?
can you chose at any time to have an OBEs ?
how yo view your self in OBEs , i mean as a body or conscious ?
how much you can stay in OBEs ?
can you change anything in a physical way ?
is there any side effect ?
please elaborate more about knowing things in your OBEs
Yes i would love to have such experience
Thnx a gain for being here , namaste bro :)

When you consider "reality" from a few years back or even just a few days ago, if not a few hours ago, the status of this reality stands almost on the same grounds as the remembrance of a dream, the longer the time, the closer the dream and "reality" seem to blend. Now, in relation to the moment, the question of what is reality persists and, even after much deliberations on the matter with plenty of physicists, the answer is unanimous. what we usually consider reality is but an illusion in terms of being in a constant state of change, nothing is persistant. So, what is reality then, what persist and has the experience of awareness of that change or the illusion that keeps on moving in front of our mind's eye? Reality is in the eye of the beholder, if one were to hold it... How real is your dream when you are in it and how phantasmagorical is your life when you live it? Somewhere in the in-betweens is a being that has the awareness of it all, if you are to apply any attention and will to it.

In certain conditions, it is actually harder to be in the body than it is to stay within it while in other occasion, it is the exact opposite. The more distraction anharmonic to the frequencies of your being, the least you will be able to. the converse offers the possibility to apply one's consciousness to multiple levels of awareness and so-called realities. As I pointed out in the first reply, there are multiples way to get in OBE that have been used for millennia by all cultures of the world, what were yours? Yet, as human beings, there are also natural doorways that we use like every time on goes to sleep. The action of "falling asleep" is simply the acceleration caused by the disembodying of one's spirit. If you have ever been in a train or a bus in a big traffic jam and all of a sudden one of the train or bus moves, what tells you which one is actually moving? You have to find out by looking at something that is NOT moving in relation to the space you are in, right? same goes for the spirit within relating to what I mentioned in the questioning of reality.

In OBE, you are awareness, nothing else. Mind you, maybe there's ways to imagine a body like you may be able to do when dreaming, I have never tried that one. Yet, as much as there's no actual physical body anymore, there's a feel of spaciousness, infinite though, where gravity doesn't apply, neither time on so most levels. staying in OBE depends on what I was relating to you a bit earlier and how, if the conditions are right, you can stay there for a long time. Long greatly varies on the potentiel for one's soul and body to be in a harmonious location allowing it to take place. Personally, I have stayed out of body for many hours countless times and partly out of body just bit bit less. ;) Many people are experiencing OBE for month, if not years at a time, but they are in very specific location where the vibrational environment and their mediation are in synch.

Your next question "Can you change anything in a physical way?" is quite interesting to me as I have seen many instances of physical changes on many different levels. But, I guess, you are specifically referring to moving object and things of that nature right? One can effect the physical if there's enough energy directed toward it. This way,fro example, you can move inanimate objects such vases, pictures frames, anything really, it is all the same. One can also affect the people that are "awake" and they can feel you. The more awake the person mind, the more affectations you can have and relate to this person on many different sensory levels.

The side effects are simple as this is the way of the spirit, you move toward oneself more deeply, therefore, you become closer to the source of what your are and what everything is made out of. The more you do it, the closer you get to the source. that equates with the closer you are to the source of yourself, the harder it is for one to live in a dualist world, synchronicities arise and oneness takes place.

I tried to understand this sentence "Please elaborate more about knowing things in your OBEs", but I didn't make sense of it. Would you mind rephrasing it in another way?

I hope these few words will entice you to move toward opening the mind and heart, slowing down to feel and make the difference between what is felt and what is actually feeling. Doing so at the end of a long night sleep or a long nap is a very powerful way to get there. stay aware of when you "fall asleep", just relax, just stay aware, nothing more, nothing less...

Enjoy the ride, there's infinite learning to be made from here. All for one and one for all!!! Namaste :)

Thank you for your informative response , you can see me as a reality guy always care only about clear obvious things happening around me and ignore anything else , that attitude reinforced in medical collage by studying medicine witch make me even more solid & practical in term of world view .
Something like OBEs witch documented scientifically & you talk about it like it is as easy as drink some water , that make me feel like i missed some good stuff or actually i know nothing about , seems that life has more to offer my friend , about that question you already answer it indirectly in your last comment .
Thank you again @eric , following you now to read more ,,, Namaste:)

OBE is not as easy as drinking water, but it can become this way with practice. I'm not quite there yet either! In this life, I have been blessed to come across many synchronicities that arose and paved the way for more practice in these terms as well as the encounter of multiple individuals, some of whom became and are still very close friends. I like your wording "missing some good stuff"! It is the case for many to not be aware of such things or to even come to think it is impossible or simply the fruit of the imagination. The mainstream culture surrounding power and money as well as a few other streams, wouldn't the masses to find themselves educated in these realms unless they could get power or money out of you. On the contrary, such practice, empowers you toward self-realization, not them above you. they even lose their so-caled powers over you when you come to a certain degree of inner stability and realization.

I'm sorry if the tone of my answer made you feel like you didn't know nothing about it, it was not my intention, far from it, and I would encourage you to try the practice I quickly underlined in the past reply. Give it a go. You'll see, you can do it too. Life has na infinity to offer in deed, and it is only up to ourselves to tear down the walls preventing us from doing so.

Thanks for this exchange, it fired me right up. I'm glad to know that you are following me now too. Thanks a bunch, keep your smile and taking good care, thrive on and namaste :) All for one and one for all!!!

Thank you bro , it was very nice discussion
See you around :)
looking forward to read your blogs , namaste

Nice post , i shared it in my profile yesterday

Thank you @mhn , appreciate it man

Thanks, very interesting.