Friends of Gondor
(account @friendsofgondor and tag #friendsofgondor)
A "Peaceful Way" To Help @fulltimegeek
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This Post Is Open For Questions Regarding The Big Upcoming Big "Quest"!
As many are aware, there is a "quest" about to be launched that will shape the future of steemit. Some of you may not know what to do or how you can help. Others may want to help, but are afraid of getting caught in the crossfire. And finally of course, there are still others may not even know what is going on. (ask in the comment section if you don't know and I or others will help you understand)
I will be addressing all those issues today and tomorrow on this post. I will actively watch for comments and will reply as fast as I can to help you understand the situation. It is important what @fulltimegeek is doing, and my small contribution to his success is by helping to educate my people to give him as much support as he needs!
I will be preparing further posts to be more specific on all my plans, but in this one I am going to highlight one aspect of a battle that I think is important, moral support!
Moral Support
There are many ways that people can contribute to any battle, and some are more equipped to do certain things than others. For instance, in real life someone in their 70s are less likely to wield a weapon and storm the frontlines, than someone who is 18 and strong as an ox. But that is why there are many different positions in any army, and why the best armies have strong support channels like hospitals with doctors and nurses to heal the victims.
In addition to actual support functions, there is also an important element to victory and that is called "public opinion". Its why in the real world there are ministries of propaganda that penetrate media and movies to "convince" people, ie to re-enforce the idea in the minds of the people that the cause is just and needed. This gives the people the power of "moral support" and it encourages everyone from the frontline soldiers to the support staff like doctors/nurses to the people that are making the choice to fight in the first place. And its also equally as powerful on the enemy minds too, that's why they call it being "de-moralized".
Note: Unlike real life where I vehemently disagree with most wars waged, I think this quest is for a good purpose and I fully want to do what I can to help steemit survive.
One Way We Can Show @fulltimegeek We Support Him
There are many ways to show our support for what @fulltimegeek is getting ready to do. And the way in which you help will depend on several factors. Some people like me are small (like most of my 5000 followers) and will only have power with their voice, while others will be the doctors and nurses helping the victims be healed. And of course others will be able go to the frontlines and engage directly in battle. This post today will be about showing "love" and using your "voice".
I personally think that we should all be smart about what we can realistically do and consider the consequences of every action. It is one thing to be brave and supportive, but another to be naive and/or ignorant to the backlash. So that is why I am suggesting today a way we can show our support that is far far away from the frontline, because I don't want people to be unnecessarily wounded by trying to "help". To me this way of support is very effective and will give power collectively to effectively use what you have most, your "voice" for moral support!
Quick Background of @fulltimegeek and #stewardsofgondor
The man leading this quest against the selfish on the steemit system is @fulltimegeek. He is the one who started the #stewardsofgondor. To give you some background on what he did, he got so powerful early in steemit's existence that he wasn't comfortable with all his power. So he decided to delegate most all of it away to others, who he felt would do a good job and help others. In that way he didn't carry so heavy of a weight that he could be the sole decider of things. The people who he delegated his power to became known as a Stewards of Gondor! (there are roughly 50 of them)
But now he is coming back in this quest to stop the selfish players. He has had enough of the selfish group and is going to attack them with his own power. But to do this he is taking back his delegated power from his "stewards", so he will once again have the ability to have lots of control over the situation. He will also have an army of people that will help him (like me, even though I am small) because he has earned respect from many for his selflessness and giving.
Friends of Gondor Is Now Launched!
As a way to show support for @fulltimegeek, and those that have already been injured through his need to withdraw his delegations, I have set up a group account called @friendsofgondor. This account will be my way to give moral support to @fulltimegeek and the "Stewards of Gondor" members that lost their own power (and are supporting @fulltimegeek still).
This is a peaceful way to show support and will keep my followers far away from the frontlines. It will not hurt anyone to cast an upvote for a SOG member, so their will be no damage for showing your support in this way.
This is very important to understand. People that follow my lead here, will not be putting their accounts in danger (which is the last thing I want for newbies and minnows).
How It Will Work
I will be "auto-upvoting" every post that the SOG members make at 0 minutes from the @friendsofgondor account (to give maximum value to the authors). I have set an account up through https://steemauto.com to have a "curation trail". Therefore anyone that wants to support @fulltimegeek in the way that I am choosing, can do so very easily through joining the @friendsofgondor curation trail.
The way a curation trail works is actually very simple. Every time a member on the list (below) makes a post, @friendsofgondor will automatically upvote it. If you "join" this curation trail, then you will also upvote with me. Every time, automatic.
The beauty of this system is that you can set your vote value to send the message but also not sap your own voting power too hard. I recommend you set your voting weight to between 1% and 10% to this effort. Put another way, you normally have 100% of your own votes being cast. If you give away 3%, then you will still have 97% that will be yours to do with as you normally do. It is a very effective way to send your "voice" through upvoting and will not affect your normal course of business.
The way I think of it is that if I could keep my regular way of doing things intact with 90% to 99% of what I have in voting power, then of course I will be happy to give my voice of an upvote because I do respect very much what these guys are doing! And it will help @fulltimegeek to understand his loyal stewards are being rehabilitated.
How Your Small Vote Can Make A Big Difference
You may think that since your vote is only worth as little as $0.00 - $$0.01 that sending an even smaller fraction of that will do no good, but you would be wrong.
Lets go through the math: if we have 1000 people do this and each only had a $0.01 per upvote... and the average is a 5% individual contribution to the trail... the math works out to this (1000 x $0.01 x 5%) or a total of a $0.50 upvote on each post of each Steward of Gondor.
But its not really about the math ;)
A Message Of Thanks
While a $0.50 upvote might not seem like much for the upvotes for 1000 people, the purpose of this plan is not for the money, instead it is for the upvote cast itself. Your upvote is a vote of support, a vote that shows you are giving your "moral support" to their sacrifices.
Just imagine how you would feel if every post of yours received hundreds to thousands of upvotes from people casting their votes to say "thank you in this small way and we support you". That is what @friendsofgondor seeks to achieve.
I am making the account solely dedicated to helping the people that @fulltimegeek has hand selected as his stewards and are fully behind him in his quest against this selfishness. I will use the account to only autovote stewards and will not vote for anything else. My goal in doing this is to achieve several objectives:
#1 I want to give the smaller players an easy and automatic way to use their "voice" to show their support and contribute in a way that is "peaceful".
#2 I want to show people that there is more than one way to support the "flag war" battles going on. This is the peaceful and non-combative way that I think most of my friends should follow through with. It is a way that will keep any negative aspect of the quest from hitting any indivdual that participates. (Note: I will be also discussing other ways that you can support the battle that are far more confrontational (like @flagthedonkey), but that is not something I would suggest the average newbie or minnow engage in.)
#3 I want to encourage others to follow a similar path and set up their own curation trail and support their own set of supporters (this is a big quest with many people needing support). By setting up a framework of my own, I am setting up a model for anyone to use. I'm hoping there will be many to hop on the idea and we set up hundreds of trails together. They all add up and it does send "moral support".
#4 I want to encourage leadership and motivation. I want people from all parts of this community to learn that there are ways to get things accomplished, and that no one is too small to make a difference. We can all help in many ways, and even if you only have 50 followers, you can lead them to work with you in productive ways.
Spread The Word - Resteem & Make Your Own Posts
I don't normally mention resteeming my posts, but in this case I'm going to make an exception. I think this message is a very important one to be delivered. If you agree with my message and think it should be heard by many, then I hope that you will resteem it for the purpose of education. Many people will "want" to help, but may not know "how" to help in a peaceful and non-combative way, so by you educating them of this way then you will be doing a service to us all.
Also, I don't normally encourage people to copy others' posts and make it their own. But in this case, with this post, I welcome and encourage anyone to take whatever they want out of it and make their own post to their own followers. You can copy and past the whole thing if you like as far as I'm concerned.
Easy Instructions To Set Up And Follow A Curation Trail On Steemauto or Streemian (applied, but not live yet)
To set up a curaton account at https://steemauto.com (click here to learn how) or https://streemian.com (click here to learn how)
List of Stewards of Gondor That Will Be Auto Upvoted
54 names. I have left off one name due to his admirable stance of personal conscience on not being able to support @fulltimegeek in this quest. If any of the others on the list don't support the quest, please let me know and I will be happy to remove your name too. Everyone of course can support what they want, but this list is for the purpose of supporting those stewards that support @fulltimegeek's position.
@fulltimegeek
@abh12345
@allseeingewe
@buddy67
@c0ff33a
@carey-page
@carlgnash
@cbanks
@cecicastor
@cheneats
@coolguy123
@cranium
@crimsonclad
@dakini5d
@davedickeyyall
@defango
@drakos
@einarkuusk
@fabiyamada
@flauwy
@frankbacon
@geekpowered
@goldendawne
@greenrun
@hendrix22
@hitmeasap
@howtostartablog
@inquiringtimes
@kryptokayden
@kubbyelizabeth
@leighstewy
@lifttheveil411
@lukebrn
@luming
@lyndsaybowes
@marxrab
@mikepm74
@old-guy-photos
@openmic
@orcheva
@originalsimulant
@quitefrankly
@realtreebivvy
@reko
@samiwhyte
@skycae
@somethinfishy
@spiritualmax
@taskmaster4450
@theuxyeti
@votovzla
@wisewoof
@yagoub
All SBD Will Be Used To Lease SP To Support The Curation Trail
Note : All proceeds of SBD from this post and all SBD earned in the @friendsofgondor account will be used to lease SP to have a larger vote value. This will stay this way as long as the "flag war" quest is in place. At the end of the quest, I will give @fulltimegeek the power to decide what to do with this account.
I am also contributing the $1.50 sbd award from @abh12345 and adding another $5 sbd from my own account to get the leasing program started. If anyone else wants to contribute to the SP leasing program for this, all donations will go directly for the express purpose of leasing SP to increase the upvote values for the names on this list.
If You Have Questions, I Will Try To Give Answers. Ask Anything
No question is too small and I'm happy to help. I want people to understand this and I'm willing to spend as much time as necessary to explain!
Incredible! Thank you so much @davemccoy and all of the Steemians who are and will contribute to this healing process. You are more help then you think! Love you all
Awesome @hendrix22... I am very glad to see that you saw this and your opinion of the effort. I know its not comparable in scope to what you guys are doing, but I hope in some small way it will help give you all a boost! We appreciate what you are doing and don't underestimate the courage you are showing! So thank you very much too!!!
Hello there Dave!
I already commented on the friendsofgondor post, but I'll comment here as well.
As a Steward I appreciate the kind words and the way you guys are showing us your warm support.
I gave this my 100% upvote, even though it isn't much, and I also would like you to have this.
By the way, I'm sure @fulltimegeek will make good use of all the SP he called back, I'm proud to have indirectly contributed with the SP I held in his name.
Cheers
Your cards are awesome dude! love them!
Im making you one this week man :D
I'm glad you're giving @hendrix22 one... and I want to say thank you again @spiritualmax, I enjoyed your card all day long! (took it everywhere I went) ;)
Hahahah, glad to hear that man... if you don't know my other ones already, you should have a look.
Where do I find them? Are they in your posts or do you have a website? I will definitely check them out :)
https://steemit.com/steemit/@spiritualmax/steem-trading-cards-print-recap-and-card-back
https://steemit.com/steemit/@spiritualmax/steem-trading-card-game-4th-edition-print
https://steemit.com/steemit/@spiritualmax/steemit-trading-card-game-3rd-edition
https://steemit.com/steemit/@spiritualmax/steemit-card-game-community-powered-laughs-who-s-your-favorite-part-ii
https://steemit.com/steemit/@spiritualmax/steemit-card-game-community-powered-laughs-who-s-your-favorite
Here are the four editions @davemccoy!
@spiritualmax what an honor that you did that for me! I'm truly touched, its a very very cool thing to do :)
I don't mind that your upvote doesn't mean much, its the respect you've given me that I care about. First to reply and let me know that you are appreciative and approving, and then to make this card it means a lot! So thank you very much! It will be added with honor to my profile!
And I appreciate you letting everyone know your thoughts on supporting FTG. I'm glad he did it for this purpose and proud of the way you all are handling it! (fyi, I didn't expect anything less since I have gotten to know the character of so many of you awesome stewards)!
Thank you again and I will cherish my creature "The Rallier"!!! ;)
Really great and fitting card!
Thank you @lyndsaybowes! :)
Thanks :D This week I'll nominate hendrix myself :D
And can I nominate @lyndsaybowes ?
Ahead of you... I had already made @lyndsaybowes
Awesome - that is FAB - you rock oh spiritual one!
aww @spiritualmax, what a great card you created for @davemccoy here! I guess the more everyone pitches in, the sooner (hopefully) order will be restored here. I love the idea of a curation trail as a form of 'healing' during the messy process.
Glad you liked it... I think an agreement was made already, let's wait until the dust settles.
wow.. is that true?
Unfortunately, it appears not... Someone was recycling one of the posts from the Bernie-Hay ceasefire of the last time.
ok great.. would've nice to have capitulation but if there needs to be a fight then so be it! Thanks for the heads up on both, I appreciate it!!!
I just got cautiously optimistic, but just saw your reply below. That is unfortunate to say the least.
I understand, somewhat, all the issues happening on steemit as of late, as the so-called war (a term which I detest because it fills your mind with negativity, hurt, blame and people having to pick a side); is affecting SO many steemians. I have seen "friendships" broken, and perhaps even no way of mending and that saddens me.
I also understand the need to stand up for oneself, voice your views, stand by your convictions and, in the end, to retain your integrity and morals.
I can appreciate everyone doing what they believe is correct and standing firm. That's what having our freedom of speech is all about. If everyone had the same viewpoints and opinions, we would be quite monotone and, actually, kind of dull in this world.
I appreciate @davemccoy for making this post, setting up this steemit page for people who tend to avoid conflict and who prefer to avoid, hate to say it this way but, drama.
I support community and unification because without support, friendships and positive relationships, we have nothing. We are alone. We stand solo. And I do not believe that's what steemit is about; to be alone.
I have always appreciated @fulltimegeek for delegating his SP to me and will forever be grateful for ALL the wonderful events, posts, contests, etc that his generosity has allowed me to pass on to other steemians in the three months that I served as a SOG. I applaud his pay it forward soul, his desire to make steemit a stronger platform and to advance to new levels. His kindness effected so many steemians and brought us together as a unified body of members to spread the word, lift other members up and become confident in the platform's future.
When this disagreement or conflict and stance for bettering steemit has a resolution, I would be more than honored to continue the work as an SOG and continue uplifting more steemians.
Dawne I know that it is tough what you are going through. You are one of the ones that have borne the brunt of the pain so far. And that pain is not about just losing power and influence, as you said it is about breaking apart some of the family. You are one of the ones that I was thinking of when this idea came to my mind. I know what kind of influence and support you give directly to people each day, and I am very driven to see you move forward! And I want to do my part in helping you, so I can see you spread your magic each day!!! You are truly amazing and have taught me so much!
The good thing I think is this will end favorably and I'm positive you will be even stronger when its all over! I'm very confident of that. :)
I know I've told you many many times how much I appreciate everything you do, but I want to do it again here today! You've been a MAJOR contributor to the success of #newbieresteemday and have helped so many of our members that it is impossible to list them! I love our Dear Dawne segment and its by far the biggest contributor to more experienced steemians understanding how they can help us newbies/minnows out. It was a big factor and gave us credibility in people's eyes like Asher and @coolguy123. So we owe you much and will forever be behind you! You can count on it!
Have a wonderful day and again thank you so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here's a newbie nickel @joe.public for taking the time to acknowledge @goldendawne! That was nice of you to do and I appreciate your words to her!!!
What a wonderful way to show support to the SOGs! The ones I've interacted with are amazing individuals and I am sure all the others are just as great to have received the delegation from Mr. FullTimeGeek.
Needless to say, you have my support @davemccoy!
thank you very much my wonderful friend! I know you know how awesome these guys are! Everyone we have had a relationship with has been amazingly supportive of the newbies and minnows like us. So to me it is a way to send a message to them (@abh12345 @coolguy123 @goldendawne) and many many more that even the @fulltimegeek had to temporarily take back his power, the messages left behind are still remembered and won't die!
Let's spread this message @beeyou and lets get others to learn how awesome these people really are ;)
Thanks for joining the curation trail! You are simply the best!
If someone wants to support this, is it required for them to be a flat-earthist?
hahaha... nope, its not a requirement ;) ... In fact, you could be a round-earthist or a square-earthist or even a triangle-earthist, because you can support this no matter what kind of earthist you are :D
Have a wonderful day @apsu and thank you for taking the time to read the post and to comment!!! :)
Lol apsu.
Well done @davemccoy - great rallying call as @spiritualmax has captured. Just transferred and thanks for helping me feel useful :)
Thank you @ricia! and I love @spiritualmax's card :) ... And you have been a major contributor to getting the account up to 750 sp!
So thank you very very much! You are awesome!!! Here is the last post update so you can see how the funds were spent!!!
https://steemit.com/stewardsofgondor/@friendsofgondor/friends-of-gondor-update-1-gondor-calls-for-help-and-friends-of-gondor-hear-it
Great job and love people like you that just "do"!!!
Way to take the reins! I will absolutely resteem this.
Thank you very much @lyndsaybowes! You're opinion means a lot to me. I know we haven't spoke much, but I pay attention and have noticed how you're very passionate about supporting this quest. I was very impressed with how you have been supporting the positive messages with your upvotes in the past days, so I know you care.
I'm very pleased to see you comment directly here, as you're approval is one that means something to me! Thanks again, and let me know anytime if I can help you! :)
You are helping a tonne already, thanks for organizing #friendsofgondor.
Cool.. that's nice to hear @lyndsaybowes! And you're welcome but its nothing compared to what you all are doing! We're behind you :)
What a great idea here Dave; I am honoured to be a part of all this. It's a nice way to help heal the wounded warriors, so to speak. And I really like that it's non-combative; it's so easy for people to get wound up about things and say and do things that aren't necessarily productive. This is a safe way to help make this platform fair and authentic once again...the way it was intended.
I too am going to send my 1.0 SBD award from @abh12345 to the leasing program. It's all about paying it forward! Thank you again for this wonderful post:)
Lynn you are always so awesome!!! I truly missed your bright and positive attitude, and I'm so happy you are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And I'm sure the #stewardsofgondor would thank you for this wonderful donation!!! I certainly do! :)
No, you're awesome :) It's nice that I was missed...this farm girl knows how to spread a little sunshine around! And although my donation isn't much, a little from everyone will go a long way.
By the way, I'm glad I'm back too !!
:D ... the farmgirl in mexico... we can make a movie about you one day ;)
In case you missed the update :)
Thank you again for being so awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
https://steemit.com/stewardsofgondor/@friendsofgondor/friends-of-gondor-update-1-gondor-calls-for-help-and-friends-of-gondor-hear-it
hahaha "The Epic Journey of The Farmgirl in Mexico"
...and thanks for the link; I hadn't had a chance to make my way there yet!
....and last but certainly not least...you are awesome!!!!!!!!!
Thanks @davemccoy for another nice gesture from you to support the #stewardsofgondor members with this. Appreciate that.
As you have rightly mentioned, more then the money each vote generates, it's the moral support that will increase the morale of SOG's after the loss of power to help others because the undelegated SP is being put into some other better activity.
Appreciate each and every such efforts and a big Thank You to you and the supporters of curation trail on behalf of members of #stewardsofgondor.
Hey @coolguy123... I'm glad you like it and hope that it does help you. Right now I will have an educational function to do to teach my people how the curation trails work. So far though we have 13, which to me is a good start. I will focus hard on getting that number in the hundreds,, and if others join me then I think we can get thousands.
The people are there and so is the heart. I think the mechanics are new to the people I represent. So its just a matter of time in my opinion. Its like with @abh12345's and @danielsaori's game, I knew there would be an audience as soon as I could figure out how to get the message out. ps... sometimes I do it well and sometimes not so well, but I will always keep trying. ;)
I see where a lot of people think the stewardsofgondor are finished because the delegations have been taken back by @fulltimegeek. But to me they can never be finished because the #stewardsofgondor was an idea that was about selflessness and caring about others. And you can't take away that idea just by removing the delegations. To me the #stewardsofgondor will live forever in my mind and I will always have respect or them and what they have accomplished!
You, Asher, and @goldendawne have taught me well and you three (plus FTG) should be happy about that. I have seen the drop in you're power, and as far as I'm concerned its my job to help you get it back. You all (every SOG I've run into) have been nothing but selfless and dedicated to the community. So to me this "quest" is just a bump in the road, and if I can do my small part in giving you all a pat on the back then I am very happy to do so!
We are building something great here together @coolguy123. All of us...old and new...big and small...I can see it every day. I have built several $100 million organizations from scratch, and I have never been this excited about my future. This excitement is due to both my friends and followers, soon to be 5000 (4997 right now), and to my more experienced friends like you. And the beautiful thing is we are just getting started!
Thank you @coolguy123.. and ps... if it wasn't for your setting up and teaching me about how the curation trail worked, this wouldn't have happened either!!! ;)
Great man, nice to know a little more of your background and the force of attraction which is there in you to attract the people. Thanks for everything.
Thank you @coolguy123... You're respect means a lot to me! And it is reciprocated back to you too! Have a wonderful day!
Awesome!!! I know that they are really good people and people with integrity. I look up to them and I want them to succeed here. Fulltimegeek is very good at discerning who his SOGs are so I trust that everyone has a good heart like him.
So with my little SP, I would like to join the trail. But at 10% my vote value is $0. I have to be at 25% to give at least 0.01. How many votes will there be in a day? Coz I also still need to support other people. If I can't join the trail due to my SP, please let me know other ways I can support.
Hey @wanderlass, that is all you need to give... 10% should be the maximum... And yes it will show as 0 but it will get added to everyone else... so its not really 0... Plus the main reason for doing this is for your "moral support" of your upvote, not for the money you can give. They know we don't have any money, they wouldn't want us to give what we don't have.
These guys are the real deal and I promise you that they want you to do good. They will appreciate every vote they get (even if it is 1% of almost nothing)... This is why the curation trail idea I think is so good for people like us. We can show them we care, we can educate others about how much the are doing for the system, but just as importantly we can do it in a way that doesn't take us away from building a solid community. They want us to help each other and help the newbies. But I'm sure they will appreciate our collective voices.
And the way it works is you are giving away a % of your account to the curation trail which will autovote, and keeping the rest. So you don't have to worry about the number of votes, that will be my job... and I will manage that by setting the weights of my vote (because I want to keep the voting power high too)...
So the bottom line is... you should do it no more than 10%... and you can go even as low as 1% (and do it scaled)... and you should barely notice a hit to your own sp. Try it for a few days and contact me on discord and I can also walk you through it.
You are really amazing too.. I love someone who ask that question! :)
ps.. and the answer to the question is 1) be you, which is great... 2) do a good job a the newest ABC's of Curation "curator" (ps you are the next generation, i have heard from 2 of them you are in ;)... and 3) tell others about how to support @fulltimegeek in a way that doesn't throw them on the front lines. Some just don't know its even possible (and since you can do good posts, when you figure it out you can also tell them that way too) ;)
Thank you so much @davemccoy! I already have steamauto but haven't done anything in it. I can look for posts that would give instructions. I know you're extremely busy and you seem to be losing sleep too. I see your comments all the time. Please take care of yourself. I'll DM you for sure if I have questions.
And I didn't know I have a new job hahaha. Thank you! I have to see my job description, I don't want to disappoint the team :D
Resteemed this for now and will let others know. :)
I am never too busy for you @wanderlass... Never!!! :)
And since you are on steemauto already, then its easy. Just go to curation trails and type in the search for friendsofgondor... select follow (then change the weighting by "editing" it and select 1% for now so you can see how it works).
And cool about DM'ing me if you have any questions, I'll get to you always!
As for the job, no worries... its something that I think you are really going to enjoy! (and no pressure too ;) ) I think @amariespeaks @beeyou and @charisma will love to take you under their wings and are excited to have their first new "Curator"... Because it now makes them "Senior Curators".... They got a promotion too :D
Always nice to see you and have a wonderful day!
Thanks @davemccoy. I just hope I would be able to deliver. I'm all over the (Steemit) place right now and have to organize. :)
the reply for @newbiegames was me btw (in case you didn't know) ;)
Hope your day is going beautifully @wanderlass!!! :)
its no worry... you will get set up and contribute when you can. Like how you sometimes moderate our discord channel. I mean if you feel like doing it and its fun then you do it, if not then no worries we have plenty of people watching it.
Its like you "can" do it if you like. As opposed to "having" to do it. Big difference. And you will deliver any time you try and frankly you've always delivered! So nothing to be worried about and if you never end up doing one, it would be ok too.
You are just approved, and that is the gist of it!
PS. I don't know how trails work so this will be my first time if ever :)
:P .... its always a good time to learn something new.. would you like me to walk you through the setup? I can do it really fast on discord if you are online.
and btw, you can always change the setting and stop it altogether, you control everything except what I vote on. But since I set autovote like described above, its actually really simple to see. You will love it and I bet you will have your own curation trail before the end of this year ;)
you know you've got my support! what a great write up @davemccoy
Ohh I know @amariespeaks ;) ... With your wisdom and toughness, I have know doubts! :)
Thank you for being there in so many ways, I know you have many things going and I appreciate everything you do! :)
thank you @davemccoy ! No matter how much may be going on I'll always make time to support your just causes!
I rarely get to speak to you now that you are doing so many wonderful things! Congrats on the radio idea and I hear you are going to a gameshow mc tomorrow too ;) ...
You really are amazing and I support anything you are doing too for sure :)
@davemccoy thank you!! the radio idea is gonna be great - we all gotta get on a chat about it and we'll definitely have to make a special interview/raving all about how awesome you are once we get it going!! I hope you'll agree to do it???
lol... I will agree to help you.. not to rave about me though lol...
btw, did you know I also owned a radio station in my life?
the tagline was "talk with attitude"
Here is one of my shows I did on money:
upvoted. resteemed! and happy to throw in a percentage upvote. added on steemauto. you have my letter opener. @fulltimegeek and I are tight. "its the day of the quickening" the point before the storm
YOU HAVE MY LETTER OPENER @fulltimegeek
Hey Yeti... You're look fit and ready to help ;) ... Its awesome to see you with me on this, and lets keep working together in many ways in the future! Let's how the SOG's that we care what they have done and will do for us all in the future!
Who are the targets? For the life of me I don't understand who is fighting who. I mean I realize haejin is the donkey, but is he also the troll?
yes... that is right.. fulltimegeek is a good guy that is going after abuse.... Just watch who he goes after and you will know who the trolss are.... no names though and no tags. I know you're strong, but lets keep you around here for the long run!
Also I will find a way to rehabilitate you over time if things will die down... So don't lose hope and tell your mom the same! I have a good feeling about how this plays out!
did you see who upvoted my post @erebus? Check out the post I resteemed from "friends of gondor"
Thanks for your support, buddy! @growingpower just upvoted your comment ;)
You mean gandolfthebrown?
yes that's the account that Fulltimegeek just set up and you can see who he is going after... and it seems like you aren't getting flagged anymore... so don't use the @'s and call any attention to yourself...
Btw, we have some newbie games that you can play and pick up some money... so pretty cool ones too ... You can tell your mom too... here's the tag #newbiegames
Valiant effort here from one of the masters of Engagement! This is a great way to show that the spirit of engagement will not be silenced by the troll.
Thank you very much @maverickinvictus! I appreciate the encouragement :) ... And I'm glad you like it and hope you can spread the word about others doing something similar. It isn't about me, its about getting support out there in many ways that suit each of us. This is just one idea, but hopefully one that many will support or do something along the same lines!
ps... if you do something similar, let me know and I will personally support your trail and spread the word about it too! :D
Hey Dave! This whole thing is blowing my mind :) doesn't help to be in the middle of figuring out who you are. Oh my goodness!! Shnykiez. I really admire Rob's stance on this. And, have just spent a little time connecting with @aggroed. Now, in your post learning a bit more of @fulltimegeek's reason's for distributing the weath. Like what if we focused on #minnowsupport and take care of the vulnerable? I am sure it is okay to choose non-violence!! I have delegated to @flagthedonkey and realize that's probably not a wise choice for me. I will reread your post and try to process the curation trail thiny. Good on you to put in the effort you are here on the steem. Take gooooo-oooooo-oooood care of yourself🎉🎶
Hey again @yogajill :)... I will always remember you for your fantastic emojies :P ...
And I do think it is important for you to consider how you can best help. Remember that every form of support you give has consequences. In some cases it could hurt you bad, but it could also earn respect at the same time. So its a personal choice that everyone should make.
I think the consensus opinion from most of the SOG members I've had comments with is that they want people of our size to stay focused on building our communities. They don't really want us to get hurt by jumping directly into the battle. So that's why I cam up with this plan which is simply to give moral support to those that have already sacrificed. If I was in their shoes, I would appreciate the gesture and love the knowledge that our community supported them.
So thank you so much for the fun comment and your thoughts too. It has been my pleasure to meet you and I hope we have a long relationship here together (so keep your head down if you get on the front lines) ;)
If you have any questions or need me for anything, don't hesitate to ask! Ohhh and if you do get wounded, let me know and I will see what I can do to get you some triage! ;)
Oh! I am follower 4999 i think! Thanks lots for your thoughtful reply. Next, coffee and curation trail lesson. I will likely be hard core focusing on holding this situation with good prayers & through community support. As i am an #asapers member which i think you are working with @hitmeasap on if i am not mistaken. Super cool to meet you! As i find my place in this journey blessings 😇❤💛💚💙💜💖 😉
wow, you've now given me another thing to remember you by @yogajill! ;)
If you have any questions about the curation trail, please let me know and I will help for sure. You can contact me anytime about anything on discord at davemccoy#2479.
I'm glad to see your "hard core" focus and you are correct that I'd like to help @asapers as we share the same goals and I think both of our objectives fit nicely together!!!
And of course there is the best thing about your comments, I love those colorful smileys :D
I see this from "Gina" but can't find it here:
"Hey @davemccoy! Me again, can you please help me understand what 'accounts posting auths' means?"
If you still need help with it let me know... But that is you giving permission to steemauto to upvote using your "posting key". (note they can't access your wallet or do anything other "post or vote"... but only with your permission. Its standard if you haven't seen things like this before!
Let me know if you need any more help #4999 :D
I was gonna look you up on discord, but that is also a learning curve right now. I juuuuust began dipping my toes in a couple days ago and am heading there after this. But, I actually figured it out! Which is also why i deleted the post. Thanks for checking!!
Then, when coming back to reply to this msg i ran into the lex guy and, woa. It's thrown me for a loop. Like what is even happening?! Part of me feels too that i want to just be peaceful. Focus on helping. There are so many mucked up paradigms to sort through. There has to be a better way for all of us. 😓💖
I think you should stay out of the way until you fully understand it @yogajill! Honestly I want you to stay healthy and happy and I know the #stewardsofgondor would mostly share that feeling. So if you are in any way not clear of what you are doing, then just watch and observe but stay away from the front lines for sure.
They don't need the people of our side to fight, they would never want me to talk you into going into battle. The stewards that I have met (and they are becoming more each day) are determined to make this a place that you love. So its ok to not take sides and its ok not to participate. Honestly that is what many will do.
The reason I have chosen to help in the way that I am doing is that I believe that it does send a signal for moral support and lets the people fighting know they cause is supported. But The Lex guy did make some valid points and that is something you can weight and consider. I have my own opinion, but you should certainly only act if you have weighed the consequences and determined it was the right chance to take.
So I'm sorry to be wordy, but I want you to understand that its ok to not get involved. And it is also ok if you do too. I want to be your friend for a long time and those cute little smilies should have smiles on them each time I see you ;)
So contact me on discord when you just want to chat about anything too... Ohh and we started a new gametonight that you can play if you want that I think is pretty cool (I think so because I helped to make it) lol :)
here's the link if you want to play!!!
https://steemit.com/earthnation/@newbiegames/earthnation-presents-newbiegames-jeopardy-where-every-valid-answer-is-a-winner
Hey Dave 😊
I really appreciate that you're reaching out & focused on helping in a good way. I have also come to the same conclusion as you suggest! Just need to get myself more sturdy here. And, stay active with the people as usual. Which has it's way of being supportive too. I checked out Lex's blog and what he had there that i could interpret in regards to numbers (in the past two weeks) was not much. Tat made sense to me anyway. But, it also does not make any sense that this issue at hand can't be discussed. So, everyone can come to an understanding. And, we can carry on. It is dissapointing that there's stonewalling to such a degree. And, to be squashed because one wants to give a leg up. I'd be ---who knows where without the help of my community stepping in. And, i aim to pay it forward looking ahead. Which is the same for so many of us. We all need the support of another. No one can live life alone.
Thanks for inviting me to discord! I like fun 😁 i will check it out. And, continue prayers of peace 🌹
Bless you kind @davemccoy!
I've upvoted & resteemed. I don't know if I'm going to follow the curation trail yet though. While I think the chances are likely that many if not all of the users that @fulltimegeek chose are quality creators, I'd like to review them first to see if I can in good conscience support the trail. It also depends on how large the trail end up getting. While a few bucks per post is great, I would not be comfortable with much more than that. I prefer that larger rewards only be given on a manual basis.
Thank you @geekpowered! I appreciate you reading and taking the time to consider. I realize this might not be a solution for everyone, but I can tell by your answer that you are thoughtful. !And to me that is all I could ask, you taking the time to think it through!
In my opinion, everyone should always be comfortable, so whatever you decide and however you show your support that is perfect to me! :)
Godspeed to all that will be in the fight. Anything for the cause!
thank you mello and thank you for already joining the trail!!! Awesome!
What a good post friend as always helping the whole community of steemit to emerge, thanks for so much contribution! excellent post
thanks @vanemilano! That's a nice thing to say and I appreciate it! :)
If you have any questions, please let me know and I will be happy to help you!
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Thanks Tag-Lifter, good to see you back on the job... I thought maybe @beeyou scared you away with her relentless demand for results. I know she's the boss and sometimes pushes kinda hard, but I'm sure she didn't mean it when she said you were looking a little fat and lazy. I guess that's just the way she motivates sometimes, but yes I prefer the cheerleader bee myself too. :)
Well glad you're back and hope to see you lifting more tags now too (we've added #newbiegames and #friendsofgondor too) :D
Hey, don’t talk smack about me talking smack about @ilovepoorpeople! Those are some might muscles there!
btw, you think @ilovepoorpeople is nice, but he's not... He is a slacker and you will do yourself good to not let him ruin your work ethic!!!
My perfect work ethic was fine-tuned until you came around @davemccoy! Not my favorite tag-lifter.
omgosh... that is just like you... Always fighting for the underdog or the "bad boy", and leaving the upstanding nice guy that tries to do good, standing in alone in the corner! ;)
You are hilarious Dave. On and off Steemit. Don't call our tag-lifter the 'bad boy'! He's one of our best members. And I don't see any nice guy around. Do you? ;)
You got a 8.77% upvote from @redlambo courtesy of @davemccoy! Make sure to use tag #redlambo to be considered for the curation post!
You got a 10.73% upvote from @brupvoter courtesy of @davemccoy!
You got a 2.98% upvote from @adriatik courtesy of @davemccoy!
I figured you'd stick up for the "weak" .... lol :)
Hey @ilovepoorpeople. We’ve missed our favorite tag-lifter!
That is good
Thank you very much @emmanuelbadmus! I'm glad you like it ;)
@flagthedongkey
I know it well and for the right people that understand how to use it, I strongly encourage it! ;)
I will be working with others to support that way too!
I'm all fired up to join this battle. It's amazing what selfish things some users on Steemit are doing with their power. How do we know when this whole thing will start? @ironshield
Hey @ironshield, I think there are several groups that are preparing to support @fulltimegeek. I don't known how you want to join the battle as there are several ways to help. This effort here is far away from the frontlines, but I know of groups that are being set up to both do the actual fighting and also do the healing. Both are vital roles and needed. It is up to you of course how best to participate, so if you let me know in what capacity I will steer you in the right direction!
As far as when it is going to start, I think the skirmishes have already started and I've heard any day now it will get much hotter. I don't think you will have to go far to hear about it, it is something that even the newbies and minnows are aware about.
I hope this helps, and agree that it will be nice if we can bring back some balance at the top!
Let me know if you need me to connect you to anyone and if you are on discord you can also connect to me there!
Thank you! This will be very interesting to be sure. @ironshield
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Thanks for putting this up. If I understand correctly, the SOGs would probably incur the wrath of the donkey which I why they needed some help to be healed -- which is where the FOGs will come in. To this automatically, one needs to go to Steemauto and follow the trail.
Quick question, if I don't have an account on Steemauto and Streem, can I follow the SOGs and manually heal their posts?
Also, if I would write a post about this noble quest, what tags should I use? I may need to write a post to rally some healers from this side of the community :)
Absolutely you can do that @coolector, you can support them in any way that you find best! I did this idea because a lot of people want to help, but don't have the time to follow 54 different people and upvote their favorites. But if you want to follow just a couple then you are also helping too!!! So do what is best for you for sure :)
Also on the steemauto, it is only a $0.001 sbd signup charge that they refund... so free.... and its easy to do and something good to learn how to do as you get bigger too. Plus you can also set your account to "auto vote" your own favorites and set the weightings and times after the posts. Its a really cool tool... I will be happy to guide you through it, so let me know if you need help... (and I will also help you set up your own curation trail too if you want) ;)
and here are the tags I used for this purpose (it seemed to get some attention of the people in this post:
stewardsofgondor fulltimegeek friendsofgondor mmorpg flagthedonkey
ps... I highly encourage you to make your own post and if you let me know about it I will also try to help you get your message heard! Good job and thanks for being on the team!!! ;)
Please take me off the list. I thank @fulltimegeek for his assistance with delegating steem power to me.
Ok @carey-page I will definitely do that! Thank you for letting me know! Have a wonderful day :)
you have been removed @carey-page! Have a great day!
Sorry about the double message. I was having internet problems. Thank you, you have a great day as well.
Its ok... I didn't know if I didn't move fast enough for you and you just wanted to make sure I wasn't sleeping ;) ... LOL...
I'm glad it you weren't mad at me and its all good. I respect everyone for any decision they make in this challenging time. Everyone has their own motivations and beliefs and its awesome to see people stand on their principles (no matter what their views are).
Have a wonderful rest of your week and if I can ever do anything for you, please let me know! :)
Hey there @davemccoy. We live in the country and internet doesn't always work well.
Definitely not mad. It is all good. Yes you are right we all need to do what we feel is right during this time, it is a challenging time. I hope Steemit gets through this and it ends well.
You have a fantastic week as well. Take care
Joe you ask some really valid questions and I will give my best answers. I am certainly not the expert, but can help you broadly to the best of my ability.
The reason that I think @fulltimegeek has decided to try to "stop" him is because he feels that he is unfairly taking too much money from the rewards pool because he has risen to a level so high that few could even challenge him. It would be one thing if the money was earned and no one would doubt the quality of the work, but the difference here is the he has risen so high in power he is the sole arbiter of his own work. In fact he will actively counter-act any efforts to have a voice against him and will not consider the implications that this has on everyone else.
I don't think @fulltimegeek cares about the money he makes, as long as he makes it by being fair (ie letting the other's judge his work and be subject to their opinions too.) My guess is that the other guy has lived by the credo of "I'm the biggest, so do what I want"... and now @fulltimegeek is now saying, "hey I will challenge that you are the biggest". So I don't think its about the money by itself, its about the way he has used power to take what many consider to be a rather large slice of the overall pool every day (and growing).
Don't know about the friendly whale, so no comment.
I doubt it is about how he chooses to spend the money he earns, my guess is that @fulltimegeek has an issue with ceding the fact that the guy is unable to be stopped if he posts less than quality work relative to the community standards. In fact I think I have read somewhere that @fulltimegeek is fine with taking him down into the 60s so that the community can once again police its own and protect the integrity of the system.
I don't think it would be relevant whether or not anyone fights back in this situation. My guess is the people involved fully anticipate to use the levers of the system so neither is naive about fighting back.
My guess on the actions that could be taken would be for him to come up with a plan to live peacefully with everyone. On this part, I am not involved, but this is what I do in real life. I would suggest to all parties (of relevance) get together and find out what can be lived with and what can't. And see if there is any room for compromise. In my opinion, one thing that I think would be necessary is he would have to voluntarily agree to some standards (which he would agree to ahead of time) and then agree to be "sanctioned" (for lack of a better word) in the event that he broke his own agreement. But if he could find a way to operate in peace and follow a standard that he would agree with, then I would think the people against him would have no reason to challenge him. (all of this is my opinion and am certainly not in a position to know what either side thinks).
I have heard that there were reasonable requests, but honestly I have no first hand knowledge. It would seem to make sense that there was because this situation isn't going to be good for either side.
I highly doubt that last point. If you have followed @fulltimegeek at all you will find someone who has been a giver to the platform and ceded his power for the good of everyone. He does not strike me as a man that is now prone to completely changing who he is (and has been). I think this last point is way off base as @fulltimegeek has already had to ask his own followers to make sacrifices in order to prepare for this next step. I think he would stop tomorrow if the other side said "lets talk". Just my opinion but I'm pretty confident in it.
Thanks for the questions, I am answering them out of respect for the way you asked them. I'm not sure if you were legitimately wondering, or you wanted to see what my responses would be. However, if you really had those questions and wanted the answers, then I certainly would like to help you with my best answers. I appreciate your questions and hope you were honestly asking, because if so maybe I clarified a few issues in your mind!
Take care and thanks for the questions. And I would advise you to learn more about all the facts before you get involved.
You are a little more plugged in on the "drama" than me, so I won't pretend to know better. I would be surprised if this is theater, but we will know more when we see what comes of this. Some above said earlier that he heard they were close to an agreement. We will see if this comes true. If it does, then we can see what changes have been agreed to in order to determine whether this was theater!
Thanks for the reply yourself and thanks for the kind words to others on my post!
The rumor of there being peace was just a rumor. So it seems the fighting will be starting any day now. I hope it ends quickly.