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RE: Some Unusual Source of Alternative Energy

in #stemng7 years ago

As a former chemical engineer - I would suggest that each idea needs to have a system-based design and cost benefits analysis.
Many products and ideas suffer from the lack of a cradle-to-grave design and cost benefit analysis. in the name of quick successes and implementation, many products and systems / solutions have taken short-cuts - mostly by lobbying political leaders and governments - a good example is the "global warming" crowd - no one has given any solutions or problems a cradle-to-grave design, and cost-benefit analysis.
Some well know examples:

  • nuclear energy
  • solar energy
  • hydro-electric power
  • plastics
  • styrofoam
    We have seen the consequences of nuclear energy which was sold to the public as the cheapest alternative energy source - until the now infamous disasters, the latest being Japan's Fukushima and previously Chernobyl ...
    There remains unresolved problems and costs of disposing or securing nuclear wastes.
    We tend to let the superficial "solutions" convince us of the easy and obvious solutions and totally ignore the long-term impacts.
    For any new idea, it is critical that the long-term impact is carefully considered and analyzed and start small scale and see the real-world implementation issues.
    Solar and wind energy has issues with:
  • land use conflicts
  • unpredictable and uncontrollable generations not matching, and often opposite to, demand
  • transmission cost
  • storage
  • low energy production density
    I can go on and on ...
    So, interesting to read and ponder, but the professional engineers are not wasting time on these ideas although there are a few examples here and there and they might have special reasons and motivation and on a small scale - amusing at best to those who are in the profession / industry.
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Some of the ideas, especially the piezoelectric electric form of generation could work in crowded platforms like stadiums, and other public places. The idea of a shortcut is something people do, which I would like to say is more of like a hobby than a real groundbreaking innovation. Thank you for your insightful reply.

In my chemical engineering education and profession, we were taught and trained to look at the big picture to evaluate the feasibility of an idea.
The first case study was the perpetual machine where we discover that if we do not figure in the losses in a system, we can keep a clock running indefinitely without rewinding (or a battery for electronic timers).
The same can be applied to food -> body heat -> hot water or steam -> electricity -> heat & light -> grow food -> back to food ...
However, anytime energy is transformed or transported, there is a loss factor. Lets say it is 70% efficient for all process: wind -> kinetic -> heat and electric -> storage -> transmission -> transformer -> storage -> transmission -> appliances ... 0.7 * 0.7 * 0.7 * 0.7 * 0.7 * 0.7 * 0.7 = ? (a very small number) ...
Now, if you add in human time and labor and business costs ...

The compounding efficiency problem is a signficant one, I agree. Especially true when looking at systems such as in the 'Hydrogen Economy'. Part of the reason I believe so heavily in Nuclear/Solar/Batteries is the efficiency of energy transmission via electrons. Glad to meet a fellow ChemE

Thank you for your comments. Welcome and glad to meet ya too.

That loss factor will always be there since none of the system is 100% efficienct. The perpetual motion machine is the only machine that is said to be 100% efficient. One of the reason it never works in real life.