and then came this:
https://steemit.com/higherorderthinking/@rortian/community-discussion-continued
and this:
https://steemit.com/higherorderthinking/@rortian/community-discussion-continued
https://steemit.com/steemstem/@paulmozina/re-rortian-dealing-with-the-myth-of-facticity-20180407t151235328z#@rortian/re-paulmozina-re-rortian-dealing-with-the-myth-of-facticity-20180407t175146654z