So this voting checking thing has been the hardest part but it's back on track.
Voting Audit
So I found a great new tool here that shows how many times/month everyone has voted on silvergoldbotty, it will work the same as steemvp. Thanks to @jlordc for his comment yesterday.
So for the sake of transpancy, here is the list for the last month, please check it out.
So now what do I do?
If you take a look we can see that only 51 members have voted at least 27 times or more representing voting on a least 90% of posts, while 33 people have voted on all 30 post.
We all decided that voting daily at 100% was mandatory to continue receiving votes, but I feel 90% is likely good enough, auto-voters were down for a bit and 90% is pretty good.
So what do we do with the others that have voted less than 90%?
It's isn't many really, but a few have delegated or donated to higher levels?
I have an idea to have them donate an amount equal to the lost votes in SBD.
Example: member has 100SP, thus a $0.05 vote and if they missed 20 posts that would be an additional fee of $1, to be paid in SBD due to the fact votes on post are rewarded to Stax in the form of SBD (1:1USD)
What does everyone think of this idea and if they decline or don't make contact we just remove them from voting?
Is this too harsh? Sometimes I worry I'm too nice for the job...lol.
Donations and Delegations
Otherwise as previously discussed anyone that has met the minimum voting amount will receive a 1% vote from Stax daily and be eligible to obtain a tier promotion if they chose to delegate or donate.
Here are the proposed tiers for delegations and donations.
| Tier Title | Delegation | Donation | Vote |
|---|---|---|---|
| Gold | 2500SP | 100Steem | 60% |
| Silver | 1000SP | 50Steem | 30% |
| Nickel | 500SP | 25Steem | 15% |
| Copper | 250SP | 10Steem | 8% |
| Lead | 100SP | 5Steem | 4% |
| Zinc | 50SP | 2.5Steem | 2% |
| Member | 0 | 0 | 1% |
Please remember it is also mandatory to be voting on Stax's daily posts at 100% to be getting your return vote.
As I mentioned before I also though we could open it up to more members if we could sponsor members to higher tiers. This can be done with a donation or delegation, but I would limit it too, Copper, Lead and Zinc tiers.
We will also be keeping the @raybrockman member of the week who will be placed at silver tier for one week, and can be picked with whatever criteria he chooses.
For anyone that wants to delegate here are the appropriate links, just remember to replace USERNAME with your username
You can also use this Tool below to delegate.
http://steembottracker.com/delegation.html
Or this tool if you want to run a vessel application yourself.
https://github.com/aaroncox/vessel/releases/tag/v0.2.6
We will continue to accept donations also, but delegations are much preferred and depending on the ability to obtain a lease this month, this option my be removed in the future or credit for donations may need to further decrease, so it's advisable to start working towards you delegated power goal (plus it just makes more sense long term).
Lastly I have some bad news about manual voting, it seams that even when Stax's casts a manual bonus vote on a comment on any post, it resets the vote timer for that user
Thus when I cast all those bonus votes yesterday, it reset and messed up everyone's timer, this may be an issue if it was close to your 24hr period rolling over. If that's the case let me know and we'll work something out, and I can manually catch up at the same time as one of your future votes/posts, or just give one larger vote to compensate.
Thanks again for all the help and feedback and we grow together and get this all figured out
You do what you gotta do to keep these animals in line. Lay down the law....with extreme prejudice.
Dude, your one of the biggest culprits though?
Drop the hammer phil...
If you make 90 the threshold, then people will vote at 90...
Receiving Stax’ vote is a privelidge and peeps gotta’ walk the walk — is this not business?
Everybody is invited to post in #steemsilvergold or wherever-the-fuck they want... but Stax is fancy, and shedoesnot fuck around!
Let ‘em come to you “stax”! This is not a “feely, emotional” thing, it’s just the way it works.
BTW, you look really hot in your new attire! Ol’ ed-x better have the spring/line soon!
😁😁😁
You got the hard ass business mindset man, I need balls like that for this job, so you figure we just don't vote anyone with less than 30 votes? Or at least levy a penalty.
Either that or let them know how much "make-up" Steem they owe the Sweetie-Pie...keep yo pimp hand strong Phil!
No “Penalties!”
Just boot ‘em off the list... if they want back on they can fulfill their obligations... Easy peasy garlic squeezey!
I would usually agree that "sympathy is just another word in the dictionary between shit and syphilis" but I don't know how the autovoters work, I just vote manually, so if that was a legit issue this month, then so be it....but its really not that hard and if you are getting a large upvote from Staxx, then you should be double checking your obligation to the Bot anyways.
X actly
Thank's for the tool,it's very helpfull to see where all the votes go!
Welcome I didn't know you were alive! Let me know if you need any help.
Thank you!
The rules were fair and pretty clear Phil, if a member has to “make it up” with an extra donation, so be it. You are just the messenger...and we shouldn’t shoot the messenger. Cheers and Stack on!
No problem, glad it helped! :)
@matthewwarn This isn't spam. This user gave the Botty a link to a tool on the last post that Phil used to calculate percentages. They also received a shout out in this post.
thank you for pointing that out...I apologize for over-sheriffing...removed and upvoted
@steemsilvergold I just did my duty and did a Full 100% UP Vote. I heard @pit-bullion mention that STAX is one Expensive Date.........
She may be an expensive date, but every 22.5 hours she is good for giving a little back
Thank you for a update Stax.
Can i just ask when upvoting the 100% everyday. I understand it is all of your posts but what about your resteems. Do they count towards your final vote count?
just posts
Ok, cool. I must have missed something i cant see.
Cheers Stax
If someone misses a vote, or maybe even two, I think we should cut some slack and allow for some sort of compensation as suggested. But I agree with damus, if we lower the threshold, some people will only aim for the minimum. Life happens. We should consider things on a case by case. But I think it is apparent sometimes who is trying and who is not.
That's a bit of a concern? I have @steemsilverbotty as a 100% auto vote on Steem Voter. My vote count for the month is only 24.
The previous 2 months average at 30 each which seems ok.
I know they had some down time that could explain the low result for the previous month.
I notice I do appear as a 100% upvote on this post so that's good.
Yes I do think the downtime on the autovoters is partially to blame I know a few others in that 24 range and pretty inactive and only autovote I'm sure it contributed.
Yeah, I like to try and keep active with comments and when I'm not able to post and I actively manual vote whenever I can.
I put @steemsilverbotty on Steem Voter so I wouldn't miss any posts. The only other one I do this for is @minnowsupport
Can i join?
Yes, Anyone can join this . . . .all you need is " high SP"
Sorry fellows, this a community bot only for members of the #steemsilvergold community.
The platform sounds good .i saw your last post but i didn't know its only for registered members.. I'll love to join. How do i go about it.
I think the people that been here the longest and contribute the most " upvoting, resteeming, posting, and helping us new memebers" should all come together and figure the bottem line and then let all us new people know what is going on and what we need to do. People are saying promote, promote well thats all fine and daandy if you know what your doing. Anyway thats nust my thought.
Don't worry man, just vote her daily, and get your bearings around here, the rest will come.
I agree with @thedamus 100% is 100% @100%,that is what was agreed. I don't use auto voter so pick everyone up manually. I know that doesn't work for everyone, but you do have a full 7days to go back and catch up??
It’s a tough call here imo because it seems like turning on autovoter is an easy way for sure to make sure that you vote with 100% accuracy (as long as the bot is up). If one has autovoter on they may not be as likely to read the content of the post, which may be more important than whether or not the individual has voted on it. I for one have not been great at voting every day as I try and manually curate as much as possible! Maybe I should set up autovoter for just sgbotty
It is a double edge sword, but I think the votes are important to receive, they pay for the lease and most of the steem power.
I agree 100% with that!
Kinda surprised at the "no mercy" shouts and calls for the boot over a few missed votes.
I agree that there should be some sort of penance, but I don't think a straight up boot is the answer.
STAX is a community bot after all, a bot that requires a buy in (steem, votes, or delegation), but running basically a charity/support bot like a for profit business isn't really the way to go IMO. Stuff happens, life gets in the way, autovoters go down, vacations are taken, etc
I suggest implementation of strikes. First strike, you gotta pay up. Second strike you're out for a month and can try again later.
I think it also depends on total votes missed. If it's 1 or 2 thats one thing. If it's more than 3 or 4 that's a bigger problem.
Also take into account who is the culprit, how long have the been around, what has their participation been in the past etc.
Just my thoughts... Guess I need to up my game if Steemit is this hardcore now.
Looks like your in the good books man, so nothing to worry about!
Yea, i make sure and double check even now that I'm using steemvoter.
I was just saying in general. I don't think we need to be quite so cutthroat with STAX, there needs to be a standard, but this is a community support bot, not a for-profit- entity.
Just so I understand...this is counting only upvotes made to Stax's actual Posts each day, right? It is not counting an upvote that I leave on the comment she leaves on my post, saying that I just got an upvote from Stax today? I try to say thanks and drop an upvote onto her comment on my post most times too. If I have low voting power, should I avoid that one?
Also, unless I did something wrong in my timing, I might have been overlooked by Stax on this post, from earlier this week?
https://steemit.com/steemsilvergold/@jbcoin/my-mene-24k-platinum-investment-jewelry-show-your-mene-today
Well, looking through the month, there are 7 posts that weren't upvoted by Stax total. Is this because of my timing (Stax doesn't look back further, if I post too close together, the next day)? Thanks for any advice. jb
You must have been off from the voting window, maybe it was before the 22 hrs, I see anohter one that was missed too, the problem now is if I got back and manually vote anything. it will reset your time from that vote, so I'll miss you next one as well. It's not really a perfect system for missed votes, but's here a trick, if you noticed your posts was skipped, try to edit it and repost and it will trigger her to look at it and vote. it should keep you mostly on schedule.
Based on your previous posts I suspect you are going to vote soon, if I catch it i'll try to catch up, otherwise in the future try to edit thing, since it's a huge headache to catch up, sorry dude.
Thanks, no problem at all. Just wanted to see if there was something that I could do, timing wise, to make it better. I remember reasding avout the editing.your post trick now. Thanks @silvergoldbotty
Fantastic post friend
Dumb question.. but how do you vote on stax post? I don't get them in my feed? @stax hasn't posted anything
I think stax is the name for this bot, so you would be voting on @silvergoldbotty
Hopefully they will confirm this....
Well, the rules have been set in place. The rules have not been followed. You have been very understanding and forgiving so far. But I think it's time to start calling people out on this. It's not really fair for the ones always giving 100% all of the time and others to be slacking.
As for an idea, what about at the end of the month if a member has without a doubt failed to uphold his/her end of the membership duties, they get placed on a list. You can use this list in many ways to either confront the parties involved more assertively or you can come up with other ideas to get the point across. I really appreciate your gentle reminders that you give out man, but I don't think some are taking it seriously. Not trying to stir up shit, just giving my .02.
Yeah man, I dropped the list yesterday and they all face a penalty to get back in the good books, but next month, there`s not going to be any second chances.
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