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RE: Hey @Haejin, can we meet halfway? | Let´s have a dialogue, please.

in #steemit7 years ago

Cool, then we could just request him to upvote others too, while posting 10+ posts a day. What do you say, @knircky, would you help us in requesting this to @haejin, please?

I know many people whose posts deserve much more than they're earning currently, and I'm sure @haejin could also lend a hand in helping them. Of course, no compulsion.

Disclaimer: I've yet to check haejin's recent outgoing votes, steemreports isn't loading right now. Last I checked was a couple of weeks back and I don't think there were many.

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I just asked him to do so. We will see how he responds.

Thank you @knircky, appreciate it!

Change the code so that nobody can use more than X% votes on a single account. Don't tell people what to do. Draw the lines and allow them to do whatever.

They'll make multiple accounts then. That was my initial idea too. :/

That's why you need multi-factor security. Eg: One account can only use 40% VP on a single account. There is a earnings cap based on the number of unique upvoters per week. If it's $5 per upvoter per week, it would require hundreds if not thousands of sock puppet accounts. That's a lot of work and lot easier to spot. You could add a minimum account activity to be considered a unique upvoter.

You can't make things impossible without making things fascist. Just make them hard to execute and easier to spot.

"That's why you need multi-factor security."

Just the kind of rational thinking I expect from you =)

I have flogged that horse pretty hard, though, and the best response I have received is ridicule. The worst is complete silence, and typically those with their hands in the cookie jar just handwave the idea away.

Either Steemit will do it, or another platform will, in time.

Thanks!

At least I got minnowbooster to get their communication better. It used to be this:

We currently refuse to make business with you! We'll stop refunding in 9 attempts

And not it's like this:

You have been blacklisted due to violation of our terms of service! If you believe this was done in error, please contact us on discord: https://discord.gg/9HX2MVA. We'll stop refunding in 6 attempts.

But they have a business to run. Stinc is focused on SMTs. They are not setting up incentives right. Even OpenLedger DEX was sick of the dev team always messing with the wallet API giving them lots of extra work. The most active response I've seen from was sneak and boy it was terrible. He's practically bernie sanders lite. Sneak is half-way on board with MSM narratives. If other devs are like him, God help the social aspects of STEEM.

Ned doesn't seem like a bad guy. There are many things I like about him. But he's just too focused on building a "Platform" he's lost the sight of what the hell that platform is supposed to do. But I still don't think STEEM would be anywhere near as bad as ARN:
https://steemit.com/blockchain/@vimukthi/aeron-arn-review-in-depth-analysis-investing-after-the-safest-year-in-aviation-in-history
https://steemit.com/blockchain/@vimukthi/aeron-arn-whitepaper-reddit-analysis-along-with-opinions-from-aviation-veterans-and-how-smts-can-create-something-better

OMG, that guys voice. He has the perfect voice for commercials like that video.

It's not a coin I am interested in. Wish I was. I live right on a private airstrip, and jelly on the guys with their planes in the hangars alla time.

Edit: as to Stinc. I am not so sure they are missing their mark. I suspect they are aiming at a different mark than I think they should be, but I'm looking long term. If they're not, they're hitting the bullseye.

"They are not setting up incentives right."

Their incentives hit profit from the pool dead center.

That's a nice idea! I can't think of any loopholes in that, except: if people are that desperate to make money and willing to waste so much of their time.
Good one.

except: if people are that desperate to make money and willing to waste so much of their time.

This should be the goal of any non-fascist system. This is how Satoshi expected the BTC to be secure. Make good behavior easier than bad behavior.

It would be nice to have a resolution to this issue. However due to there being a limited resource (rewards pool) and due to people being people. There will continue to be wars fighting over the rewards pool.

The flagging was started by grumpycat and berniesanders. In my opinion they don't like to see fast upward mobility from minnow to whale. They want to keep their positions of power on the platform. So they started flagging. When berniesanders saw that haejin was well supported by his followers and by rancho, he stirred up a mob to help him out.

Whether some agreement is made or not, either it will break down as it has done before, or the wrath of the mob will be directed at someone else. As long as there is a resource people want they will fight to get it.

I do appreciate that you took a tactful approach toward dialog. It is insane that after almost 3.5 months of this stupid war, there has been very little attempt a dialog.

Thank you @danpaulson.
I'd also like to thank @transisto and @anomadsoul for giving us an idea that this issue can be solved with dialog in a peaceful manner.

I'm not entirely sure about the Bernie not wanting others to succeed part. If that was the case, he wouldn't be interacting with the users that comment in his posts.

I reached out to him once to review a flag I got by mistake for commenting on one of @haejin's post and he obliged, with an apology. I'd say haejin could learn a thing or two about interacting with his followers from that, wouldn't you too Dan?

Things must always come to an end: whether a happy one or not. Let's hope it's the former this time.

Thank you for taking your time out to reply!

Yes, that I think is a fair ask. To be fair, he does upvote others sometime. he votes for me and every once in a while (no im not a minnow).

I think working with people to the benefit of steem is great. And I agree every whale should foster the system and help minnows grow.

Awesome, glad to hear a positive reply!
I agree, he should vote people whom he finds interesting, but helping a few minnows every once in a while is cool too. :)
Hope you convey the same to him if you get a chance.
Cheers!