Adjusting @tipU Voting ROI: Min +1% / Max +20% / + Profit Share Tokens

in #steemit6 years ago (edited)
Hi guys, how's it going. Today I've updated the ROI calculations for @tipu voting service that sets the minimum ROI to +1% so negative ROI is no longer possible. Check out the rest of the post for more details.


The reason why the negative ROI was possible before was that @tipU couldn't handle all the upvote requests and had to go into sleep/recovery mode each day which made many users a bit angry.

Thanks to recent delegations and some other mechanics that allow to limit voting power draining (especially on old posts which really doesn't fit the "promotion" category) this is no longer an issue - so ROI calculation does not have to go into negative mode.

Currently the minimum ROI is set to +1% and max to +20%. On top of that each vote reqest is rewarded with @tipU profit sharing tokens so the actual ROI is far higher :)

The minimum ROI at +1% means that each upvote will be profitable and the user will always receive more than what he paid. When you compare it to most of the bidbots that's quite unusual as most of them does not feature negative ROI protection.


PS. First person that spots something weird in that gif above (apart from green arrow) will get 10 STEEM :P

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The moving hand on the green arrow? It looks weird.

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Hi @cardboard, I'm not sure what happened and if you are aware...

I used the "pay now" feature - and at the time it was unresponsive. When I awoke this morning it had 1.628 STM - which is an over payment.

I am pleased to see that your app has started recovering the funds; I do however have the following concern - particularly since I'm not sure of the algorithm conducting the recovery event.

At the time of these snapshots it's been 4 hours since the payout and presumably the recovery of funds...

A rough calculation hints at the recovery of the full 1,628 SP whereas it should only recover the portion that was over-paid...

I'm therefore seeking clarity on the workings of the recovery process which the app uses - that it is fact only recovering the portion that was over paid.

Keep up the great work!

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No that's an unusual bug, seem you were the only one affected. Probably caused by steem api error which paused the service and when it resumed, it instantly processed all requests - fixing it now.

I've removed the negative balances, hope makes the problem resolved for you :)

Thanks @cardboard, much appreciated.

Here is the other query that we were discussing which I've since responded to...

https://steemit.com/steem/@cardboard/re-rlt47-re-tipu-tipu-website-investor-s-dashboard-updated-20190520t163415955z

Hi @cardboard, this is something I haven't noticed before perhaps you can give me some clarity.

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The calculation at the bottom says the additional steem awarded will be;

Additional 0.264879134 STEEM (150 STEEM x your share: 0.203753%) is added to your profit through the day. This bonus profit comes from weekly power down.

...whereas (150 STEEM x your share: 0.203753%) = 0,305631

Thanks for the great work you do!

Thanks for the heads up :) the actual distributed amount was right, just on the website formula I forgot to update it from 130 to 150 (it was showing 150 in description but the calculation displayed was for 130). And we should be moving to 160 soon :)

Fantastic! I see you've updated the formula... On the next update, you may wish to amend the following too;

...is added to your profit through the day. :)

I want to delegate 1000 sp to @bitcoindollar

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sorry@tipu, I wrote the contents wrong.
@tipu I want to delegate 1,000 sp

Delegate 1000 sp to @tipu

Here is the delegation link:
steemconnect 1000.0 SP delegation to @tipu.

https://tipu.online is down. I haven't received an investor payment in like 6 hours... I had it set for hourly. What gives man?

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Major servers failure in the company I'm renting VPS. They gonna need few hours to fix it :/

@cardboard The tipu.online website is stuck at only reporting from yesterday? Any reason why my current payouts and upvotes are not being reported for today at the bottom of the page? It has been stuck for almost 24 hours. Thanks for re-enabling token reinvestment though!

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It seems that the data for new month is added at the bottom of the list. Will try to sort it out :)

That's really a nice update from now ill be using it as my no one priority in bid bots.

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If any of you all who follow and believe in the great service of @tipu, you should try delegating SP as an investment... @tipu has one of the highest ROI for your SP delegations! This is another great service side of @tipu for investments opportunities!

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The little character at the bottom right is weird.

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:D you can google "dickbutt", it's a meme actually :) !tip 10 steem

Hi sir I invested 250 steem to tipu, how can I get it back?

Did you delegate? Anyway please go to https://tipu.online :)

🎁 Hi @rufusfirefly! You have received 10.0 STEEM tip from @cardboard!

Check out @cardboard blog here and follow if you like the content :)

Sending tips with @tipU - how to guide :)

Thank you!

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Hi.

Because of the weird thing:

Are you talking about the two spots(like eyes) in the hole on the right side of the arrow? :)

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Ja there a minnow on the right side?

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Dear @tipu, I use your voting service nearly all my posts. Thank you for your reliable voting service.
Although I want 10 Steem I do not recognize any weird thing in that gif.
Thank you for your valuable help to steemit users.

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That roi is after curation cut, right?

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Of course :)

Hello tipu, missing the token payout from today 6/22.

22.06.2019 06:22 0.0 SBD 173.646 SBD (total SBD profit) x 1.197807% (your share) -> 2.08 SBD -> Auto reinvested: 2.08 SBD -> 5.265 @tipU tokens, reinvest ratio: 100%
22.06.2019 06:22 0.0 STEEM 696.732 STEEM (total STEEM profit) x 1.197807% (your share) -> 8.25 STEEM -> Auto reinvested: 8.25 STEEM -> 8.25 @tipU tokens, reinvest ratio: 100%

Could you please check?

Best regards and many thanks for your service!

Sure, will check it out.

Sorry, didnt get this token -i mentioned above- from 6/22 payment im my steem-engine wallet so far.
last token are from 6/21 payment.
So i changed settings to steem/SBD yesterday evening-a payout on my steemit wallet was working already.
Best regards

Weird, but steemit.api is glitchy sometimes :(
@tipu send 14 tokens

perfect-thanks-the tokens are in-i switch now with the stetting again to the token-reinvest setting, which worked perfectly so far -except this one payment.
And you payed me more tokens 14 (instead of 13,515), so give you to full upvotes here for tipu and this answer.
Hope the token-reinvest works again, ist a great job you are doing!
let you know if it dont work.
Best regards!

Oh and you can test the reinvest at any moment - just click the (request) payout button.

thanks man, your service is really great! Checked it out and its working perfectly!
best regards
Steem on!

Thanks! :)

Success! 14.0 @tipU tokens worth of 15.205 STEEM POWER have just been sent to @balte.
@balte - you can check out your new investment at: https://tipu.online.
Please validate the transfer at steem-engine wallet.

On your front page it says "Bonus Profit Sharing Tokens: ACTIVE" This is not true. You guys ran out of tokens earlier today around 5PM Pacific. Are you guys going to release more coins or are you going to buy back more to help pay investors. This was kind of the reason I was planning to slowly move over delegation... now it's gone?

"Bonus Profit Sharing Tokens: ACTIVE" relates to vote buying.
There's no need to treat it personally - @tipU does not have unlimited STEEM POWER to forever make tokens for everyone, sadly.

Over time STEEM POWER coming from curation rewards should allow to make tokens but can't give any eta yet. A lot of this SP is powered down and distributed to investors.

Anyone know what the delegation cut is with Tipu. I have a lot of SP to delegate, thinking of switching to Tipu but only if the delegation reward is +95% to delegators.

Also the gif has a weird cloud on the top right...

Dude, it's 100% + additional steem from weekly power down. There's no cut.

Check out details here: https://tipu.online/investors_data?demo

Currently the only more profitable bot is @appreciator but the @tipu average is slowly increasing and I'm hoping to get #1 spot soon :)

https://www.steemprofit.info/

Thanks for the quick reply. I'll delegate some more to try it out in 5 days then. I have played around with a smaller amount and really like the reinvest option with the token.

Hello @tipu or @cardboard I have tried using your vote buying/promotion service three times today for a vote on this post - https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@conformity/bitcoin-whale-accumulation-is-in-full-swing. And recieved refunds. The post has not been flagged by any anti-spam bots to my knowledge. Can you please find out and let me know what is causing this issue, thank you kindly.

Please check now - should be working :)

Thank you for finding out what the issue is and letting me know. I will try using @tipu again next time time I post something.
Thanks once again for your assistance.

Hi there :) I'm using @themarkymark blacklist api and seems you have been blacklisted by @smartsteem:
http://blacklist.usesteem.com/user/conformity

Can you reach me on discord? https://discord.gg/NDh35gx

This post is supported by $42.0 @tipU upvote funded by @cardboard :)
@tipU voting service: instant, profitable upvotes + profit sharing tokens | For investors.

@tipu profit for 100SP

Yesterday 100.0 STEEM POWER delegated or invested gave payout of:
0.002 SBD + 0.036 STEEM (0.01 USD), APR: 15.85% .

Delegation link: steemconnect 100.0 SP delegation to @tipu.

Please note that your profit can be slightly different (depending on the payout time).

Check out https://www.steemprofit.info to compare @tipU with other services.

Looks like a dragon is behind her shaped like a rock 😉

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She's like sitting in the air on top of a cracked mountain.

@tipu profit for 866 SP

Yesterday 866.0 STEEM POWER delegated or invested gave payout of:
0.05 SBD + 0.209 STEEM (0.13 USD), APR: 14.28% .

Delegation link: steemconnect 866.0 SP delegation to @tipu.

Please note that your profit can be slightly different (depending on the payout time).

Check out https://www.steemprofit.info to compare @tipU with other services.

I Like PROFIT !!!

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Vote for @Steemitboard as a witness to get one more award and increased upvotes!

@tipu profit for 3800 SP

Yesterday 3800.0 STEEM POWER delegated or invested gave payout of:
0.256 SBD + 1.619 STEEM (0.89 USD), APR: 21.82% .

Delegation link: steemconnect 3800.0 SP delegation to @tipu.

Please note that your profit can be slightly different (depending on the payout time).

Check out https://www.steemprofit.info to compare @tipU with other services.

@tipu, 1 question

imagine, that i win 6 steem per day with delegation. Will i win 6 tpu at steem engine if i choose this method? WIll have 1% fee to pay to steem engine?

Yes 6 TPUs. As for fee - only if you sell them on the market and withdraw steem.

ok ok thank you!!!!!

It seems like I am not allowed to withdraw steem or sbd x) Wanted to buy more tokens :p

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If you have problems with withdraw trough the website, please send 0.001 Steem to @tipu with memo: withdraw

Let me know if it worked :)

It worked through sending through 0.001 steem. Thanks!

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Hi @tipu, quick question. Are you guys earning any weedcash from curation? If you are, do you plan to power it up for extra roi on weed related post or distribute as profit share?

Something to think about anyway.

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Should I be seeing weedcash on steem-engine wallet? So far 0 tokens :(

Hello everyone, please can anyone help, i have 100 Delegated Power stuck with tipu, on the website tipo.online it shows 0 delegated, but on my wallet i have -100 (delegated to tipu) how can i fix this?

You need to wait 5 days for the SP to come back to you.

Hello @tipu
Maybe it will be a dumb question... I have about 9000 sp delegated to tipu. Can you transform this on tipu tokens??? 9000sp =9000 tipu tokens... Can you do this mannually?

Thank you

Nope, don't have that many tokens :) And tokens need to be backed by @tipU SP.

ummm ok, thank you!

Hi is the 20% ROI after curation? And if so, do you account for the curation taken by the poster when the post is voted before 30 minutes? Meaning the vote value will be higher when voting after 30 minutes right?
Also is there a way to determine the roi at any moment before voting?

Hi there, thanks for good questions :)
All ROI figures are of course after curation. The "upvote window" is now 15 minutes (not 30) and @tipU will upvote new post at 15 minutes mark - so the curation from the upvote is 25% every time.

The current ROI depends on demand for @tipu upvotes. The more voting power @tipu has (above 80%) the higher the ROI.

Just keep in mind that every upvote request is rewarded with @tipu profit sharing tokens so the ROI is like infinite - it just takes time :D

Yesterday 1000 STEEM POWER delegated or invested gave payout of:
0.046 SBD + 0.4 STEEM (0.22 USD), APR: 18.83% .

Delegation link: steemconnect 1000 SP delegation to @tipu.

Please note that your profit can be slightly different (depending on the payout time).

Check out https://www.steemprofit.info to compare @tipU with other services.

Why isn't there a Steem page for Steem-Engine Market. Would be great for announcing new coins and development of that website / market.

Do you mean steemit page? Steemit is developing their version of the tokens called SMT.

No, I was wondering why there is no page on Steemit for the steem-engine market, like why is there no @steamenginemarket or something.

Hi @tipu. Do you have a bug? I've been tipped by a user and you keep transferring sbd to me (every minute or so) I feel bad about it, so thought you should know

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Yep, there was some strange response from steem api. Please feel free to send back the stem to the guy who tipped you :)

That would be me, @cardboard and there's a bit more to the story... sent you a message on Discord.

Hi I have sp delegated to you. I have some steem and sbd with you too sent long time ago would it be possible for me to get them 2 back (not the delegation) as I want to buy some tpu tokens

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Yep, please go to https://tipu.online and click "withdraw".

@tipu profit for 300 SP

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Yesterday 300.0 STEEM POWER delegated or invested gave payout of:
0.017 SBD + 0.081 STEEM (0.05 USD), APR: 14.88% .

Delegation link: steemconnect 300.0 SP delegation to @tipu.

Please note that your profit can be slightly different (depending on the payout time).

Check out https://www.steemprofit.info to compare @tipU with other services.

I sent 3 steems some time ago and I haven't gotten any vote yet x) Tipu says its voting is active x)

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Got it :) !tip 3 steem

Okay I am confused.
Just received the 3 steem back from you/tipu.
But looking at tipu.online, I have 3 steem in my steem deposit??
Tell me what to do, dont wanna cheat you out of 3 steem xD

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Oh, treat it as a bonus ;) just click withdraw button ;)

You dont want it back? xD

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Nope, it's cool, feel free to use it to upvote someone else ;)

Well thats! :D
I will find someone to upvote :D

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🎁 Hi @cwow2! You have received 3.0 STEEM tip from @cardboard!

Check out @cardboard blog here and follow if you like the content :)

Sending tips with @tipU - how to guide :)

@cardboard - Is @tipu voting? I got a feeling that something got stuck ;-)

Small pause :)

Spoko :-) Ale przy okazji to te TipuTokeny też chyba pies zjadł?

there is a little figure in the lower right corner

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Little thing right bottom, for the weird thing

Come and support
@teamcn-shop!

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你好鸭,tipu!
@minloulou赠送1枚SHOP币给你!

目前你总共有: 1枚SHOP币

查看或者交易 SHOP币 请到 steem-engine.com.

Is the ROI after the 25% curation?

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greetings, @tipu

i adjust to receive my steem power and sbd for delegate in tipu tokens. But, today, i receive in steem and sbd on my wallet

why it happens???
thank you

Please check https://tipu.online for payment information :)

I know this
its here for me: Reinvest In: Tokens
I was receiving my payment in tipu tokens. Just yesterday its not happen....

Because, as the payment info says, @tipu is out of @tipu tokens :) I should be able to make new ones today.

ahhhh ok, i did not see this information

thank you for help me!!!

It makes the value of tokens "to the moon", correct?

We'll see :) but I will be issuing new tokens anyway.

@tipu profit for 20000 SP

Yesterday 20000.0 STEEM POWER delegated or invested gave payout of:
1.536 SBD + 5.416 STEEM (3.55 USD), APR: 17.02% .

Delegation link: steemconnect 20000.0 SP delegation to @tipu.

Please note that your profit can be slightly different (depending on the payout time).

Check out https://www.steemprofit.info to compare @tipU with other services.

Dear #tipu
There is no end to know. I followed you to know. Receive confirmation, stay in love. Thank you

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