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What is the tool you are displaying haejin with?
Thanks

Cyfe Dashboard

Everyone go to https://steemvoter.com/ and set an auto -20% downvote for all of haejin's posts. We might not be able to damage his rep but we can at least deplete his rewards!

Self vote and bots for visibility

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everybody who commented on this is upvoting his own comment lol haha, can you see the parallelism?

You just simply hit the bull's eye, LOL

A reason why is because comments that aren't upvoted are put at the bottom, making them harder to see. I'll upvote mine when I say something that I want to be seen.

Including yourself ... hahaha

@hiroyamagishi you are a cheap fuck who upvotes your followers comments for 2 cents and upvotes your own for almost 2 dollars

iT IS SO SAD....

The rule needs to be improved. Decay factor for repeatably voting for the same person should be added.

brother please give me 1 upvote please please

the content of his post should be related to his reward, and i don't think his post covering technical analysis is worth 300, since technical analysis is not quite reliable it will only loses money from the innocent investors, but it's too late to kill a grown up baby monster.

Wasnt there a post showing his was right like only 20% of the time? Trowing dice would be better investing advice...

Whats the weather forecast's percentage of getting it right?

The weather forecast doesn't ask you for money,
And doesn't prentend to be reliable.

I dont think weather forecaster work for free do they?

but you don't pay them do you?

Upvote=pay
don't want to don't upvote its that simple

Extremely high actually. Weather can be predicted. These markets cannot. If a single Tweet from some one famous could make or break the price of a currency there is no way to know what will happen with the market. And even so he is wrong most of the time...

Investing is not for all I guess.

haejin self upvote.jpg

I guess that you could say @haejin is "5.9%" generous. On a scale of 1 -100, where most people give away a much higher percentage of upvotes, I think this situation is not good for SteemIt and not in the spirit of the platform. This level of self-interest is borderline narcissism.

Considering that haejin has fully exploited & leveraged just about every single thing on the SteemIt platform that he possibly can, I think it's safe to say that he's not a Whale - he is a megalodon.

Just to be honest, he is the one who is in the focus right now, but i believe that enough other people do this on a way lower level. I still think, that self voting should be limited somehow, maybe by percentage or disabling it at certain steem power numbers.

I think the best thing to do is something along the lines of a cap on self upvotes. Or, link the ability to self-upvote with how much you curate and upvote other people's posts. A 50/50 split would create more of a win/win situation. You can only grow as much as you help other people to grow. This would, at the very least, create many symbiotic relationships where people can only do their best by working with other people. However, duplicate accounts would have to be identified to prevent abuse. I don't know if that can be done.

Just to be honest, he ist to one who is in the focus, but i believe hat enough other people do this on a way lower level. I still think, that self voting should be limited somehow, maybe by percentage or disabling it at certain steem power numbers.

Ummm ... I love how the majority of the comments (so far, at 1 hour in) thinks this is a good thing. I guess it proves your point :D the end is near. And everyone is running off the edge of the cliff full “steem” ahead.

Haejin is now always the number 1 self upvoter - as noted on Steem Ocean. So basically, he is free to continue to remain at the top position without being downvoted - unless someone else rises to the challenge of buying enough steem to sit and upvote themselves enough to get their rep up higher than his and then to downvote him. Since the ability to gain ever more SP through self voting is an ever increasing spiral of 'growth' - I think I am right in saying that if nothing is done to remedy this, eventually he would be taking the entire reward pool.. more or less!

Clearly this is a system fault and needs to be addressed. Maybe a cap needs to be in place on earnings as a percentage of the total rewards pool?

Which app did you use?

Self-voted as a form of protest.

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Lots of haters for the top one, lol so controversial

Congratulations everyone! We are now officially haejin little playground!

It's a battle of flag down on top hierarchy but i see haejin is winning the race.

I don’t know what is sadder. The news of this or people leaving comments saying his hard work… Oh fucking hell sheep will be sheep. I hope they at least bought good knee pads. They are going need it.

Seems to me those are the types of people who either believe in his TA or just general comment spammers who have no idea what the hell they are talking about.

With how sad the platform is becoming. Both.

Every one talks about upvoting their posts for higher visibilty and that's valid in some cases...

However, this post brings even less value to steem than @haejin's posts!

Luckily it's one post in a lifetime compared to 10 a day.

I kinda have to admit that this is true...

Reputation is based partly on the power of those upvoting you - so as long as haejin keeps getting upvoted, his reputation will soar.

It probably needs Dan or Ned to downvote to have an effect.

The reputation system seems broken.

It sure is.

  1. haejin
  2. steemsports

Currently we have a situation where 2 top reputation accounts has been accused for serious pool-rape. I think this is clear indication, that reputation system has to be re-implemented.

Why did you stop at 2?

only because I do not know to well history of next accounts in the list.

No, I guess it works perfectly. The fact that it highlights the potential abuse is not something wrong, is it?

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Does this also mean nobody can drive his rep higher?

No

Really? So if I understand this correctly, you can affect someone's rep in these ways:
Increase: When your rep is higher - yes, when your rep is lower - yes
Decrease: When your rep is higher - yes, when your rep is lower - no

Is that right? That seems really flawed.

Anyone can increase rep, even your own votes. It's all purely Steem Power-based. The more Steem Power and weight behind a vote, the more your rep goes up.

Flags are exactly the same way, but there is a gate check if you have more rep, you're allowed to follow the rules above, otherwise no change.

So that basically makes the highest rep person untouchable, until someone else managed to catch up, which takes a considerable amount of rep collecting at that point.

Though I think in this case, bad word of mouth rep does a lot too. But heck, as long as you have a rich backer (or extra account) supporting you, your Steemit rep doesn't matter much anyway.

Rep is virtually meaningless but sets the stage for outside viewing in.

I am not understand.

Reputation is changed only by upvotes and downvotes. The bigger they are, the more they affect the reputation. @Haejin has over one million SP to use for himself, so only a person with more SP than that can affect his reputation, which means that nobody can do that.

Rep is virtually meaningless but sets the stage for outside viewing in.

read above, you should have... if you flag someone with more rep you don't affect it.

We might as well rename Steemit to Haejinit because this platform is being raped and pillaged by Haejin so hard, it's going down the toilet. I would not have a problem with Haejin at all if:

a) He contributed back to the Steemit platform
b) Actually shared his wealth around
c) Didn't continually rape the rewards pool
d) His TA was actually good. Many of Haejin's calls are wrong and I think some of his TA is stolen from other people on TradingView anyway.

Haejin really highlights the problems with Steemit and there is no disputing the facts that something needs to change or this whole platform is just going to die. Even in death Haejin will find a way to rape the corpse of further rewards, I am sure.

Something needs to change.

Hey @themarkymark, what if we added a secondary metric to the reputation score? I toyed around with the idea of a color chart (below) which could be used to get a better assessment of what that user has contributed.

Ultimately, I think reputation scores should showcase flag history, just as they showcase upvote history -

Link to color proposal for rep scores...

I like the idea, but flags are a bad metric. I've had almost 1000 flags in the last week because I fight spam.

I see what you're saying. Well, this might be complicated - but - what if the age of the account was taken into consideration? Flags from older users (ideally ones with a healthier understanding of this community) carry greater weight when it comes to color.

This way it wouldn't be so 1-to-1 when it comes to flags or even steem stake, but more based on longevity within the community.

That would help, but many flags are malicious. You also have situations where accounts have been hacked and flagged a lot, yet recover and then go back to normal. Then you have the fact spammers are rarely flagged as no one wants to waste their stake cleaning the community.

cleaning that does nothing, it's really strange the rep is the only social thing here :D everything else is about money, humm so is rep :D

I remember haejin passing by my blog leaving a link ...
:D pretty much like me now(tell me if you want a link) :D although I'm not looking for rewards on a dead post, huuummm deadpost @whatamidoing I will see you there :D

Good luck with the marks, :( seems only the sky is the limit for haejin :| but he has been here(actively) at least 8-9 months to get that rep, albeit unfairly and unjustly ... my opinion, in comparison to others

good idea but it would never work, well I think it can't because for it to work it has to be a complex equation/ function and nothing complex works for most people, you could aggregate responces, rep of voters and general activity then do some magic(math) and get some wonder looking result, I remember a while back there was a person who was rating posts in the # based on the rep of the voters, that was a great way to show quality and engagement rather than just who's trendy andd who's whale riding ...

steemit is fundamentally flawed. we are throwing rocks at each other but we are no different. All trying to make a buck in a flawed system. If Steemit is to outlast the likes of U Network and other blockchain social media that are gunning for Steemit, it needs fundamental changes. First of all, it needs 2FA for better security. Then get rid of bots.

please shot me.I do not want to live anymore

i don't believe you are the girl in your profile pic

Your not trying to say you are the person in your profile pic :)

those guys are insane hot damn puttin that work on the real

Is the paid voting s only way to be on trending? Here we must raise question to it and steemit developers must remove posts from trending who have purchased votes from bots.

No, Haejin used to take 5+ of the top trending spots all the time until they stopped voting immediately and waited longer. There are groups like Adsactly that don't need bots.

We all know adsactly is just a circle. Shit post on trending most of them.

Sir, what is the reason that every time I commented on@Haejin post. I was downvoted by many people?

Yes exactly it happened to me as well. So crazy people.

Me too

haters attack lol

Got my rep destroyed by @berniesanders for speaking up against racism and censorship on the platform also started of from voting and commenting on @heajin post's

You are either with haejin or against him, if you are with haejin your reputation will take a hit, sure i will kill most of haejin supporters. Stay away from haejin post if u dont like ur rep being hit. I flag many of haejin post, and his supporters are not really that smart so i flag them too.

Im not with Im not against
I am against censorship and feeble threats though.
What gives you the right?

If you dont like it then stay off of his blog.

I'll go where I want I'll upvote what I want
And you or any other bully will have no say in that
the idea of steem evolves around freedom
Its people like you that drive people away feom the platform!
Who do you think you are?

One thing I noticed that they post like 3 times a day and replies their post, so they have moved up the rank through hardwork

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a very interesting post can i take a lesson @themarkymark

I remember I brought this up afew hours ago on @haejin post lol
#79 looked pretty impressive to me. .what most of us are yeaning for.

Thank you for your posts. Loving reading them by the day.

How to be them hahaha

Incredible feat to achieve in a community of forward thinkers. Really great to know this

where did you come from, ... what feat, spam charts and get a collusive whale to pump money out, what feat? I'd be happy if 70k people were upvoting him, that's not the case however, plain bullshit, ...

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People are taking advantage of their innocent followers without any mean.

Hi! I am a robot. I just upvoted you!

SMH SMH 😳

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where did you get those pretty stats?

I make dashboards for a lot of things I want to monitor.

Did you make a post about how to make those? I'm interested.

Game recognise Game. I love that @haejin is keeping strong amongst all the negative energy haters drop. The top 5 you've listed here are gangster the mother%#$ker!!

What is this ? are they an artist ?

yes, one that starts with an S.

Actually I believe that no one ever had that power, since he is using rancho which basically gave him a lot of SP to use. I understand the idea that everybody is able to do what he wants with his stake, but currently this is an example of Steem becoming centralized around a single man, which is breaking the philosophy of blockchain. I wonded... can anybody do anything about it now?

Under current system its just a massive up hill battle. Linear-rewards system needs to go. To be replaced by what and how to make it happen I don't have slightest idea.

Logarithmic rewards maybe :) Well,I don't know if the problem is at how the blockchain is designed of if it just the greed of people which speaks. I guess we should change the people and how they act as a community, not the way the blockchain is designed in order to prevent abusers from manifesting their greed.

Something needs to be done, where are Steemit, do they realise what's happening to their system?

@ned doesn't care. He thinks it's great for traffic!

it's funny that dan would just say, n^2 curve was meant to combat such cases...

The system is perfect

Its just the users are flawed

The Steemit Voting Power extension (which is in no way associated with STEEM or Steemit.com) provides an easy way for Steemit.com users to see their current voting power and daily votes. It also gives an estimated percentage on how close the user is to the next reputation point.deanabruce

Thier strategy work very well and that is not a compliment I can see two of them start to do the same thing dig more out of this platform rather than contributing ... my less knowledge say if this thing still continuing endlessly I'm afraid this platform will come to it end soon ... correct me if I'm wrong

They remind me of Smee when he starts plundering all the gold for himself.

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OMG ...79 reputation when will i ever reached there...this very serious...

fine content exchange i m very happy about the steemit i m very happy

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