The Secret To Success On Steemit: It Isn't Posting Article or Re-Steeming (For Dolphins And Minnows)

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See if this looks familiar:

Excited blogger joins Steemit.com with the expectation of making money from writing about what he or she loves. Said blogger puts up a wonderful post worthy of mention by the local Historical Society, gets no upvotes, complains the system is rigged, and leaves to grace some other site with his/her presence.

Have you ever noticed something like that happening on here?

Of course you have. It is a daily event.

For whatever reason, we all believe that posting article is the most important aspect of steemit.com. Certainly, without content creators, we would have nothing to upvote so it is crucial. However, at present there are over 20,000 daily authors so content is not our problem. Certainly, more is welcomed and your content should not be omitted. Steemit is going to get hundreds of thousands of content providers in the future which is wonderful. However, unless one comes here with a large following from FB or another site, content creation should not be your primary focus.

Also, as much as I discuss upvoting being key, the truth is with low SP, your vote carries little weight. This is compounded by the fact most newer people push their voting power down to single digits so even a 1 cent vote becomes worth almost nothing.

Alas, where is our newbit going to make an impact?

The other day I wrote a post about the value of commenting as it pertains to Google rankings. My understanding is that the Google bot cannot separate an article from the comments. It is only focused upon content and the keywords in that content. Therefore, I suggested that it is best for all of us to leave as many comments as we can. This will help the ranks of Steemit.com which creates a snowball effect. The better the ranking, the more organic traffic received from the search engines, further increasing the ranking.

Obviously, something is working. Last weekend Steemit.com hit 1, 000 in the US in Alexa ranking.

Look at it now:

That is very impressive. This site moved up 221 spots in roughly 6 days. Another few months should see the ranking closing in on the top 100. With 20,000 authors a day posting content, the size of the site is growing exponentially. That said, we still need commenting from each person for the site to really leverage all it can out of each post.

Each week, as being part of @fulltimegeek's delegation committee, stats are compiled showing what each person did. One change in the past week was the addition of length of comments left. In the writeup sumarrizing the week here is what @abh12345 had to say:

@taskmaster4450, who has written comments totaling a humongous 128,915 characters - amazing!

Here is the full article:

https://steemit.com/stewardsofgondor/@abh12345/stewardsofgondor-have-you-been-spreading-the-christmas-cheer

I bring this point up, not to brag, but to stress the importance of quality comments. There are so many writing "great post, thank you", that is gets a little frustrating. While any comment is appreciated, it is best to put a little time into it. Now, I do acknowledge that many who are commenting come from places where English is not the primary language and, for that, I do love all your comments. However, that is not true for everyone.

So why do you want to spend the time writing quality comments?

To start, especially if you are new, you want to be seen. This is how people will get to know you. Remember that epic post you wrote that nobody voted on? Odds are few even saw it. The primary challenge with being new is you are not on anyone's radar. Hence you need to "piggyback" others. Commenting enables you not only to garner the attention of the author but whatever following he or she has. This expands the number of eyeballs who potentially could be draw to your blog.

The second benefit is interaction can take place. While I cede that the commenting on comments tends to be poor on here, it is something that some of us do engage upon. It is really how "conversations" take place. Again, the goal is to be known and start developing the interactions which will be lasting. It takes time and repetition. Simply because someone commenting on what you wrote does not mean they will head over to your blog. In fact, there are many that I comment on their stuff, they reply, yet I do not think they ever read one article I wrote. Nevertheless, they know who I am (partially because there is a chance my comment is longer than the article itself 😄 )

Finally, quality comments mean MONEY. This is crucial to understand. People will upvote comments, hence earning you SP. When we look at the paradoxical cycle we find ourselves wrapped up in on Steemit, I help others by increasing my SP which raises my Voting Power. By commenting I enhance a person's article which helps them and possibly earning myself some extra SP which can be used to upvote others. Therefore, the money you were seeking for the marvelous article you wrote did not arrive because it was paid in the comments section. There is a lot of gold hidden there.

There are a couple schools of thought on this which I need to explain.

The first is how I approach it. In my articles, I upvote every comment. The amount will vary based upon what I feel was put into the comment but each one gets an upvote from me. I came across a number of authors who do the same thing (that is where I got the idea). The ones not voted are those which are seriously over the top AND those by people who comment regularly, upvote themselves yet do not upvote the article. Those people are just scalping upvotes from me. Outside of that, I feel that every comment is worth at least a couple cents for the effort, which does add up over time.

Another approach is often used by those with some serious SP. They are not spending the time going through upvoting every comment. Instead, they only use their VP sparingly which means higher vote percentage each time. This is where some serious money can be made. I have received upvotes on comments paying $6, $8, even $11 just for that vote. Now I admit it isn't a regular occurrence but it does happen.

Would you like me to let you in on something? There are many whales who read the comment sections of posts. I will tell you there is a much better chance of someone with a lot of SP finding you there than him or her coming across your post, especially if you are new.

In conclusion, yes leaving quality comments takes time. It is often difficult to read and article and then add to it. At the same time, most of your comments will go unanswered and not upvoted. There are only a small percentage that get any response. Accept that as part of the routine. Ultimately, you are posting not for a comment back or money, but to add to the original article. The rest is gravy.

I will relate something that happened the other night. There was an article I read which I commented upon written some a long-time member on here. He had a rep over 70 (which isn't the reason why I commented). After leaving the comment, I went about my business cruising around Steemit. About 30 minutes later I check my replies and he posted something. So I went back the article and commented. This went on for about 90 minutes containing a 5 or 6 post by each "conversation".

That part I really want to emphasize is that was a night where I had some VP left to use up before I went to bed. Thus, I was voting at a decent level on each comment. It turns out I was upvoting each of his comments at 28 cents apiece and he was hitting mine at 18 cents. As you can figure out from the math, I took in a buck while he reigned in $1.50 for the exchange. While neither of us got rich off it, with SBD being inflated, my payoff for that exchange is roughly $6 since the price of STEEM is over $3.

Not bad for a few paragraphs.

There is a lot of gold (STEEM) in the comments section. Go mine some for yourself.

If you found this article helpful, please upvote and resteem.

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Great post my dear. One really needs to get interactive on steemit.

Dear @taskmaster4450 I’d like to first say how much I enjoy your writing and I mean that sincerely. I am not a butt kisser and I’m honest. Secondly, I’d like to say how helpful and such a great asset to the steemit community. Please never leave.

That said, I’d like to tell you that I was just having this conversation with someone yesterday and instead of giving me the basic answer it was more like a flippant I’m here for the wrong reason. Well, that wasn’t the case at all. I was actually asking about the breakdown you do kindly supplied in this post.

  1. I’m guilty of saying the system is rigged. LoL as I’ve seen introductions produce upwards of 500+ dollars, and comments or upvotes with less than mine bring in hundreds of dollars, while mine bring in less than pennies.
  2. Those that bring in large followings. I’ve been toying with this idea since I have 5k on FB and major network in the First Nation community. I haven’t figured out how to bring this to them yet.
  3. I’m still not sure how as a new person I’m pushing down my upvote to produce less money?
  4. I loved the info you shared on comments and the new bot, meaning comments should be like this one I’m wroting now.
  5. I’ve found I do not always get much of a response in return, therefore, writing like this has not proven very fruitful for me ... yet.
  6. I’ve also found people comment barely on my posts and at times not very positive. More on the negative.
  7. I was impressed by the stats info you provided as this gives me a clearer picture of things.
  8. The breakdown of comments and money is exactly the info I was looking for so many thanks!
  9. Very helpful to see the difference between SP points, upvotes, etc. with dollar amounts.

Kind regards, Casandra

Thank you @eaglespirit....there are a lot of people on here either who dont know or who do not care. Either way don't let the response of others get you down...you appear to be on a good path to success.

  1. Yes that happens...we all see that...but over time, raising your SP gets you more of the rewards pool
  2. You should...tall them where you are and to follow you over here....this is the future of content creation/social media
  3. Go to steemnow.com and put your username in the upper right hand corner...that should you the voting power...the less VP you have (10% versus 90%) the less the vote is worth....this happens by voting more than 20% a day...or 10 votes for newer people unless you use busy.org to vote since that provides the slider bar.
  4. Yes they should....this is an excellent comment....it makes the post a lot longer.
  5. Agreed...most do not pay any attention to comments...or read their replies tab....sad but it is what it is....that is why it is important that we do...we stand out more.
  6. Most posts do not get comments and people usually spew negative more than the positive.
  7. Thank you
  8. You are welcome
  9. Ditto

Thank you so much for answering me in detail and giving me more information to look up. It seems like a never ending maze sometimes but it will usually always lead me to good sources and people like yourself. Happy Holidays! (:

I saw you in comments, before I ever saw a post!
IT WORKS! Also, upvoting comments in other people's posts is a great way to get exposure. I also threw out some "seed money" but that was mostly from BTC and ETH gains from outside investments. It is going well!

Whoa thats crazy!! Were you answering me or @taskmaster4450? What is seed money and the investments are going well? Thank you @underground!! xx
I saw you upvoted something of mine from the SteemNow site. LOL My head is doing flippy flops.

I'm talking to YOU lol
"Seed Money" means I just gave some away, but like I said it was from the BTC and ETH run up, I was just lucky to have it. I'm just keeping some cash in the safe bet coins and HODLing. Then I moved it to steem right before it tripled. Lucky, LUCKY! But it seems to be a repeatable pattern. Steem lags BTC and the big coins, but the losses are not as bad with Steem either, during the correction phase. That is not investment advice, just telling the story of how I got lucky so I could do the seed money thing. Ever notice how the resteem bots send you like .001 SBD? It's "seed money" but also they get your attention with the memo ;) I mostly used Discord

Okay, the emoji face is a bit more extreme than what mine actually was, kinda. Thank you for explaining Seed Money, that in actuality means you made a Shit Ton. I am happy you are giving back to the community, since I am seeing after nearly 6 weeks there are all kinds. Do you have a bunker too? Anywherez near Colorado? I may come visit. Just kidding!! We have been in the know for a few years now, but its tough out here. I'm lucky enough to have a good job, but if Sh goes down, I'm out here with my booty sticking out (okay it sticks out even without pure chaos.) No worries on advice, I would accept it willingly. I have only jewels and some Silver, even old First Nation Silver and blankets, a 3 month supply of food, gas and water. I'm about to purchase the gas masks and kevlar vests. I still need land! Guess what I got for Xmas, a Crypto Wallet that looks like a USB stick, yeah, with no investment on it .. yet. So if you have any suggestions for crypto Im all ears. And, em yeah the .001 SBD is sooo exciting that I'm running to work all day to get that Doh Re Mi. I actually like Discord A Lot. I'm learning brother, I'm learning. Thank you for sharing and giving. Big Hugs and Happy New Year!! xx

I just went to steemnow.com for the first time... I'm confused by it all... I'm a newbie.. So I ain't rich.. Should I vote less?? Or more. Votes is good? Thanks to both of you for this exchange of valuable information by the way.

Also I'm not giving any financial advice but if your sitting on any sbd think about exchanging to steem on the internal market and powering up in order to gradually increase your vote value.

@shai-hulud can you please clarify how the vote value benefits me as opposed to the person i am upvoting?

Thanks

@temitopebanks first your on the right blog to learn those things.

First have a look at the rest of @taskmaster4450 posts, along with @hitmeasap and @fulltimegeek they all have some great articles to help you understand steemit.

If I had to answer I would say vote value is win win for both people.

Let me put it this way if I had the power to reward your question with say $1 does that make you more or less likley to want to engage with me again?

I'm going to guess more likley right which increases my chances of you seeing my content and hopefully something you like and up vote.

See win win its incentivised comunity and content

Thank you thank you!! I will look into all of this more in details. There's so much to learn! I like it. Heheh

@cloestjean thank you for your comment and thanks. I'm glad you were able to gather some info from this post and I wish I could help you with the figures. I'm having a hard time myself. My scale just showed up and that confused me even more. LOL! I'm sure people like @taskmaster4450 will help us.

Hi @cloestjean @taskmaster4450 put this up a few days it should hep give you a better idea of how voting power effects vote value.

Pissing Away hard earned steem or you can check out my wifes article What I learned Today which is her minnow take on voting power after having read the original post.

I am just a couple months ahead of you. Your points are valid, there is an element of "rigged" here but it is livable. Just hang in there, keep being "real" and it will pay off. Following you because of your thoughtful comment, so... you are doing the right thing!

Awww thank you so much @fishculture! I truly appreciate your honesty and encouragement. It's posts like yours that help. I'm happy that there are people who appreciate being Real. Happy holidays. xx

lol this bitmoji cracked me up haahahhahahhahah @eaglespirit

I'm glad you got a kick out of it @temitopebanks! These emojis crack me up too ... xx

"rigged" is just perception, but for most, Perception = Reality...
It is just like real life, one has to figure out the ways and means to get what they want out of it. So in that sense, I guess it is rigged, as much as real life is. The real trick is to figure out how to get noticed! ;)

Please guys, I still do not have any idea how comments generate Steem and how to get more "Steem power". Would anyone care to explain? Cheers!

This is more or less my situation as well.

ugh, how did I miss this one - with ginabot installed as well!

Sorry about that.

Of course i agree whole-heartedly with the points raised, and it's great to see the focus on the alexa rankings, and how the google search engine will boost Steemit as long as we have plenty of active commentary.

Thanks a lot for the mention, that post did seem to gain some traction throughout the week :)

Cheers!

Asher

Good day @abh12345

I could say the same to you...you were the one who posted the article first with the mention in it for me.

Yes it does appear that some people took the article to heart and started commenting...at least here. Hopefully, they get in the habit of taking that practice to all other posts they read. It is something that will really enhance the site as we move forward.

This is spot on, I just joined recently and after my intro post all I've done is comment, even though I have some posts close to ready. A couple tips:

  1. Comment on posts you are interested in. If you're interested comments will flow naturally. It's hard to add anything of value otherwise.
  2. If the post is something you enjoyed, tell the poster why and maybe add what you'd like to see in the future from the poster
  3. If you have a suggestion make it, the other day I posted about a tv show review and added a suggestion of a similar type of show, this spurred a small conversation.

Overall just post and upvote on things you are interested in, enjoy, or have been helpful to you. If you spend a few minutes with a comment both authors and readers will be more likely to upvote, converse, and follow you.

Nice article tasky

Thank you for the extended comment @jakeybrown.

Since you came on here I am very impressed with what you are doing. At least with my posts, you jump right in. That is wonderful to see. You will be extremely successful on here.

Thank you for the kind words and good topics, your posts have really helped me out

Is Jakey your protégé, @taskmaster4450? I hope so, I will shadow him as well!
I need to do that for @overkillcoin's new kid also :D

Yes he is....doing my best to get him to 1000 SP while the SBD are still paying something.

That would be greatly appreciated.

spot on @jakeybrown comment on post you enjoy not just for commenting sake

Holy beans. I found your post because I'm still somewhat new here and trying to figure out the dynamics of everything. I spent my first month-ish just trying to post daily and commenting/voting on other people with similar interests (or things that I am interested in, but not good at writing about!)

Some of these posts are so technical that I just feel immediately overwhelmed by all the information. I know this is a bit of an older post, but I wanted to thank you for it anyway!

@taskmaster4450 - the truth is that a lot of steemians do realise that commenting on trending posts do fetch them author rewards and post the most mundane stereotype comments (copy and paste literally). Therefore, in a trending post, half the comments will be worthless spam out to earn a quick buck.

Lot of times, I do feel that quality newbies with good post get sidelined and ignored because they don't know how to get better exposure and because of that steemit has a huge divide - the whales who get spammed with a gazillion comments for every post of theirs that earn 100s in rewards, and the poor newbies, many of who jsut feel underappreciated, get nothing for their hard effort, feel disillusioned and leave.

I have personally posted more than 2-3 dozen quality articles I wrote (each of 1000 words or more) and I'm somebody who's had a pretty decent run as a published author - and yet all my earnings on steemit in 3 months is worth less than what a single trending post often earns :) .. that's the irony of it.

Anyway, these days, I do take time out to post more comments than post articles in the hope I get more followers so that when I post articles, I get decent readership. It took me a couple of months to realise this though.. better late than never... :)

THanks for the insightful post btw.. enjoyed reading it..

Watching how this site is, I think that what you said is a core problem that the devs are going to need to fix. It reminds me of the reply girls on YouTube, and then the fake giveaways. What I always wonder is what will happen next after they fix it, and what new issues will arise.

This post is excellent advice to newbies and I completely agree! Let me throw in my support:

The way to success on Steemit is to find some people who write something that you like, read it, and indeed engage with them in the comments section.

Even after months on this platform, I still don't make much from random visitors to my blog.. the retention rate is really low from randoms too. The main source of my income is definitely a select group of followers who are in fact the exact same group of people who I talk to a lot on this platform.

It's all about making some friends, and supporting eachother as friends and the very best way to do that is to make some great comments and get some conversation started!

The irony is that if you're doing this solely for the money, you will fail. But if instead you try to have some fun, make some friends and have some laughs, you'll find that it works a lot better and is a lot more fun! Stop handing out your upvotes to people because you think it'll make you money. Instead, give it to those who you connect with online and scratch their backs, so they may scratch yours. Community is key!

Great post @pandorasbox.

I am doing this for the money...well the SP....I need my SP to keep growing so I can have more VP. I gets addicting to get the reaction from someone relatively new when I give them a 100% upvote. You would think they won the lottery....that is where my motivation comes from.

As I was reading your comment, the thought of communities came to mind. I think that will really help eliminate the need for "randomness" since, like you said, it is low retention rate. Communities could well put together strong groups of like minded people who are interesting in the same subject. Even within their "community" they can keep upvoting and commenting on each other to the point where their accounts will grow nicely.

Hell, there might be a post somewhere in what I just wrote. I will have to give that some thought.

Yes! I'm so looking forward to communities! I'm doing okay now, but a few months ago I was really struggling and being able to stand out in smaller communities would've really helped me. I think this is key for small minnows and will allow them to exist, grow and even thrive perhaps. Right now they just can't get through the shouting match that is the Hot and Trending pages. All they can hope for is a random passerby from the New section.. and how many dolphins and whales sift through that? Almost none... But in communities the whales and minnows would easily mingle and meet!

Especially if it evolves like Reddit, where /r/btc is the go to place for Bitcoin news.. We need Steemit Bitcoin communities where people come to visit to read the latest news! Even a newbie could make a valuable contribution and get noticed, just like on reddit.

And yes, making money while socializing is totally addictive. I too kind of get a kick out of doling out upvotes even though I can't give too much yet. Sometimes I get hit by a whalevote and my mind is blown.. right now I have one comment that three whales upvoted to $10 and I'm like "Whoa!!" and even moreso with today's SBD prices. I mean, whoa!!

I believe that communities will be similar to Reddit, from what I understand. It might be supposition on the part of some but I believe I was reading a post by the developers who talked in that manner...in fact, it cited Reddit and their userbase...so I feel it will be similar...

It is hard in the continually moving stream to get noticed. Communities will eliminate that completely.

Steemit being the defacto news source for people would be amazing...you arent the first person who mentioned that to me...it is a wonderful idea.

This is great discussion man, I do think people underestimate the value of a good comment. That's always my advice to new users. I think you hit the nail on the head about long and quality comments.
I think it's important to leave them on things your passionate about and interested in, it will come through.
There's nothing worst than lame comments on all the whales posts, use them to add real value to the conversation and open discussion.
"Good job, interesting read" are always so lame.

Thank you for the comment @phelimint.

Obviously, I agree completely. Quality comments show appreciation for the work of the author. I surmise that most of the comments you refer to are by people who do not even read the article. I mean seriously, I can read an article on a subject I know nothing about and at least re-phrase something the author wrote. Not saying that is a quality comment but it does at least show I skimmed the article.

There are a lot of vote seekers...those who troll comment sections seeking upvotes since a lot of authors reward those who comment.

Yeah don't get me started on the damn vote seekers, I can't believe the bot algorithm that make comments on some posts, they somehow extra some text from your post and reword it as a question or soemthing. It's getting to be so much.

Finally, quality comments mean MONEY. This is crucial to understand.

I have no statistics to back this up, but I’d be willing to bet that there are at least some Steemians who make more from their comments than they do from their posts.

A few months after I joined, a comment of mine got a $17 upvote from a whale which probably equaled what I’d gotten from all of my posts that month combined.

$17? Damn @preparedwombat....that is killing it. I imagine you were a happy camper with that one.

I hope it was recent, that would really swell the return with SBDs paying over 3 steem.

Are you surprised an article that mentioned the merits of commenting doesnt have any more comments than usual?

I hope it was recent

It was maybe four or five months ago. SBD might have even been below a buck. 😁

Are you surprised an article that mentioned the merits of commenting doesnt have any more comments than usual?

Patience Grasshopper, patience.

You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make it drink. Leading by example is the way we influence others. ;) By being prosperous with the comments, people will see the results. I had a party with my clan yesterday and we talked a lot about Steemit. One of my clan members actually opened an account almost a year ago but did nothing with it. Now that they have seen the results, I suspect a good part of my clan will become active in short order.

Thank you for your efforts in bring this to others.....

I, too, mentioned it to others yet did not have success interesting them in it. Perhaps I should re-visit it with them while sharing my results.

Thanks as always for your input and interaction.

Very true @preparedwombat ... I remember getting a $12 upvote on one of my comments from @blocktrades... I hadn't even made $12 on Steemit yet

I must agree with your views on this. I find for myself that I LOVE the interaction that I get on posts. I get more value out of that then the upvotes. With that said, it has equated to more upvotes, traffic, awareness and friendships.

As with anything in life, how we interact with people results in prosperity for those involved. People notice those who engage, ask meaningful questions, are respectful and genuine. It is difficult to express our feelings through an interface such as this, which makes face-to-face interaction the most meaningful. However, by spending time to articulate how we feel and what we think can make an emotional connection to others which helps build the bonds we need to be successful on any social media platform.

Our capacity to connect with others is where the importance rests. Our willingness to give and help others also works very well too. I know my own success took a shot upwards when I started being way more generous with my steem, time and words.

I think your views here are accurate. Thank you for articulating the ideas to help others.

As always thank you for your imput @wwf.

Interaction is the key for this entire platform. Commenting is one of the ways that we not only read what someone took the time to write, even a comment, but also that we appreciate it.

So many seem to think it is about them...when it is us. Communication is a two way street.

On Steemit.com, givers get....

Indeed. This platform functions on the prosperity model rather than scarcity model. We have had conversations about that in the past. The more we 'give' the more we 'get'. But if we are looking to receive, it won't come nearly as quickly or abundantly. This platform helps teach this paradigm shift which we can then bring into our lives in other areas.

This is a microcosm of life itself...as above so below.

Starting to conduct ourselves on a higher level on here is good practice for us to apply it to other areas. When we think of others, we set the natural laws of the universe into action....

The way the world has operated thus far is ass backwards....

Indeed, comments are a marvelous way for everyone but newbies in particular to get some golden interaction and meet people. It is a hidden treasure and will get great results in both rewards and contacts. Another fantastic article, @taskmaster4450!

I agree with you taskmaster. My comments flowed naturally on the posts which I find interesting and money follows after that. It is a good strategy to spread your tentacles by commenting on other people's post which you specially liked.

I never knew the Importance of commenting until now. Thanks alot for enlightening me

It is sad when authors that post good content leave because they are not noticed. We have to remember that this is a social platform and without being social and interacting with others it is not possible to succeed. So like you say, commenting is important, maybe even more important than publishing lots of content on your own page.

Great points @fanstaf.

While we have a responsibility to open ourselves up to newcomers and help them out, we also need to remember that many come on here with misguided expectations.

It's simple, if nobody knows you, nobody will see your publications, you must comment so that people see you and go through your blog.

If you're new and smart, chances are you'll win a lot more commenting than publishing, because in the comments section you can indiscriminately win votes of more than one dollar, something unlikely to happen in the publication of someone without many followers.

Your post is like my check list.
I like commenting and sometimes i also write a comment longer than the post :) it is fun and you can get some attention of the poster and even readers. This is imo the best way to get readers and followers for your steemit account.

I also upvote every comment on my posts with few cents and am happy to see them.

I have noticed just how beneficial commenting on author's posts can be. Usually when I write a comment, I try to stray away from the 'great post, thank you' type and try to put something substantive about what I thought or a question that I had. Thanks for reiterating the importance of this aspect of steemit, upvoting and resteeming so many others can benefit from this as well

Regards from @conradsuperb

These are the throughout and in depth advice posts I live to see! Just recently coming over from FB I have been accustomed to the interactions that post comments facilitate. This is what first had me so active on that platform. The senseless back and forth "circular debates" is what drove me away. I believe that there is real value in social media and when properly utilized it can be a very powerful tool. Revolutions have been successful as a result of social media. I see a lot of potential here on Steemit; we are better able to cater our feed to our interests and not bogged down by advertising. And here is this post you have touch on a very important aspect of keeping a community like this engaged and productive - INTERACTION - it is what keeps people coming back, fosters conversations and the exchange of ideas and helps develop relationships that can span oceans. Thank you for your insight and

I noticed that most comments made after the first five comments are usually less regarded. Not everyone is patient or bored enough to be reading through comments so...even when you make comments,they are likely not gonna be read.. @taskmaster4450 do you understand?

Awesome article, thanks for a great read. - Resteemed!

What you've laid out here is also the exact reasons that I do what I do. Even though I personally believe that all authors should focus on their own blog for starters, (upvote & reply to all comments).

One should comment on other authors articles too. That's what I've been struggling with. To find the necessary time to do it.

Between the time it takes for me to write, edit and publish my own articles, the time it takes me to respond and upvote comments on my articles I also spend time to read and upvote content...

And truth to be told, there's not much time left after that.

However, I'm trying to come up with a more appropriate solution for it, as I know that comments are extremely valuable not only for myself, but for the authors as well.

Great comment and I agree....it gets tough to do it all when things get rolling...I understand how easy it is to fall behind. I was gone most of the day and I am just now catching up....I even had to set up a hot spot to get on here.

Yeah I hear you!
I've honestly thought about having some sort of 2/5 schedule. 5 active days per week on Steemit. (With the last 2 days as a bonus/extra).

3 out of these 5 days, I'll write and publish articles myself. Respond to comments & upvote content.

The remaining 2 days, would be similar but I would not publish articles myself. Still upvote content obviously, but focus on commenting on other authors content instead.

I haven't been able to decide yet though, but I will do some changes for 2018.

If you figure it out, please share with me... it would be helpful to know what works.

hehe yeah, I will! :)

This is very high quality post for newbies. Thanks for writing this as it gave me ideas what to do more on Steemit. I started commenting more and today, I got $2.3 pending upvote from @sweetsssj and it was real surprise for me. I also get more and more upvotes on other comments and posts too than before. What I found worthy is to read posts consciously. It not only gives us ideas what to comment but also brings the value to the reader. So, reading is the healthy process :)

When I first joined in mid-July 2017, I was unsure what to do and how this all worked. I would post anywhere from 1-4 posts a day (mainly gardening orientated) and I would spend hours commenting and cruising through other homesteading and gardening posts. I found I LOVED commenting and noticed after a week or so that I was receiving more UPvotes and interaction from my replies.

So I continued commenting, found my rhythm and continued making my own posts.

I am on steemit about 10-14 hours a day, as it is my job and of that time, about 80% is spent prowling around finding new interesting members, spreading @fulltimegeek's delegation and commenting.

I am trying to make it my job...right now it is just an addiction lol.

Always great to see you on here @goldendawne.

Thank you for this advice for a newbie like me @taskmaster4450 Been here for almost a week and I was getting frustrated by how other post with less effort got more upvotes than those which took time to make. I have posted a few long content because I noticed that people don't even see me. I intend to blog about travel but I feel it will be a waste and my post will get buried easily. Thanks to your article, I will postpone my blogs for now and just comment and interact more. I actually enjoy it because people really do talk to you. Last night I posted about something really personal. It didn't get much upvote but concerned people left genuine and heartwarming messages.

The funny thing about Steemit is that I sometimes get more from my comment on people's blog than I make on my own post....

Recently I have learnt the art of commenting on people's post, but one thing I discovered is that it's pretty difficult commenting on people's post if you don't take time to read the post, that's why many just get on your blog and comment nice post..... Last week i was reading a post from one of my followers, she was seeking an advice for a particular problem she's been having and hopes readers can give their opinions that might be helpful in solving her problem. While I was reading some comments and upvote go the good ones, I stumbled upon a particular comment that said "Good Post" and I was like Wtf is good about this post, did you even read at all?

The truth is you cant get involved, if you are not involved

That's the logic, you can't get what you can't give. You can't get the attention you can't give to others..

I hope Steemians can understand this fact. Thanks for affirming my idea about commenting on others posts.

The World is yours 🌍

Yes reading the post itself is important.....

Keep at it...I agree that there are times when there is more interaction from a comment at times than an entire post.

Really helpful to begin to understand some things about this platform. I'm quite new here but it appears to me as there are two different approaches as a minnow, one is what I'm going to call tactical, which implies trying to know the more or less tricky ways to get more of everything (followers, upvotes, SP... all the way to money, be it fiat or crypto); the other way I'm going to call it natural, which means write what you want to write, read what you want to read, comment what you... and so on, just let you be and wait and see... I'm not judging, just my humble and short thoughts on the topic. Thankx for the helpful post!

Two interesting approaches...but both will work well...over time.

Thank you for the comment @crytopeter.

Yes, in fact I guess most of us mix both, with half looking for ways to get more SP and half just writing whatever you feel and trying to learn from others and have some fun. Thanks for your reply.

One thing that got me from the start is engaging with the authors whose articles i find interesting.It's in this way that you get to know more about them, finding gems and friends along the way. This is the beauty of Steemit, even before learning that comments can be upvoted, and this was still in 2016.

I think it is safe to say that we have come a long way since 2016.

Being only on here 4 months, I noticed a big step forward since I joined....it has to be light years away from you.

Indeed we have..but i noticed that as u get on deeper, facts and imperfections are becoming blatant compared to a newbie. Makes you want to change the platform and make it perfect, if there is such a wanting from those who actually can.

Yes the ole ignorance is bliss deal...

As we peel the skin of this onion away, we do realize there is more here than meets the eye...which is both good and bad.

We all do have a responsibility to try and improve things...as difficult as that is at times.

I’m actually guilty of thinking it’s all about posts
I have had one post per day since I became active but haven’t earned enough from it

I’ve recently been trying to get into the commenting part, i’ve Actually come to realize that commenting is the only way to create a connection with other steemians. It really helps foster commitincation which is important here

The challenge I have sometimes is that some posts that I’d love to comment on are extremely long to read but I still try to read it finish before commenting other times I just give up and check for another to comment on

I hope I get used to this tho
Thanks for the motivation

Excellent breakthrough.

There are times when you get more money from comments than entire articles. People upvote comments...especially those with a lot of SP....they tend to reward good content wherever it comes from.

yeah, i got to figure that out later

Definitely some good points @taskmaster4450.

Aside from just the "financial success" issue, I'd also say that writing quality comments has a long-term impact here, in the sense that this community is ultimately trying to establish itself and grow as a social content venue... and "social" doesn't amount to much (or look attractive to potential newcomers if there isn't any interaction.

It also makes more sense to "interact well" with content that really appeals to you-- and build a following around that, slowly than just blasting "nice post" on the next 500 items that come through the "new" feed.

I can't agree more...the ones who post the nice post fail to add a lot to the site....people really need to consider the long term ramifications of it all...

Commenting helps the author, the site, and the one commenting.

Rather than writing articles I prefer to comment on the articles which I like.

I just want to see Steem as a platform of interaction where we learn, earn, and interact.

You said it right that google can't differentiate article with comments. Both are a single content to them. If we write more comments on every article then it will add more content keywords and make it visible in the search engine

After trying to explain this to my daughter and not really making an impact I might just try getting her to read this herself!

Well said, and might i suggest ChainBB for commenting? Maybe it's just me but i found the BB format a lot easier when it comes to getting a discussion going. :)

Keep preaching the truth.. that's exactly how I got some of the people on my side who's upvote is worth something.. by leaving thoughtful comments and engaging them in conversation about their post... people love to talk about themselves when given the opportunity... giving them that opportunity... or even better yet encouraging that opportunity can be very profitable.. plus the relationships that get built are amazing...

I also upvote comments on my blog according to how thoughtful and meaningful they are... I think that is the best way.. people who get a .01 upvote will wonder why a different person got .15 ... when they read the comment they know why and hopefully it teaches them that better comments equal better upvote..

Posting when you're new is a bit wandering in the wilderness and howling into a storm.

Far better to find a cozy house where the lights are on and the conversation is flowing. Isn't a blessing that you're invited? Head on in! Talk to the folks inside about what they love, what they want and what they need.

The more you talk, the more you help them build their house. Patch the roof. Add a game room. Set up the nursery. Convert some unused space into a guest room.

Is it any surprise some of these folks might follow you back to your tiny cottage in the woods and help you start turning it into a proper place to live - and hold parties of your own?

I totally agree. Quality commenting is probably the best thing you can do when starting out. It’s really not complicated and should come organically. Find great content your are interested in and engage, I’ve picked up a lot of followers this way and it’s helped me get over that beginners lump that dooms so many to leave the site.

I never thought about the added benefit of increasing content and boosting rankings for Steemit. That’s fucking awesome. I think we all have been trained to avoid the comments section because it’s an endless pit of trolling and hate on the rest of the internet. Steemit has been able to avoid this as far as I’ve witnessed. You can actually make friends down here, instead of just collecting death threats😜

I do this a lot, having spent time understanding steemit. and has it worked? Yes, but not as much as i expect.
but am gonna keep going...thanks for this, its more like an assurance

I have learned more from reading your post than any others. You turned me on to @mariannewest and I even started creating a daily postal tips post. @taskmaster4450 you rock and I'll keep reading your post through out the new year.

I am glad I could help. It is always good to see people take some suggestions and then grow into what they are to become on here. We all help each other until one finds his or her niche.

It makes me happy that you joined @mariannewest in her daily writing group. That is a wonderful group of people she is assembling.

Is there an upvoting etiquette about upvoting your own posts? Sometimes I upvote my posts when I'm near 100% and don't have time to explore new content.

My view is that upvoting is for quality content and I am sure you feel that you produce quality content. I feel upvoting your posts is fine.

I do not upvote my comments though. Having articles upvoted helps to get attention and push the article forward.

Just my views.

Thank you for this answer. I think you're exactly right. I try to put out quality content daily now. Sometimes I would just like a comment, just to see someone is reading them.

I am quite new, and I figured out quality comments are worth it on my own, but you added depth to that hypothesis. Ty.

One thing I would like to add: to me it seems that it's not only about how you comment, but also when. Especially when you have a new quality post out, you should be hyperactive commenting the post of people with a similar field of expertise to get their attention. A few might even click on your profile, and then maybe read your new post. One of the few ways a newbie can get attention to his posts.

Timing is everything in life as they say.

I really like the beginning it gave me a chuckle😂 I feel like I came to this site with dreams of grandeur but realized that it’s a lot more work than it seems. For now I’m using this site for fun and knowledge. I’ve recently been spitting out some useless facts to my family and friends around the dinner table. And that’s what life is about 🤷🏽‍♂️

All you have said I've found quite true. I just got my percentage slide for voting last week. Finally have some steempower to disperse. Like the idea of up-voting comments, now that I have some, be it but small power.

Congrats on getting the slider....

And your power will grow...just keep posting, commenting and upvoting...it never changes.

This is great info I'm taking to heart.

I'm new here in steemit and I'm finding it is much more than what I thought it was. I plan to focus on cryptocurrency talk, but I will also keep things a bit personal as to create a bond between myself and any followers or future followers.

Thank you for this!

As someone who is still relatively new to steemit, and with a tiny following, I can definitely vouch for the value of quality comments.

Being new to the platform, it is unrealistic to expect huge financial incentives straight up. After-all, the value in a post is based on how many people it has reached, and impacted.

You could write the greatest love story in all of history, but if no one has read it, than you have changed/impacted no one life, and hence, while it sucks and seems unfair, your post to society/steemit community is not worth very much (at that point in time).

Quality comment provide a lot of value to both you and the author.

To you (because lets face it that's probably what most people care about), there is an opportunity to make some $$. In fact, while it is a bit sad to admit, some of my comments bring in more than the majority of my posts :P!!! Additionally, by providing quality comments, particularly on good or interesting articles, you create a mini-advert for yourself, signalling people to check you out.

Anyway, that's enough from me. I am writing this literally on the dawn of Xmas in China. So if you're reading this, I just want to say Merry Christmas, and I hope you get to spend the day doing what you love, and being surrounded by those you cherish the most!

All the best,
@strongerbeings

If a tree falls in the woods and nobody hears it, did it make a sound?

The same with posts...they can be great but without readers they are for naught.

This truly answer a bunch of questions for newbies. But becouse of that, Steemit has a huge problem to face:

  1. The more Steem Power a user gets, the less incentive to make quality content.
  2. The less Steem Power a user have, more incentive to make quality content, but, the less (almost no) chance of getting reward for its effort.
  3. The more Steem Power a user have, the more comments he will get.
  4. The less Steem Power a user have, the more comments he will make on big accounts.

So basiclly, Steemit incentives are not alligned into making valuable content, but in acummulating power.

How are they going to fix this? Of course, im not generalizing, amazing content is being created by whales... but... LOTS of shit is created becouse of this reason.

Just some thougths... cheers!

I'm quite new compared to a lot of users on here and I've found that commenting is growth on this website. If you make genuine comments that add to the conversation or add to the original post, engagement will occur. This engagement can mean growth to your followers! I've made more followers from commenting than I have from my actual posts. These followers then come and check out my posts and it's a nice little incentive to see engagement within the community from everyone.

Very good @branbello.

It is a nice circle that works well but one needs to start by posting some comments.

I have been told that it’s better for new users to also dedicate time chatting in discord and of course commmenting as you said.

Although having some posts I believe is necessary so when people visit your profile they can see isn’t empty.

I think so too. I had been leaning in this direction since I read in the API docs that a comment is a post under the hood.

However, I would also conjecture that the Google evaluations get some tailoring through machine learning and human curation as steemit becomes more prominent (perhaps even breaking 1,000 triggered something of that sort).

Again, pure conjecture on my part —though I did briefly work as curation drone for a Google contractor, and also a long time ago at a SEO conference I heard things like that do come into play (or at least they did back then)

This is good stuff @taskmaster4450... as a minnow, this helps confirm for me that what I'm already doing (just trying to get involved in the conversations) is the right way to go. Re-steeming this gem.
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Thank you for resteem.

Keep it up...we are at the early stages on this blockchain....you are in the right place.

I wish I would have read this back in May when I joined! I figured this out over the past month and it has increased my interest in Steemit as well as rewarded me. Minows...read this! It is the truth!

Great post!

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Thank you! I'm new here and I'm just learning my way through steem from post like this. It's a little mind boggling to think a website pays you to create content like steemit does! It's almost surreal. It's all about cooperation!! It really brings people together. I love it!

It is all real lol....

Welcome @closetjean...we are glad to have you join the party.

Thank you!!

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