Hello people.
So, I bet some of you may be asking "Why Am I getting Liquid STEEM from Post Rewards?"
Well, this happened in our community's discord when @sames came forward with the interesting fact that he got SBD, STEEM and STEEM POWER - not just SBD and SP as usual.
We were baffled... but then I called the guy who always knows about this stuff - the Imperial Tax Man @eonwarped.
Eon already knew what was up, he's a smart cookie, and he knew this was a possibility documented here.
Now, why is this happening?
Now, let's take a look at some geeky stuff to answer that question.
Here's Some Geeky Stuff: Answering the Question.
I advise you to read the post I shared above as it goes over everything in great depth, but I'm going to share that this event is happening due to the debt ration.
SBD supply: 10794352.127
Feed price: 1.974
STEEM supply: 265609473.061
Current numbers are for a debt ration of 10794352.127 / (1.974 * 265609473.061) = 2.05%
This means what?
It means we are now on the point of liquid STEEM printing!
SBD isn't going to be printed if STEEM doesn't go back up, and for now SBD is getting slower printing rates.
Here's an excerpt from that post I mentioned:
The main takeaway?
- If the SBD's portion of the virtual supply exceeds 2 percent, we start to throttle the SBD production, and at 5 percent, SBD stops being produced altogether. (We get paid in STEEM instead).
Something we should all consider is what impact this will have.
What Impact Does This Have?
Well, the are a couple of possibilities on the table.
First of all, if STEEM goes back up then this trend will be reversed.
However, if it doesn't, the trend will continue, which could affect the prices and have an impact that is still hard to predict.
As far as I know, there are two main variables to consider...
If SBD stops being printed and people start getting paid in STEEM instead, then thanks to the fact people will still use bots who get paid in SBD, the price of SBD may rise thanks to diminished supply and increased transactions on the buy side.
This will pump the SBD price up and so you can profit from holding.
On the other hand, this also makes the price easier to manipulate by whales who may be keen on getting the SBD pegged to the USD again and keep it there, so it may actually go down even more.
In Conclusion:
It's here and it's happening... the impact isn't going to be easy to predict right now.
Let's wait a bit and see the course this will take.
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Interesting - I never heard about that one before... Thanks for bringing this up!
No problem Atmos... yeah this is a new one for us.
I just looked at my author rewards and indeed i got paid in steem instead of steempower. It was just 0.002 steem but still xD.
For now I'm just holding no matter what happens. And lets hope for the SBD pump to come to get more steempower :D
I dont know, price is rising again...
same
Holy crap! Thank you for that post. It showed me the way to @eonwarped, who I'm following now, because I finally understand this:
I've been thinking for months now why people would buy SBD on the market at these ridiculous prices. I've seen buy orders on Bittrex for 13 USD per 1 SBD. Until today, I have concluded these buyers did simply not take the time to study or understand the way Steem works, or maybe were just blinded to the total supply at that time.
But now, I can see under what conditions SBD really becomes a limited (and thus valuable) asset.
The world makes sense again to me.
Thank you for that!
Odd. I had the opposite reading of the market. I don't have much faith in their understanding of steem's internals :) . But you may know something I don't about the wisdom of the market.
Certainly around that time of 12$ SBD there was an air of "SBD to the mooooooon!" attitude. I attribute the spike to just general excitement.
One thing to keep in mind is that even if 5% of steem market cap is hit, it doesn't mean SBD will shut down forever. As the steem supply continues to grow and have value, the ratio will start to go down until it starts to produce again. In effect, the inflation rate of SBD will be rather pinned to STEEMs inflation in some way.
No, but now I understand there is the possibility that the production of SBD's is capped, due to the supply exceeding a certain percentage of debt.
Capping supply while demand stays constant can lead to price jumps, so at least now, while very hypothethical and still very unlikely, I can see some sense to betting the market that way.
Previously I just thought these people were just burning away their money. Personally, I don't hold SBD's, I don't see those as an investment. And besides, SBD's don't contribute to voting power :)
Ah okay, I see how you are thinking now. But few months back, would be really impressive to see them predict the current situation, and even that may not go the way they think.
Agreed on other points.
No prob man, yes @eonwarped is the go-to guy for stuff like this. Quite a little genius!
YES He is! Whattaya mean LITTLE?
What a time to be alive :)
haha I just literally LOLed 😀
Indeed!
I totally agree! :-)
Did I join at the right time or Am I too late? Looking to get me some of each of those two coins.
Thank you for the information. I have been watching from a distance. Now it is time to learn by doing.
You arrived at the drop, so I say right time to get in, plenty of time to prepare for the mooning.
I checked Steemit to see if any rewards came in and saw the liquid Steem and was baffled.
Trust that the Empire would be on top of it and get an explanation from the Tax man!
It could go either way but I take anything that will make me inch closer to my SP goals for this year!
On to being a sugar dolphin!!!
LOL!
Well, @eonwarped is "da man" to go to for stuff like this. Plus, trend is reversing, steem is rising.
i wonder at what steem price it will hit the 5%, maybe 0.82. If the author rewards become totally liquid steem payout, is there any other trigger elsewhere that we can get SBD ?
By buying it or when the printing resumes.
But the trend is reversed anyways.
thanks man
I don't get any steem . Anyways thank you for providing this information. I appreciate it
I'm still getting it today.
This happened in the past also!
Maybe, wasn't here yet.
Me neither, but I was informed about this one
Wait hold on,
Does it mean that people should buy more steem? (I kinda sensed that it was logical to buy more)
Well, with lower prices it's time to buy.
My logic is correct, even if I want to buy more Steem that it was too expensive for me buy externally because of the expensive fees.
Oh I wish that there is another way though...
Yeah, I'm kinda where you stand too!
Thanks for the post. I am still new (45 days). I was wondering if that Steem reward was an occasional thing. Again, thanks for those percentages.
No problem! Glad I could be of help!
whats the code to insert this kind of insert of text ?
You just type ">" and space.
Oh this is interesting! I just noticed like an hour ago that we're getting liquid steem as rewards. If SBD stops being printed, then I think we will see the price going up really nicely. But of course, it could go the other way around.
Yeah, because of the manipulation... but I'm hoping it goes up and reverses the trend.
Thanks for the info, I just wrote about waking up to steam being under 2.00 (I'm in Canada) and wrote about it today. "Obstacles are detours in the right direction." ;)
Nicely put Tressa ;)
Everyday I pass here I learn something new about the platform and people. Let's see what I get form my upcoming rewards.
I already started getting liquid steem myself.
I don't know why someone would want to keep the SBD in low values? especially if the person is active in steemit.
I am confused too...I guess that's what the 'investors only ' will want.
Well, there's a lot of stuff to be read on that subject, each one has a different opinion.
thank you for this info. I did not understand anything this morning when I log in.
It started happening to me already.
I had two payments like that, I could not even recover where I was paid for?! Will all the rest be like that?
I thought Steem was the actual coin, and that with sbd you could do not much more as change it into steem? When we get paid in Steem that would be better then, no? At least when people would invest into steem power? Oh my god I feel so stupid, I would have fewer problems I think when I would read it all in Dutch. Or still not also possible of course.
They are 2 different tokens.... steem and sbd. And then you have sp which is invested steem.
Je kan de stukken uit de whitepaper over Steem, SBD en Steem Power terugvinden in het Nederlands (of dat het allemaal veel duidelijker maakt, weet ik niet - lol)
Steem: https://steemkr.com/steemquestions/@stino-san/steem-whitepaper-dutch-part-4-steem-steem Steem Power: https://steemkr.com/steemquestions/@stino-san/steem-whitepaper-dutch-part-5-steem-power-sp SBD: https://steemkr.com/steemquestions/@stino-san/steem-whitepaper-dutch-part-6-steem-dollars-smd
Enneuh... no worries, steemkr is een veilige site :0)
Bedankt!
Interesting, I haven't seen this yet! 😮 Thanks for the heads up so I'm not lost if it happens!
No problem, I live to serve :P
Today I read posts of other users who are supporters of binding SBD in the US dollar. Some say it will happen soon. But I still hope that's not going to happen. Nevertheless, you have clearly outlined what is happening.
Yeap, now its time to wait and see what happens.
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Excited on how this will go.. ^^ Aja!
It's going up again, trend is reversing.
Oooh, nice. That's great then. ^^