Now you are lying. Neither Lyford or you have not given me any evidence or links to evidence. I've been reading texts that Lyford has written and watched his videos, but so far I haven't seen anything that proves that DeMartino has somehow lied.

Maybe I haven't seen something important, but that's only because neither of you haven't actually given me any links. You have just told me several times that the evidence exists somewhere in the internet and I have to just look for it more.