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RE: [solved] AM I A VICTIM OF VOTE STEALING? - perhaps your account has been also abused and you don't even know it ...

in #steemit5 years ago (edited)

Just to clarify again what happened here:

@crypto.piotr signed up to steemvoter.com as a free user, which gives @buildteam the authority to use one of his votes a day as compensation for the service. Since @dlease is a @buildteam project, its posts get voted, as disclosed in the footer:

Signing up to dlease itself does not give us the authority to use anyones vote and that is not what we are doing. Technically inclined people can even check which key signed these votes :)

If @crypto.piotr wants to stop these upvotes from happening, he can go to steemvoter.com and disable his account or upgrade it to a premium account. Again, this has nothing to do with dlease itself and deauthorizing dlease will not stop steemvoter upvotes.

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Dear @reggaemuffin

I'm again grateful for your explanation and I already managed to remove my account from SteemVoter.

Personally I would appreciate more transparency coming from people creating tools like SteemVoter. Those informations should be clearly visible (instead of small print) during registration.

Currently it does look like hidden cost and I'm pretty sure that I'm not the only one surprissed and my trust towards this team is most likely forever broken.

Again I very much appreciate your help and explanation.

Yours
Piotr

It is true that the old steemvoter.com is not the easiest interface and does not highlight the freemium votes well enough for everyone to understand it. We are working on beta.steemvoter.com as a new interface which will spell these things out clearly and gives users more control. But we did not want to deactivate the old version completely, as many users still use it and are happy with the service it provides.

We worked on the FAQ to state this as clearly as possible and every post that steemvoter.com votes will appear on has the footer that I showed to give you a way to check if this was a legitimate vote. We have disabled registration to the old steemvoter.com for quite some time, as it was not feasible for us to revamp the signup process to be more clear when we have the new beta version.

The service you were using (steemvoter.com) is now over 2 years old and we learned many things from our users feedback since then. It is a deprecated service and the upvotes keep it running for all the users (like you) who were using it. You are always free to disable your account there or move to the new beta version.

I am sorry that this broke your trust in BuildTeam, so I am here to show you what happened, how you can fix this and why this has nothing to do with using dlease :)

If you have any other questions or feedback, you can always talk to us, we listen to all our users!

Dear @reggaemuffin

You've earned my full respect for all time that you invested into your explanations.

If you have any other questions or feedback, you can always talk to us, we listen to all our users!

Honestly I was worried that my post will upset someone from your team and I will feel your anger (flags). I'm glad that instead of downvotes, I received professional feedback.

THANK YOU
Piotr

This was a thing that happened to some users, so we took steps to mitigate it. We are glad that the users are vigilant about unauthorized use of their accounts and try to be as accountable as possible.

No one will be perfect, but we will improve with every feedback we get :) And pinging our staff will get you a quick response to any problem you might have with our services.

Flags on concerned users are not our style ;)

Very professional answer! By the way I love beta.steemvoter ;-)

Seriously respect @reggaemuffin

I think the problem, as @reggaemuffin pointed out, is one of transparency. I remember signing up for Utopian and Dtube and both of those took my votes and I only noticed the small print afterwards.

Anyway like you say, good to see these services thriving and good people like @reggaemuffin running them :-)

Cg

Utopian and Dtube 'took' your votes? Neither of those are a voting service, and utopian doesn't even have a log in, just a method to use tags.

Are you sure you have this right? If so, could you explain a bit more so I can understand and avoid whatever happened to you?

both of those took my votes and I only noticed the small print afterwards.

Yeah, you nailed it.

I did not know steemvoter before this topic, but your answers @raggamuffin makes me interested

So you are lease and steemvoter too? So in short you use steemvoter its payment for using it) to upvote your own lease?

Try steemrewarding.com as a completely free alternative to steemvoter, it's designed by holger80 and offers many more customization options.

Dear @reggaemuffin

I added small update to my post.

One more time I would like to thank you for taking the time to reply in very mature and polite manners. You've earned my respect.

Yours,
Piotr