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RE: My Announcement March 15 2017

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Any comments on @dan 's latest post?
https://steemit.com/steem/@dantheman/making-steem-really-open-source

The one that he deleted for some reason.

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I asked him to. Why? Because I thought it didn't reflect reality very well and was a bad post for everyone because of that.

LOL. Did you heard about Barbra Streisand effect? Moreover, this is blockchain bro - what was written into blockchain, stays on the blockchain forever :) Now everyone will read it, because it is like forbidden fruit - but personally I think it will be good for community to understand how important it is to have solid foundation - proper licence which empowers progress and innovation.

I helped write a bunch of this code, you think I don't know the data is still there? But the retraction by the author has meaning.
It's inevitable that the license will get tweaked with time, but a change to an MIT license now is not going to help Steem holders.

@blocktrades I'm replying over here due to comment depth limits and I'm replying to this...

I'm thinking about accepting checks, that would eliminate fees from credit cards and from fiat->btc fees. But we would need to add in enough lead time to make sure the check can't be cancelled (well, we could make exceptions for small amounts and good customers). But we need to add some more code on the backend to support it as well.

I'm speaking from experience here. That is a colossally bad idea.
You'd be much better going with http://www.authorize.net/solutions/merchantsolutions/merchantservices/echeck/

That way it's instant clearing and greatly reduced risks of chargebacks. Also I wouldn't even accept that unless you have the appropriate AML/KYC measures in place. Jumio is good for this.
Namaste!

I know that you know, and I believe, that you know that I know that you know :)

For me it is just funny how anyone can say that post was deleted (what is misleading for newbies) where in fact new version was published.

Yes, fair enough, deleted isn't the correct word, it's just stuck in my brain because that's what was put there in it's place.

Are you all gonna take prepaid cards any time soon?
I've even given up id and still can't buy btc or steem.

I'm thinking about accepting checks, that would eliminate fees from credit cards and from fiat->btc fees. But we would need to add in enough lead time to make sure the check can't be cancelled (well, we could make exceptions for small amounts and good customers). But we need to add some more code on the backend to support it as well.

Oddly enough I support you in that decision, the crapitalust interest lies in the scarcity model, if more steemits were out there toooooo many folks would jump ship.

I also support @dan in his need to be Dan the Man!!

Yes, forks right now would cause a real mess, and there's plenty of opportunists who would try it I think. I was lucky enough to be standing on the sidelines of the ETH/ETC fiasco...

How would I run a check without a brick and mortar check?
Will they run from my card?

Too bad there isn't some local btc here, I'd sure face to face some btc to an address of your's.

Fuck the Steem holders. This is a blogging platform, not an investment fund.

Clearly @dan has some regret posting it...If he felt strongly the information needed to be out there he would have left it out there.

Or maybe I understand Streisand effect.

Dan, I applaud your choice to stand up for your values in the most direct of ways. I'm also saddened as a stakeholder of this project and concerned about those that are working full time for it (the team you've left behind).

I think that the existing license is a protection for Steem holders against the big fish in the social media industry. I think it is a pragmatic protection that could be lifted after a network effect is achieved. I'm guessing that isn't the only reason for your leaving and look forward to gazing upon your future works.

+5%

The thick plottens! Hahah.

Edit: Or, he was asked to.

What a turn of event.

He's right. My last post was a streisand effect.

What part of the post was wrong? Wouldn't it be more useful to post your counter arguments and have a productive discussion? Hmm, if only we had some sort of censorship free forum where we could talk about these things....

I plan to submit a revised pull request tonight to include text that allows what @sneak said is allowed. (No guarantee it will be approved though. We'll see.)

It's not only censureship free, it's also resistant to edits, as has been proven by resurrection of a post that the author changed his mind about posting... It's not about counter-arguments in this case, it's I didn't feel it was an accurate portrayal of history. I think Dan agreed, so he deleted it.

my question got answered here.

where you refering to the deleting part? like asked dan to delete it?

Off the topic @surpassinggoogle Thanks for filling up my wallet with your generous gift of 1000 STEEM . Thank YOU !

yes, I asked him to delete it/retract it/whatever (see my comments above for more details)

I find this an extraordinary stance @blocktrades contrary to everything that most anyone with any presence of mind here, as far as I can tell, believes in - but I will speak for myself - why would any one (authority) ask any other conscientious person to censor themselves? I do not know the nature of the relationships of key players on this platform, and nor should I necessarily care, but censorship and prevailing upon others points of view do not seem worthy of the ecosystem I am subscribing to. I can only interpret that Cap'n @Dan himself acquiesced and so is complicit - but this feels rotten at the core and those of us interested in building transparent, ownership free community, striving for integrity, are left scratching our heads ...?