I flagged someone for the first time yesterday, a person who commented on my post saying literally just 3 words and giving themselves $5 while not giving my post any upvote at all, which I would be cool with if they didn't vote for themselves.
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That feels like a quick reaction and flag abuse, but as this post is making out, the only "Abuse" of the flag system is, well non really, people can just keep tagging back and forth really as they please, but I am curious what message that left others who may not follow that person you flagged, may have had a comment for your post, but just because you didn't upvote your post they should not possibly fear getting flagged if they only have commentary? I understand we all desire to get paid from Steemit, but is that the only reason for being here? I still use Reddit, Instagram, hell even tumblr, and get free comments all day long on those places and never have a chance of getting paid directly from those sources, I thought what made Steemit different is at least we have that opportunity, should we fear getting flagged for having a thought and that is it?
I know I am taking your situation to the extreme, no doubt the person is abusing the system, I am giving the hypothetical for your viewers who are not following abusers or even care about them but just like your blog.
@cryplectibles
It wasn't a quick reaction as I flagged their comment hours later, it was a decision I thought about.
I mentioned that I'm cool with people posting comments all day long without upvoting my posts, as long as they don't pay themselves decent amounts of money for writing a couple words, some new people I follow create beautiful content and they don't even get a couple bucks for their posts while someone types "they look good" and makes $5. I disagree with that.
Every one has a brain and can make up their own mind, if anyone wants to join sides with the abuser - please do. Everyone can reward whatever they feel deserves it and I have the option to disagree with that.
This particular individual was making tons and tons of posts all across the platform, all one to two word comments, all 100% upvoted, and hadn't upvoted anyone else's content. This was discovered prior to flagging him. I don't think that it's flag abuse at all, I think that it was the ideal way to use the mechanism.
We essentially reallocated inappropriate allocation of funds back to the rewards pool for more people to enjoy.
The point I am making is regarding the bigger message of a person who do not follow @kotturinn or the person that was flagged, but just see a valid comment got flagged, I am giving the alternative view that non-Steemit users matter too lol, ALL LIVES MATTER! ;p
I'm not smashing comments out of existence, I'm simply saying to myself "Ahh, I don't think "lol," deserves $5, I think it deserves $0.00 or $0.01." My qualm is disproportionately self-rewarding zero effort posting. If it's quality and has substance, sure, give 'er a little reward! haha
I get your qualm, which by the way, as a longer time Steemit user, my personal qualm too. Taking ourselves out of this situation and placing instead a newbie on Steemit, and a person who has not joined Steemit yet.
I am saying the value of getting a new users on Steemit is higher of that than possibly taking away $5 from someone I cannot 100% say for certain is abusing the system. I will take the bad users of Steem with their temporary ways they try and make money here, which I know will not last long, rather than chance I would lose a new user on Steemit who might be a great contributer but would see a post they liked, a comment they thought was okay, and see that comment flagged. Without being on Steemit themselves, it's not like they can ask what occurred or why this person was flagged. If people really are making money on poop comments, it isn't long term or sustainable, and if it is, we would all be able to see these accounts from the beginning, of high value, and this Steemit experiment would not even have lasted this long. I have no numbers to back up some of these statements, I do love this discussion though, seriously. I feel I agree with you but I just feel I am thinking in a longer term way is all which would make me act differently in the $5 wasteful comment example.
As a side, maybe when flagging a persons comment, everyone should get in the habit of making sure to post why the flag is being used. Not even for the person, but more so for other viewers.
@cryplectibles
There was an explanation why the commentor got flagged included.
When I flag, I always reply as to why. That's something that I fully encourage doing, otherwise, you're just being passive and not setting a good example of using the feature. It opens up a dialogue to ask "why?" And if the flagger is wrong, if they don't suck, can remove it. Or someone else can step in and counteract the flag with a proportionate upvote.
I think people are scared of chaos. Personally, I'm not. I think it's crucial for this platform to have a healthy future.