I know this is not going to go well with some. But I am getting sick and tired of meaningless comments. I actually prefer bot comments to the recent wave of crappy unrelated comments/spam.
great post
nice post
keep it up
....
Please do not comment with something unrelated to the topic. I am very tolerant and support people posting about anything they want. But do it on your own topic, do not spam your silly meaningless comments in other people's topics. It will not do you any good.
Encouraging conversation is one thing, but before you make a comment, please think, is it a conversation starter? a comment related to the topic? or just something generic you can say on any topic? if it's the last, please think twice about doing it.
People are just posting comments on steemit for the sake of getting upvotes. Now, I am also experiencing more user than bots who're posting random comment on my post. The comment which has nothing to do with my post are just unbearable. Minnows are really struggling nowadays on steemit to get some upvotes and earn some money. i don't know when this madness will end.
We've promised the minnows Haagen_Dasz but now they should be happy with a dessert of Walls or popsciles.
Diana Krall at Neil Armstrong's funeral.
Why would he need a microphone when he's in a spacesuit...
Because sound travels so well in space...
NASA - Never A Straight Answer ! Founded by the Nazi's
I sometimes go for walks ...
great post
Nice comment
lol omg xD
Keep it up buddy!
Follow me and will follow back LOL
It will be very difficult to reduce the meaningless comments as everyone is incentivized to comment as much as possible with the hopes of earning steem.
quality comments reward better ;)
Nevertheless, nice post, dude xD
Thanks @vladimirk800i .
Darn straight, we minnows are getting KILLED out there. The only option is to pay real $$$ for steems, which is now fine due to price drop, lolz. But I think we can all agree that the main post graphic is backwards and the blahs are normally coming for the chick - HA !!!ducks!!!
Yep . totally agreed mate. We minnow are just getting squeezed here like a fish. For a post, a lot of hard work is needed alongwith proper marketing, otherwise you know what would we get on our posts.
How do I know if I am a minnow that is getting squeezed or not? I am still trying to figure out what all this stuff means. :)
take for instance my mom joke thread here: https://steemit.com/comedy/@i-am-zol/urmom-joke-thread
It fell off the front page in THREE SECONDS. Never to be seen again unless I pay actual money. This system is a little skewed.
Yeah, That also happened to me many times over. My posts generally remains on 'new' page for a minute and then it vanishes. I had to go for marketing my stuff after getting tired.
Isn't the marketing more about building your network (and/or community, however you choose to see it)? I was aghast when I joined and saw the new posts page - how on earth was I going to wade through that to find any posts of value to me? But then I took more of the same approach I would take to going in a pub - I said hello to someone I knew, had a look at who was joining in the conversation in his posts, followed a couple of them and where I had something to say, joining the conversation on their posts. Only been here three days, so I don't know how it's going to pan out, but I would guess some will become a core part of the network, some more peripheral and some (probably the vast majority) will come and go. I think the received wisdom is a ratio of 1:9:99.
Funny, cause your Mom said something similar to me actually ;)
HAR! I was on a trip or would have responded sooner.
Successful sites focus on traffic and engagement and do not have people who criticize what everyone else is doing.
I think what we are experiencing is people learning how to use the system, and a lack of functionality to filter out a bit of the Spam. I think it will work out.
Personally, I would rather see engagement, and this meme is in fun. :)
damn right! I will take it one step further .. I think a retraction/apology is in order ! ;-)
@whatsup if Steemit is the social media "society" of the future, then spam filters are the keepers of the peace. It isn't meant to punish with an iron fist, it just tries to preserve an ecosystem where the majority of users can enjoy.
When building a model airplane, some people prefer a kit with all of the pieces, and others want a block of wood and a knife. Creating rules of engagement that accommodate both is critical.
Typically half the content on a site isn't instruction manuals, etiquette guides, cheerleading, brand building, complaining, etc., about said site. Twitter would be a different place if telling people how Twitter works or complaining about not being retweeted or how people who misspell words was a way to turn a quick buck from new users. But this is still beta, kinks are bound to happen, and not all of them will be labeled NSFW
@joseph I agree and disagree.
I agree that the two word "nice post" comments are lame. The one exception is @ionlysaymeep.
I disagree becase if you look at my comment history, my comments cover a lot of different topics. Some are longer, some are shorter (depending on the quality of the OP). One might think that I only comment for the reward, but that is not the case. I like Steemit for one reason: diversity. Where else can you such a broad range of topics in a compressed form? (Please don't say BuzzFeed....) It gets me to think outside of my perspective.
At the end of the day, a post with little effort/substance should get little reward, and so should the comments. Considerate curation helps, but there need to be some systemic changes that disincentivize spammy minnow/plankton behavior.
Totally agree with you! I am the same way, so to say that on one post I comment "keep it up" doesn't mean that I'm just doing it for the upvotes or to get followers because I commented, I just truly mean it even if it's short. I'm not going to write a super long comment on everything I like, although a lot of the times I do lol, because I just wouldn't have the time. What I don't like is when people simply ask if I could follow and they don't even comment anything about what I posted on. :/
I agree and disagree as well. There are a lot of posts that I don't really understand but that someone put in a lot of time and effort to make and if I manage to get through the whole post and still don't understand but know that once I get more knowledgeable on the subject (like cryptocurrency) things will make more sense to me... for those types of posts I generally comment something like "great post, wish I understood it more" or "nice post, someday I hope to make more sense of it" and I don't see anything wrong with those comments but I also don't expect to be up voted at all.
Now don't get me wrong, those of us that type a "nice post" or "great post" type comment shouldn't be expecting an up vote for those comments but we should be able to say those comments without feeling like we are doing something wrong.
When you don't really understand the post, either because its on something you don't quite get (again like cryptocurrency for myself) or perhaps its in a language you don't understand but the pictures within it kind of give you an idea of what the post is about, then really the only comment you can make, if you even make one at all, should be "nice post" or "good post" because you can't really say anything else if you didn't really understand it.
Of course that is just my opinion. :D
I agree with you. Thanks for putting into perspective for this guy. Now I can't say nice comment cuz people on Steem get pissed off. They need to chill with all the taboo rules of steemit that is not written anywhere on the welcome page. It will turn off a lot of new users n this will just become a blog forum backed by blockchain. I would hate for Steem to be squeezed into this category, because of nitpicky users.
"Taboo rules of Steemit" couldn't be any more accurate! If there are no terms of service that specifically prohibit these actions, there can be no blame. Sure people can look down their noses, but this is the interwebs, where far worse happens in every corner.
My original comment is this: I agree and disagree with OP. I
I agree with you. And if you just say ,, nice post'' or ,,good job'', a person at least know that you're visit his or her post. It's like in real life when somebody in the store or on parking lot say to you : nice day and you reply : yes indeed. You feel good about this and also on steemit if somebody leave a comment on my post like this I'm glad. Sometimes two words are better than 100 upvotes from curation trail. At least in my opinion.
If it is brief but topical, I am all about that. If it is "hi, visit my page", I have no love for that. Engagement is always better than mindless curation IMO.
Exactly. :D
Meep.
Lol. Just be consistent, you'll be alright!
So the nice post comments and follow me comments are spammy behavior? That's good to know. I get enough spam in my email. Now I like to take pics and post pics and sometimes I don't say much about the photos, but I do post some helpful writing tips for aspiring authors. I was hoping that would benefit people who are thinking about writing and just need a little encouragement or advice to help them work harder and produce better content.
Rightly put, these short comments mostly have positivity in them, like appreciation, acknowledgement, gratitude, etc so it shouldn't be viewed as steemit real estate being wrongly occupied
That's because our newest witness is telling people to comment spam and upvote themselves to make millions on Steemit !!!
Along with the social media miners.
Yes , their goes the idea of the best witnesses get the most votes , famous witnesses will get more.
Yes yes , I hope Jerry pumps Steem very well , cause I don't believe this is a fundamental good coin , so I can get rid of my Steem on a good price. We can only hope many wealthy people come on board and Power Up. Saying this in the moral of this post.
lol at your comment, good luck
lol hate is real. @jerrybanfield brought so many users to the platform. He is doing a great job researching and educating others. I would advise to learn from him instead of bashing.
I agree. You can love his way of teaching and preaching or hate it, but I truly believe that @jerrybanfield is in it to help Steemit grow. It's partially because of him, directly or indirectly, that Steemit has a great deal of new users.
Shamefully true.
but this guys is helping the community and he is doing his best to help people to earn on steemit, I earned a lot from him, he is not saying on the video that people have to spam, he is talking about upvoting your own post !
He said upvoting own comments, not post and he said it about 6 times in a row. Anyway he was new so steem and it's true he's going an amazing job at bringing people in.
Using the reward as a mean to attract people is bad overall.
Yes, @transisto
It keeps the monetisation of social right up on the top of mind.
In the end though Steemit wont grow without proper incentive.
the idea of steemit is to reward !
Exactly! What if everybody just did that? I mean everybody.
I think its still a little shady! I mean come on, paying for witness votes and telling people to upvote all they write, I get an ugly feeling that if everybody did it this
You mean like randowhale?
we need more generous people like him, instead of stingy hoarders. Fist show you can do better, before you criticize others' generousity. Respectfully disagree ;)
hi sir i need ur help for ranking me. ur 1 vote give me a chance to upgrade rank
LOL FUCK OFF
LOl! Is this one of those bot?
Is there a lol!fuckoff bot? Now that's a good idea. Who knows how to make bots?
Well, he's not a top 50 witness yet so just a backup at best =/
hi sir i need ur help for ranking me. ur 1 vote give me a chance to upgrade rank
If you can convince me this was satire, you'll get it!
Indeed.
Edit: wait I should add a few more characters here to avoid the bot 😁
I almost spit out all of my breakfast, and you totally made my fucking day with this comment mate!
Ugh wtf this guy's face is everywhere and everything that comes out of it triggers me. Mute
Hahaha! This dufus is hurting BAD right now. The trend lines show cryptocurrencies going back to April 2017 prices. Some millionaire essentially pump and dumped all crypto in June. I'll buy steem when it's back to being $0.10
fuck off comments nazi!
.. lol .. how do you like that?
p.s.
This post is little more than a shitty comment posing as a post .. but wow... it still earned $ 200 + ?? ...
pffft .. the crypto-universe is on fire, we're sliding under $1.00 and you have your panties in a know about fkn comments !!??
Yup, that's why I wrote my How To Lose Friends post, it really is getting out of hand.
Cg
its only going to get worse, thousands of new people are joining each day, with intro posts talking about how they need money, or they comment under posts with the same lines, over and over again, its maddening
You'll love this guy:
https://steemit.com/@raviraj4you/comments
WTF!!! HAHAHHAHAHAHA
You are right, a lot of people are spaming like crazy and thinking that they will suceed on steemit like that, I hate that and I especially understand that because I converted two my big facebook group into steemit groups, this why I have very strict rules to post there, I feel sorry that is no block button on steemit, I usually mute such people !
You can mute - but you have to follow them first! then you will see the mute button.
that's not true, I am not following you but I see the mute button, but I will not mute you ☺
Good news for you @clixmoney. Click on their name and hit the mute button. I hope that made your day.
it will not made my day, it will just save my time and I will not lose it with reading empty comments !
Fair enough. I just feel differently.
How did you convert facebook groups into steemit groups? I have some with over 600 members and my own page I have 4500 friends. I thought it would be cool if I could connect them somehow. This site has more meaningful content than Facebook and I think it could grow pretty large if people use it for the right reasons.
contact me here and we can talk about that : https://www.facebook.com/snouci
I agree not to comment without any sense but it's easy for you coz you have a lot of steem power and can do as you like. The rest of us who do not have the power we can only comment on and hope someone will upvoat our coment for a few cents. Pretty much as I now hope that somebody will upvoat this comment. steem on bitches :)
There you go, my friend.
Well if that's your reply to the OP then I guess you didn't get it, being a minnow with low steem power isn't an excuse for commenting on a post with the words of great post or thanks or follow me back or upvote my comment or things like that :)
Keep on steeming bitchachos :)
How do you know that these crappy comments are not from bots?
I made an experiment with one of my other accounts.
I posted in LATIN (and other rare languages).
a few minutes later i had comments like "good post" and "nice"
you do not, I meant the earlier bots comments with useful links, sorry I assumed people knew about the early days of bot comments.
RIP wang bot.
lol you still remember
Wang is missed for sure! :D
Yea what happened to wang? I was asking about wang couple weeks ago didn't get an answer.
Priceless. I think I may try that. Though the question is, should I flag those types of responses or will that end up backfiring. Hmmm.
Ut Lorem ac enim win!!
Now that is funny. I did get some people who tried to comment in a meaningful way to some things I posted and their English was pretty bad so I figured they were real and just trying their best to say something that is not in their primary language. I love the fact that there are people from all around the world here. I read tons of interesting things every day. In short, I really like this site.
Yes, for the people like me, whose native language isn't english this place has one extra benefit - we can improve significantly communication skills with english speaking audience. Probably sometimes this can annoy "aborigens" but difference in culture backrgound can realy help both sides " to think out of box "
I like be the international feel to this site.
Please don't hate my comment, because I need to disagree with you.
First of all you started a lame topic that has been brought up ton of time. Because you are a dolphin or whale and have dolphin whale friends, this post earning decent.
It is not fair to bash on minnows who leave lame comments and even advocating flags for something that can easily be ignored.
You were new at one time yourself.
As many more new users will be joining the community for years to come, these kinds of generic comment will be part of all topics.
Part of the issue is desperation for attention, so they just spam those lines whenever possible, just to be part of potential reward, not realizing it is actually hurting them.
Eventually everybody learns that it has not benefit for them and they stop.
So, don't hate show some love. We need to educate new users instead of bashing and flagging.
Steemit won't be here for "years to come" if the setup here doesn't allow minnows to see any success. The little fish will leave from discouragement and the big fish will cash out. This ought to not be. It would be a shame.
Well said, @amarie
I sort of agree. At the same time little fish need to put in some hard work, instead of seeking easy money. Only thing killing steem I see, at this time, is emergence of a competitor with something better to offer.
Agreed. Little fish need to put in some hard work. I'm one of those little fish that put in the hard work. I don't agree that only a competitor could kill Steemit (not Steem), as the platform is dependent on users, right?
Steem is the platform. Steemit is a website. You can use Steem platform via busy.org, chainBB, or eSteem app. That's why I just call it Steem.
True, platform depends on users. But look around online, plenty of people using other social media platforms for 0 rewards. As people get introduced to steem, joining is no brainer.
True. Other social sites people use for free, but people are not likely to do that here because the precedent has already been set to expect to be paid. And the problem comes in when people see others making so much money and then look at their wallets and see the wealth and then they get angry and discouraged when they're contributing just as much or more but aren't making anything much.
It is my guess that people join Steemit the website for the possibility of getting Steem first and an outlet for their blogging/socializing second.
But, I do believe it's all going to work out. My prediction is that future hardforks will fix some things. I think they are just wanting to get as many people on the site as possible right now, which is a good thing.
I am totally dumb about how this thing works, but I am slowly figuring stuff out.
I haven't been around that long but I noticed that some of these are due to language barriers. Kinda feels like buddy wants to say more but doesn't know what to say.
Glad you said that, because I wanted to. Better to get a 'nice post' comment, than a paragraph in characters you can't read.
I admire those guys for trying. I couldn't comment in another language except maybe a bit of Spanish or French.
I'm not a bot... just a mannequin...and I will try to comment as good as I can ;-)
LOL!!!
I comment, therefore I am.
Nice Post.
On a slightly more serious (and hopefully helpful note) ..perhaps a change can be introduced so that comments have to exceed a certain character length before they're accepted together with a cross check against dictionary words to ensure a better than 50% chance that the comment will have some kind of coherence?
Well putting a minimum on the number of words is dull tbh
What if I wanted to comment on somebody's post with only four words? Like fuck or love :)
I understand your point conpletely. I am a minnow who has been bringing in new people to the community and all i tell them is learn how this platform works. All they seem ti care about is the reward so they start given silly comments just as you have posted . The problem to me is that they do not make any effort to read and understand the content of a post before adding their thoughts to it. Please do not get mad at people who do that by downvoting them but ignore them . i believe the ones who really want to stay will seek out the right way and do that later on instead.
I feel the same way as you so about this, just keep in mind that there has been a surge in new users recently, many of whom are still learning the unwritten and unspoken guidelines this community follows. This requires a delicate touch to deal with properly, because outright telling people they're doing something wrong when they're still learning will make you appear elitist. A lot of people are probably coming from reddit, which is similar to Steemit at first glance, but very different after a closer look. We need to educate people and help them grow, if we're not careful we'll only succeed in driving them away.
Alright, well said, only someone does what they should do to help beginners.
Much big voices vote for their clan and they are on their clan.
Class divorce should be on a lame threshold here at steemit.
For those who invested 1 year ago we should use power on the small fish in the balls.
Everyone can not write great top articles, but everyone deserves a vote on the comments. Vote for both. They are future bloggers, many of them want Steemit to move forward. I help them and additionally re-steem are the better posts and work.
Many would give up here when they just disappeared in the mega and got a voice once.
NOW they are time and printer gets a little pay.
Divide your voice into the middle portions and share the readers.
Then we help more to be self-employed and they will then help new ones
meep
Well said. And this is not just a "good post" comment or "good answer" but it really is good advice, so I had to say something.
Thank you. I work to ensure continued growth in the value of my shares, as any responsible shareholder should.
I think you would be shocked if I showed you the data I am analysing.
Many - not all - newbies have their mantra prepared: post-junk self-upvote-junk spam-comments self-upvote-spam-comments repeat! Every cent reinvested in SP and this is the future.
Why is self-upvoting even allowed, and more importantly, why does it result in a payout?
By posting about meaningless comments, then encouraging people to only post comments that are relevant to the content of the OP, I can only say "Nice post" and "keep it up." Way to contradict yourself on a meaningless topic. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
I don't think you'll get away from this, in the same way that I've seen one line posts from the whales upvoted to $50-100!
You could make it clear in your post that you do t want congratulations, rather meaningful debate. I don't think it will make much difference though as many commenters
great post
If somebody is appreciating your post, why do you consider it as a crap? Sometimes a few good words can convey the thought than a meaningless paragraph.
My thoughts exactly @hms818. No...I didn't write this to get upvoted and I'm not a bot. Was just going to write "great post" to your comment and run. LOL
Me also.
I do love it when people say "beautiful" when I post my pictures. Makes me smile every time.
I guess he had a bad day. lol.
Great Post
Love it bro
Upvote 4 Upvote?
Follow 4 Follow?
Good content. love it.
Ive seen so many posts like this it drives me insane, and when i think theyre all done, i see about 15 more, every. single. day.
ha its a good problem to have, i would be more than happy to have all your unwanted comments.
Yes, not wanting spam comments comes from the privilege of actually getting ahead on SteemIt.
I don't mind spam comments, but I can see that if you are popular on SteemIt then you could possibly be sifting through hundreds of such comments every day.
Many new uninformed users are coming into steemit to make an easy buck. They don't understand and know nothing about etiquette and general no spam rules. In time seeing they have no results with this they will abandon the community
But, the minute you put it out on the blockchain, on social media, on the internet, its not your topic @joseph
As your reputation moves higher, expect more of the same especially when the price of Steem nose-dives further. At some point, the vote trolls will cut their losses & leave the platform.
An approach, which has pushed the elasticity of my patience bubble, has been to individually respond to each comment:
Do I like being a school marm or a big dad?
Definitely not.
But since Steemit Inc believes in a Pontius Pilate approach to any problem, I'll do what little I can.
Hello spammers my old friends...I've left Facebook for the hopes that this will end....but the web is full of these butt holes
(I should've recorded that in audio with the sound of silence rhythm )
Back to topic yes I'm a minnow myself and I hate seeing that if there's no value addition then fuck off or these silly comments of great post upvote and follow me like why on Earth would you post on my post asking me and others to upvote and follow you, for your extraordinary spamming skills? lol
Congratulations! This post has been upvoted from the communal account, @minnowsupport, by gingyptian from the Minnow Support Project. It's a witness project run by aggroed, ausbitbank, teamsteem, theprophet0, and someguy123. The goal is to help Steemit grow by supporting Minnows and creating a social network. Please find us in the Peace, Abundance, and Liberty Network (PALnet) Discord Channel. It's a completely public and open space to all members of the Steemit community who voluntarily choose to be there.
If you like what we're doing please upvote this comment so we can continue to build the community account that's supporting all members.
I have to admit I'm a bit surprised you haven't gotten any legit bot comments saying exactly those things. This has been a common gripe of the community since the price spike a couple months or so ago, myself included. I've come to think of those comments like training wheels. While some may do it longer than others, I've noticed that on a long enough timeline you usually don't see the same people doing it. It's always a wave of new names, and either they eventually learn and start engaging more genuinely, or they disappear after giving up all together and claim the system is "rigged".
@winstonwolfe, having been in this type of gig for almost 20 years... part of what we see here requires us to become brutally honest about (a) users of the site and (b) the overall objective of Steemit.
Based on past experience (and a huge pit of "failed" content sites!) these kinds of comments come-- broadly speaking-- from two two kinds of users:
People who authentically "want to be part of a social content site that rewards." They are the first ones you describe. They learn, they adapt and become lasting community members.
The PROBLEM comes from people who join "because it's a system to get free cash" Elsewhere-- Squidoo, Bubblews... other sites going back to 1999... we called them "clicking for cash cockroaches." Might sound harsh... but they are mostly "transfers" from venues like Amazon's "mechanical turk" and other "clicking for cash" sites where they earn ONE CENT for clicking on ten ads and so forth.
Why a "problem?" Because their number is LEGION. Not "thousands." "Millions." Problem, not because of what they do, but because they are numerous enough to drown out ALL OTHER CONTENT if left unchecked. Problem, because after a while, legitimate contributors look at the spam soup and think "Yanno, this place kinda sucks!" and leave... while the "roaches" stay behind and keep mining their 1/10c per comment "until the well runs dry.
Some "freedomists" argue that "it won't happen on Steemit because we're on the blockchain!" Nice ideology, but WRONG. Being "on the blockchain" exempts us from all sorts of things.. but not from human nature. Sure, the blockchain will live on... but we'll also be sitting with 2-cent Steem, because INVESTORS will look at this and see Steem represented by a garbage pit... and that'll make it "just another shitcoin" in short order...
Sorry about the mini-rant....
Gonna come out and say your mini rant hit the nail on the head better than @joesph's article. I read a shit ton on this site, after an article I'll read through most of, if not all of the comments, based on interest and debate. Then I will make a comment based on what I have read. After that I will generally hit edit and add, 'Great post' to clarify that I read the initial post. By the time you get through everything, you've really burned a lot of time. Garbage like people upvoting there own comments should be remedied in Hardfork 20, and people like this shahzaib should be jettisoned from earnings faster than an enema takes to kick in.
Great post @joesph 😄
Good rant! I have proposed solutions - encoded solutions - but it will take a wave of vote-shuffling the witnesses to get them to agree to some significant changes.
hi sir i need ur help for ranking me. ur 1 vote give me a chance to upgrade rank..plz give me only a vote
lol
the problem is you need to find a solution with most of free opinion and soft censorship. the best thing people can do is to ignore such spam comments by muting these people. flagging should be still reserved for illegal and inappropriate material.
I think in future there will be more option for every post creator where you will set rules for your "room/blog"
Haha , wish that I could wright a blogpost with so many votes for saying what bothers you. So I think really : Keep up the good work , great and nice post.
No really actually I'm a bit of a bad caracter, usually I vote for stupid comments : they make me laugh very hard ! lol
And I like this one also cause it's straight from the hart, very real.
So Joseph , keep up the good work ! :-)
f4f? ;)
Ummm what does f4f? mean? Is it some sort of abbreviation like LOL for laugh out loud?
follow for follow
no ! forking for forking
lol
like that! :)
Cool, thanks. I hadn't seen that written like that before. :D
hi sir i need ur help for upvote me for ranking me....give me a vote
Any comment is better than no comment. At least for minnows, it helps boost morale because it gives the sense that someone have taken an interest in your post. But for the more established steemian, yes it can be frustrating to see such comments but it js part of the ecosystem. Commenting is part of curation and just a small comment will allow the commenter a small share of the reward.
I agree with you @joseph . People tend to copy and past such comments which is very bad. Most worringly, is the comment F4F ie follow for follow. Thanks and I hope this gets to many people.
Solution here. (Past payout).
@joseph I may be naive but I'm still giving people the benefit of the doubt. I think for the most part, these people are just clueless.
At first glance, it's obvious that there has been a huge influx of people here who's primary language is not English. That brings a cultural as well as the obvious language difference.
It has taken me a while to realize that sometimes a silent upvote is better than a vocally expressed, but meaningless, "good post, I agree".
And while I sometimes get frustrated, I will often reply to spammy comments with a link to a post explaining solid methods for creating a better community here on Steemit. Once in a while, it actually breaks through and I get a thoughtful response.
Oh what I wouldn't do for a spam comment on my post when I have 0 comments except upvote bots.
I would much prefer real comments and start real conversations though.
If I had more engagement in my posts I would hate both spam and robots filling up my comment feed. It looks nasty and adds nothing to the post whatsoever.
I'm sure it is a little off putting to potential real comments when they scroll down just to see 'great post, follow me bro' 'great post check mine.'
Those types of comments don't really open up for conversations. They don't really invite other to interact.
I read this post 5 days ago
and still resteemed it today
i totally agree with you on writing comments that are appropriate and relevant to the post and not just writing it for the sake of writing it
i went scrolling down this post and saw no comment of yours
no reply on the comments
or maybe I missed it
comments should at least be like - "comment like you mean it" not just commenting for the sake of getting attention
some folks could sense fakeness too
Good one. I always tried to answer people who commented my posts at first, because its common decency. But after a while i realised alot of the comments were just spam. Now I always answer real comments AND upvote them - while ignoring the spammers/beggars. We have to encourage the behaviour we want to see!
Absolutely - I also tend to upvote good comments.
Am surprised the good people on this whole thread do not upvote each other more. Sometimes, we may write on very different topics so it is good to see new usernames on a theme that unites us.
great post
nice post
keep it up
Or otherwise described:
If somebody comments this post with "good post" or "nice" i wonder how would it be considered? As bot comment or perhaps a troll comment? Or maybe comment from non-english speaking user that finds trending post and just comments with a few words that he understands and writes? XD
Yes, many are human-bots, they don't read and just copy-paste prepared scripts. It's a form of mining.
We follow you because you have something to show us, sometimes we have no idea what you are talking about because this is a new world for many of us. We try to read you and learn from you. Maybe Our comments are meaningless, short, long... important thing is the impact that your post made to us. 😊👍🏼
Hey @joseph ,
If you, and some other bigger fishes in steemit, pay a bit, I am willing to write a bot that automatically flags comments like that.
100 SBD will be enough, I guess.
(There's also another way - when I post the script, simply reblog it, and tell some other big people to reblog it as well. This will earn me pretty much the same amount.)
(I will write the script, but someone else will have to run it.)
Dangerous path my friend. I would like no part in someone that has no vested interest in making sure that steem grows deciding what posts of mine to censor. Pretty sure that many feel the same way. If I want to post a comment that says "nice!" who are you to create a bot to block it? If you don't like comments like that...don't publish posts or mute all of your followers so you don't see their comments. No need to pay you to write a simple filter script and help spread censorship by supporting or posting it. Against the spirit of this platform. Just my thoughts because guess what...you can do what you want. I can't censor you from doing it. Neat how that works in your benefit too hey? Steem on one word comment leavers, it's your right to do that on here, and steem on censor promoting people, it's your right to do that on here. No support of your script idea from me my friend. Maybe reconsider your stance as you are obviously interested in profiting from creating a bot to stop people from profiting. A bit long but it took off when I began writing. #freedom
I see what you are saying. I think that the right way is to change the game...convince the creators of steem and the 200,000+ users you are right. Like I said, don't hate the player, hate the game. I am a player in the game, if I just decide I want a new rule for all that doesn't make it a rule. Writing your own rule to censor bots off of everyone's feed I still think is wrong.
Write the code to protect your own account and offer it to people who are interested in it only? Maybe that is your answer.
Or...find out how to change the entire game.
I have no choice but to obey any rule change made by everyone including the developers. Get them to agree and allow them to code in the changes.
Finally...I am not saying that I support bots, saying I support the game as it is. I still will always enjoy a "good post" comment left on my posts.
You will not have enough bandwidth to make a dent. You might want to suggest this to steemit team.
Dan has been flagging them. They come bitch in Steemit Chat after.
this post really hurt my feelings :(
i always try to be nice thats why i say Thats a forking nice post ;))
STeemOn call me Steeminator :)
I agree if you comment on something you should follow topic. However I would urge you to consider the people commenting are just trying to figure steemit out and see if they can make a little money. Being new myself it does seem like a slow grind to create any income. The idea is that everyone on steemit should be able to make money and the more they make the more people will want in and drive up value this would cause the "whale" to have the most incentive to make the small fish that are trying to create quality content feel welcome and rewarded.
In response to your post. I can honestly say that I am guilty as charged. The truth is that this system is kind of set up so that one learns as you go. One has to search through a lot of mindless posts before finding a truly engaging read. Just another minnow trying to move up the food chain! 🐓🐓
I'm right there with you @joseph... with very few exceptions.
Yesterday, I even found myself flagging a few pieces of blatant "copy-pasta" masquerading as "real" comments... visiting the poster's page revealing that the same 4-sentence comment had been plopped on about 300 posts.
I also consider myself really tolerant... but here's the thing-- and this bears saying-- "I know this music." This kind of "blah-comment-soup" can destroy a user content site... and it WILL, unless active steps are taken to render it effectively worthless. That means those of us who actually care about content and care about the long-term well-being of Steemit need to not just turn our heads the other way... we need to be active participants; at the very least helping SteemCleaners & co. tag and flag obvious abuse of the system... because GUESS WHAT? If we don't do this, we won't have a system, 12 months from now.
Sure, there'll still be a Steemit, but we'll be sitting here in a cesspool of fluff, with $0.02 Steem because there isn't "something here" anymore, that anyone in their right mind will INVEST in.
I'm not saying we are here to be the "thought police" because this is intended to be a censorship free "alternative" social platform... but here's the analogy I like to use: Think of Steemit as a ship we're ALL sailing on. And now some of the passengers are thinking that "drilling holes in the hull" is the way they want to express their free speech. Are we all supposed to just "look the other way" in order for them to have their "censorhsip free" experience... so we can proudly ALL go down with the ship... in service of freedom? "The all drowned, but they were FREE!!" sorry, but from where I'm sitting, that's the same level of spiritual idiocy that drives the New Age industry...
/end rant... and sorry about having a sub-rant on your rant.
Postscript: Sometimes it IS OK to simply leave a "really beautiful photos!" on a photo essay. I'm 100% OK with that. What I am not OK with is repeatedly copied "Great Post! This adds so much value! I have upvoted and followed You! Please visit my latest post, it is really good! Now you should upvote and follow me so we can all Steemit together" copied on 300 posts a day by someone who's following 5000 people after four days and endlessly upvotes all their own spammy comments. Sorry, NOT OK!
In addition to bots & users panning for free crypto it's also possible that some folk simply lack the ability to express themselves in a meaningful way, or are just plain apathetic.
A comment screening script or bot similar to that proposed by @investigation may become necessary, one that assesses the length of the comment & checks its content against word/phrase lists, but I imagine this would need to run server-side.
Steemit has Cheetah searching for plagiarism, why not Chatterbox to detect comment submissions that are too short or generic and, potentially, warn the user on consequences for reputation if they choose to proceed with submission.
It is indeed very disturbing to read such comments dear! Wondering if someone can create a bot which automatically detect users doing such things and flag them directly!
Yes. It is easy.
Step 1 - find all new comments
Step 2 - filter them to only comments that are shorter than 30 characters, or something like that (saves time)
Step 3 - filter them to only comments of users with lower reputation (saves time)
Step 4 - get their previous comments
Step 5 - If the user had posted the same comment more than 5 times - flag it.
interesting idea. I wonder if that is possible with the amount of comments we get, there is no flagging authority that can handle that amount of spam.
Find my other comment in this post, in which I propose to write the script for some money.
Catching all the intended comments would be hard, but it also doesn't take much... I'm "not much" in the klout department, but I hid some obvious copy-pasta yesterday with a very low percentage flag... even a "fractional" (less than 1%) flag vote from a 50,000SP account could deal with a LOT of garbage.
I think the idea here is less to "catch everyone" than to send a clear message to the hordes who are arriving here from Amazon Mechanical Turk that "clicking for cents" is NOT a viable (profitable) endeavor on Steemit.
hi sir i need ur help for ranking me. ur 1 vote give me a chance to upgrade rank
This is sad , people just want money and they are very greedy. Can't they see that Steemit isint just about money?
While a true statement...it's not just about the money... being rewarded is part of what makes steemit different. That portion has attracted great content writers and inspired others to put a lot of effort into creating. To imply that people shouldn't even consider the rewards is going against the spirit of steem as well. Slippery conversation. I say upvote comments you make if you want. Don't hate the player, hate the game. I personally think this game is pretty great.
Totall agree with this! when i first started out on steemit, only a couple of weeks back, I was upvoting every comment that was made on my posts. it took me a few days to notice the same people leaving short meaningless comments on everything I wrote! I think they obviously noticed I was upvoting them regularly and just did it as a matter of course. I have since stopped and I am much more careful about the comments I upvote. needless to say, I have upvoted your blog and resteemed! lol ps nice post!😉