I do have to agree, the comment is large and loud, and could be toned down for sure.
This idea of giving curators more of an incentive to curate is a newer explanation that I hadn't heard until maybe a week or two ago, which I find interesting. I obviously can't claim to have seen every thought about using bots or why it would be worth it, though, so I'm glad to finally run across it because it does actually make the most sense, if there are humans actually curating.
The day wait is interesting, too. You must have a decent group of followers who regularly curate your content, so you can then add to their rewards?
Thank you for your kind reply. I very much appreciate your time.
I've noticed that you're very responsive person. I also just looked at your profile hoping that I may find some common interests but it seem that we dont share that many lol :)
"This idea of giving curators more of an incentive to curate is a newer explanation that I hadn't heard until maybe a week or two ago, which I find interesting."
Im a social media marketer (different industry and different platform) and I studied Steemit and psychology that is behind this platform and I realized that all my efforts of building solid followerbase can go to waste if I will lose those followers. Quite many people end up frustrated because it's so hard to build your reach and make any profit here.
So my goal is to help my followers and if I notice that someone is engaging a lot then Im auto-voting all his posts and on top of that Im trying to engage and comment his articles even more. I realized that people here spent so much energy trying to chease their dream of 10k followers base.
I rather like to have 1k followers but loyal and engaging.
I also noticed that many people are checking their curation rewards and if they see that rewards coming from upvoting my posts are higher then most likely they will auto-vote my posts as well.
Im using bots and I hardly ever break even. That's the fact. So do I make money? Not really. But it does help my curators and this is what we should care in a long run.
Let's face it. We're all here to take care of our own business in the first place. So if I would convince you that following me will bring you profits and that we have similar interests. Wouldnt you follow back?
Knowing that I will engage back, I will auto-vote your posts, I will be using bots 1 day after posting article to bring more value into curation pool rewards.
Sorry for such a long reply.
I wish those bots would be posting shorter comments.
Cheers,
Piotr
No worries with the long reply. I really don't mind them, since mine can be on the long side, too, :)
I think that it does take more than a few words to have a meaningful exchange of opinions and ideas.
I'm glad you're concerned about your curating followers, and I hope they do actually reciprocate. I also agree that the amount of loyal fans is more important than the total.
However, I also want followers who are discerning and discriminating in the type of content they consume. I don't want anything automatic. I want eyeballs on what I write. I want engagement. I'll take the upvotes, too, but ultimately, I'm not writing just to write and take my sliver of the reward pool. I'm here to build a following of readers who actually value what I write because they read it.
So, instead of automatically following back the followers, I engage with those who engage with me, and i upvote their comments. I also will go looking at their posts now and then and upvote those if I like what I see. But nothing is automatic with me. I know, I'm among the small minority here, but that's how I do it, and it's how I would like it to happen on my posts.
Ultimately, everyone is free to decide how they will do things here, which I'm okay with as long as that allows me to do it my way, too.
I understand the desire to make a profit here, but it's a long slow game for those of us who don't have cash to invest or weren't smart enough to work on the server or client side of the blockchain.
I wish you well. I hope you continue to find your way here. I don't know if you're interested, but there all kinds of leagues and communities and initiatives to get involved with if you haven't done so and are interested. Those folks tend to help one another as much as they can given their own circumstances. But they're doing it together, which helps make the slogging here a little more tolerable. :)
Didn't need to go to your profile to see we have in common those things that are more important than topics or subject matter. Saw it in your comment on Transparency Bot's intro. Saw it in this post and even moreso in this reply. Seems some of us are in it for reasons other than the money. I mean, we all probably want money, but it's obvious to me that it's not your primary reason for being here. Funny part is that while it is probably my primary reason for being in Steemit, I can't imagine taking the bot path many have alluded to. Even if I could afford to. Lol. Not to step on any toes. It just seems like trickery to me. Auto votes seems way contrary to the idea here. What if you have me on auto vote and I post something you absolutely don't agree with? I guess it doesn't matter to some. Sigh. Oh well. Really nice reading you. You're a great and educational writer. Glad I follow you in spite of a possible non-commonality or two. Hehe. Paz y mas.
Ah, so it was the transparency bot rant comment. :) I think I actually threw the kitchen sink at that one, too.
Okay, well, then you've basically been hit with my thoughts on bots. And the complicated but intricate webs they weave between themselves and actual human users.
I do have to say, though, not using bots is the harder path. It's tough when you watch others inflating their rewards. I'm not going to equate it to anything like a capital crime or some major morality faux pas because it's not. It's a means to an end. Unfortunately, despite all of the arguments, old and new, I'm not yet convinced they even need to exist let alone of their absolute importance.
Auto voting is another thing. Good spotting that. I understand why people do it. I appreciate the confidence in me or whoever, but I do want to be read, too.
I came here for the money. I stay because of the cause. Not so much to join others in it, but to carve out my own little space, and hold to whatever principles I'm holding to. And for me, that means posting, commenting and curating. Then repeat. :)
hi
"I'm glad you're concerned about your curating followers, and I hope they do actually reciprocate. I also agree that the amount of loyal fans is more important than the total."
We're on the same page. Excellent :)
"I hope you continue to find your way here. I don't know if you're interested, but there all kinds of leagues and communities and initiatives to get involved with if you haven't done so and are interested. Those folks tend to help one another as much as they can given their own circumstances. But they're doing it together, which helps make the slogging here a little more tolerable. :)"
I didnt know about it. Could you please tell me more?
Thank you for your time
The communities here generally revolve around what you like, so I would suggest hanging out in a tag of your choosing to see what you can find there. As far as leagues and initiatives, I'm not the best person to ask about specific ones, but @davemccoy does quite a bit around newbie contests and games, and @abh12345 has a curation and engagement leagues he runs. There are offshoots of those, as well. If you had something you might be interested in, either one of them might be better suited to direct you to it. There's folks all over the place, really. It just depends on interest and what you need/want to feel more involved and at home here. :)
Thanks for introducing me to those two accounts.
I also noticed that you're interested with @Haejin case? Good read :)
You're welcome. I saw you made it over to the curation and engagement leagues results post abh12345 runs.
As for haejin, I'm not sure if it's interest so much as it is a feeling I need to know what's going on. There's quite a bit of reward pool money being churned there, both through what he earns and what they essentially flag away from him. And since it's a significant amount, I wonder what it does to the rest of the pool, as well as the lack of voting power does for all those who are flagging. So, I've been keeping my eye on it while keeping a healthy distance, too. :)
"You're welcome. I saw you made it over to the curation and engagement leagues results post abh12345 runs."
Im not sure what do you mean or who abh12345 is. Could you please let me know?
Also if H makes more rewards ... does it actually affect anyone? I know that there is rewards pool but arent we always rewarded pretty much same % (around 75%)?