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RE: Steemit's Got Issues! - Bid Bot Abuse - Take 1

in #steemit7 years ago (edited)

I understand where you coming from, and indeed, it are not the buyers who profit a lot, it are the users who rent their SP to bots, or use their own SP for their own bot who profit a LOT. Before we could rent out SP to vote bots, we could use SP to give a vote to some post, own or some other users post. Now, a bot vote giving 2$ on a post may get 1SBD for that vote, which is a lot more than any users could get when manual or auto voting posts and comments.

You also seem to move all issues to Steemcleaners. Well, that is a very simple way out, dump all issues onto them. I can tell you, Steemcleaners is by far not taking care of all the abuse. For what reasons, I don't know.

How cool would it be all the SP in the hands (own or rented) by bot owners to be combined and given to curation teams! Curation teams are more and more required to give votes to better content, whatever 'better' means. In reality, curation teams are loosing their SP, from users who gave/rented some of their SP to curation teams in favour of renting it out to vote bots.

Your calculation on post/comment rewards is wrong btw, the profit is even less, when SBD has a higher value than 1 US$. That said, the profit to the bot owner on a SBD based bit is larger.

What a particular hate (to use a very strong word) is when people try to bring a story! I don't know you, and I have nothing against you personally, but you brought a story. Why am I saying that? Well, because you brought half the truth, and not the complete truth! Of course, that is allowed. Nobody has to be objective when bringing their opinion and knowledge, but it is misleading and it reduces your own credibility when creating posts like this, at least in the eyes of those who understand the topic from left to right.

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You are not making any sense. It could be the language barrier, not sure.

First of all, People have been delegating their SP for a long time here. Bots were no where near where it started. How do you think many of the famous accounts like sweetsssj got their SP?

You are right that bots make profit, however for the first time ever, someone who has not kissed the ass of a whale can now get noticed on their posts by using them.

Also, this is not a new concept by any means. Whales were selling their votes long before bots ever started to.

I'm not moving all issues to Steemcleaners. In fact, if you read this, every issue that I say the abuser should be reported to steemcleaners, I also say they should be blacklisted against being able to use bots which is far more effective. If you paid attention you would also know that the reason that steemcleaners has not taken care of all abuse is because this is nearly impossible. They are ran by one person and they constantly ask for help from the community by asking all of us to report abusers to them. Which is only one of the things I've mentioned to do here.

This was never a discussion about the profit of bid bots. Read the title, it was a discussion about bid bot abuse. Which, as I've laid out pretty extensively is coming from abusers that get through and become able to use them. Which is being taken care of at a rapid rate as we speak.

It seems that you have confused the motive of this post with some of your own hatred of bots or perhaps some of your own motives. My motive was to show the platform the bid bot abuse issue which is precisely what I have done.

hello how, I write you because I transferred to the bot upvote sneaky-ninja 0.500SBD and then the bot never gave his vote for the publication but said he had voted for a percentage of 2.02% would like to know why that happened?