The Different Sides of SteemIt - An Opinion

in #steemit7 years ago

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A little insight.

First, where I am coming from.

I joined SteemIt on Saturday morning, June 24th, 2017. I wasn't really intending anything major to happen here. I had been going down a rabbit-hole of cryptocurrency related surfing as I had recently taken up a very small shot at mining coins on my spare GPU cycles while I browsed.

I found this fascinating social network that was blockchain powered. So on the Friday night before it all began, I decided to sign up. They said they would email me when it was ready, and they might have to contact me via phone to verify I wasn't some nefarious spam bot.

I went to bed.

I woke up early Saturday to find that my account had been approved with little fuss.

It's been pretty much downhill from there.

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I started reading, and posting, and planning my 'introduceyourself' post. All the while, finding people to discuss things with on steemit.chat. I came into contact with people like @acidyo and @clevercreator and learned how awesome this community was going to be.

At some point, I sat down to learn Markdown while creating my first post, a classic introduceyourself. I got responses. Wow, people were real.

Ok, lets write a couple more. So I created my second and third posts about random things.

Somewhere in there I decided to try out the 'postpromotion' channel of steemit.chat, and found one small negative to an environment like this. One of those 'sides' to SteemIt I am here to discuss in this post.
Upon placing my link in there, a user decided to upvote it. Yay! He even told me that he did.


Then he demanded I upvote his post in return.


Wait? What? Sure, let me read it and see if it is something I can upvote.

I got maybe 20 seconds into reading it before Steemit.chat pinged me again with a mention. He was wondering why I hadn't upvoted yet. I informed him that once I read it I would decide on the upvote.
The next 10 minutes were spent listening to him complain and call me unfair, to tell everyone in chat to NOT upvote anything I posted because I wouldn't upvote back.

I eventually tired of the argument and left the postpromotion channel entirely.

Then I met the other 'side' of SteemIt. Two different users, at the same time, who had been in another chat were discussing my argument with this guy and reached out to inform me that they backed my beliefs about upvoting entirely. @Anritco and @snowwhite were amazing to chat with, and through them, I got invites to several groups. So far, the best of these has been the Minnow Support Project ( @minnowsupport ). Check out a recent post about them.

Seeing both of these 'sides' I started to notice a feeling, or vibe off the various members I came into contact with. It's not always obvious, and there are plenty of middle-ground-types to muddy the waters of my opinion. Still this is what I had found in general.

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So, in no particular order, I give you the 'Sides'


Side 1 - In It To Win It

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These are your upvote for upvote, post any content that will get resteemed, seen, or upvoted - types. Quality is only a means unto a rewarding end. The type that are bringing down the entire network because they want to make 'money' here without providing value-added content to it. They will not help SteemIt become widely adopted and serve only to dilute the curation of the rest of SteemIt. I wish we could see less of this.

Side 2 - The Rest of Us

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These are the 'think hard about what I post' types. The ones who give us something to read, to laugh at, to cry at. They move us, they inform us. Their content is original and worthy. They don't hunt for the upvotes or the followers. They just provide, and trust that the rest of the 'Rest of Us' will see to them. Support these posters when they arrive and come along. They are adding value to the entire venture and will help it remain for many years to come.

Now this isn't to say that the 'Rest of Us' aren't going to enjoy the rewards, but it's not the sole driving force in their content. They aren't doing every little dirty trick to get it, but neither will they turn it down. I admire this kind of member and their type of content. I try and follow those that are of like-mind. I will say that I have found my home in the MSP (Minnow Support Project). It is a beautiful community that is growing very very quickly and is always looking for more people of similar mind. It can help you build a following and boost your exposure, but it is by no means friendly to the spam-friendly, upvote begging, cheap content types.

Since then, I have even been the victim of 'flag war' just for posting some of my own low SP flags on some posts in NSFW that were clearly plagiarized. I wanted to help out the awesome @o0pepper0o, and suffered a lot of hate for it. You can read about this here.

TL;DR = Help grow the community by only curating content that is worthy of your vote.

It will help us all in the long run.


Do you disagree? Agree?

Comment below with some opinions. I can't be the only one who has one.

Thanks - @discordiant


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This post received a 2.2% upvote from @randowhale thanks to @gmuxx! For more information, click here!

Having friends to counter the rest of the world is awesome! Thanks @gmuxx !

In it for the stories. People can be interesting, sometimes. Not so much in it for the whole "steemit circle jerk" that can happen a lot of the time. I do love the website though. Wonderful concept to monetize content.

No doubt that I enjoy it being monetized, but I would come for the community even if the curation worked with a closed currency only on the site.

This was helpful. Thank you for being willing to speak up and jump in to get involved. I'm new here too and I deeply want to share the value that I've spent a lifetime acquiring. Whether I make money or not right away is secondary to providing authentic, helpful content that touches people's lives in a positive way at the same time that it satisfies my own creative need to express. Rock on!

If you aren't already there, I would recommend you come join the PAL Discord (Minnow Support Project)

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@discordiant great post, and great community. 😁

Precious @discordiant, here is @pastorlea of alwaysloved. you can follow me too. upvote and resteem as well. much love and appreciation

Hi there @discordiant! I knew that you will do great on Steemit. Don't let anyone bully you, follow your path and upvote according to your interests!
Keep going! :)

Thank you! You seriously have no idea how much you adding me to PALnet Discord has changed my outlook on SteemIt. Come be social in there sometime. It has grown even in the time I have been here.

My pleasure! I'm having rough times at work recently and very limited time, but I will be back, I promise :)

Nice analyses, @discordiant
I am here since yesterday and have been wondering whether the Steemit model could work in favor of quality writing. Let’s wait and see... :")

Find the right audience and quality will be rewarded. Don't forget that the Minnow Support Project can help with that.

nice post ... check my post there is some good cheat sheet maybe interesting you https://steemit.com/steemit/@royhamada/new-cheet-sheet-footer-and-header-gif

Irony, thy name is SteemIt. I appreciate the article, but how was this related?

I just try to do the best I can with what little I have. The whole curation side of things is still a little overwhelming to me, so mostly I just post and upvote all the things I feel are undervalued. Not really gone in for flagging as I don't feel my opinion of anothers work is valid enough to constitute putting it down.

The purpose of a flag or downvote is nothing with putting it down. It serves the purpose to bring light to content that doesn't meet community guidelines. (Fake, Spam, Plagiarized, abusive, etc.) Still, you aren't required to use it if you aren't comfortable with it.

I just want to uplift and empower, I feel bad downvoting. D:

I'll leave that for the stronger among us. <3

I swear this isn't spam >.> BUT awesome post! You've captured just about every "The Rest of Us" 's point of view. Hopefully, this trend of being too money-driven would dwindle down and we'd get to see contents that are actually well thought of.

I happen to know this ISN'T any sort of spam. I am glad to see you commenting. Thanks for the compliment and I too hope that eventually content becomes the focus, not the means, here.

"Awesome post!" ... Followed you, please follow me ---> it starts from the "Awesome". :P

Very funny. Hah! I am pretty sure I already was...

Troublemaker.

Fluffy bear.

Agree! I can't stand the whole upvote me, I'll upvote you / follow me ill follow you.
I posted something about a week ago, first reaponse I got was someone saying "nice post here is my post"
Now, I would generally be cool with that if the post was at all related to mine. It was not even of a distant relation to mine. >_<
This person was basically spamming my post with their unrelated content. So I asked them did it Have anything to do with my post.
*no, but it will help you. Please upvote/follow. I refused and gave a brief little bit of info regarding steemit etiquette and how if you don't comment related stuff, it's spammy. Ugh. As if that needs to be explained. Its like me saying
"The blue sky calms me"
Someone else: "look at My new car"
UNRELATED!

Welcome, glad you are getting involved. My advice is simply this. Be Honest, if someone is harassing you for an up vote, tell them no and why. You are fully entitled to your opinion. If you see something you think should be flagged, leave a comment stating why, personally I don't know enough about the NSFW world to know who has paid for rights for what.

Glad you see the whole point to being able to creatively create something on Steemit and allowing it to bear fruit

Great post !! I'm with you all the way!

My upvote and resteem almost always coupled with a reply are earned, not begged for!

I may not agree with your post, but I can see the value in it, the effort and thought or artistic process. And that deserves my upvote, resteem, and further conversation.

The best part of sharing content with others is when you don't agree. If all we ever saw was information we already had, or already believed, or felt; What would be the point?

Really great post!

I tried to say the same thing over and over again in my articles, and I still do it, even if I may annoy people a little bit. I've been on the internet for a long time, and I know what influence great content can have on people. I know how it feels, as a consumer, to be touched by great content so much that you just want to give something to the author.

People asked me to upvote their posts when they upvoted mines, and I just ignore them. Why would I upvote something I don't truly like? It would be unfair for all the people who spend hours and hours working to create great articles.

Even today I had a conversation with a person telling him why quality content is way more important than anything, and why I managed to make $300 in two weeks with 200 posts and he couldn't in a month, with 1200 posts.

Of course, he was telling me about the numbers, and how important upvotes are, and how he's not willing to spend a lot of time writing and creating high quality content, that I'm capable of writing long articles while he has to invest more time into them, and he doesn't want that.

I don't understand why people aren't willing to invest everything they have into great content, and create something with love. Rewards will come if you do what you like, you don't need to do it for upvotes.

It's not about how many upvotes you have and how much money you make, it's about what you create. If you create something great without expecting anything in return, you will get rewarded.

I managed to write a 23 pages post and I did it because I love computer and because I'd like to help people use them better, not because i want money. I used my passion to create something great, and that makes me proud of myself.

Steemit needs people who create high quality content, and the community will make sure those people are rewarded. That's one of the things I love about Steemit.

Anyway, great article, really motivational and a real pleasure to read. Keep up the good work!

I just ignore those spam beggars. I only get it once in awhile.

I'm afraid this was probably your problem:

"postpromotion channel"

I too started out there, and quickly learned it was just a place where people will spam you with PMs to upvote their stuff. Any upvotes you get there will be 2 cent sized.

I believe you are better off sticking to churning out comments and new content to promote yourself, rather than haggling with the most beginner area of the minnow pool.

Just my 2 cents, could be wrong, maybe PP was on a bad week when I hung out there.

I have honestly found my home in the #minnowsupportproject and the people there. Amazing community.

It is indeed a great crew of helpful people.

I like what you said about "provide, and trust that ...the 'Rest of Us' will see" :)

You have my entire support man, many times I speak about this kind of situations, I even make posts speaking about it and I can say with all confidence that you are doing well. Because the way of getting further is about contrast: about being different.

So I am glad that you are.

You get the same thanks as @snowwhite. You guys are amazing for introducing me to MSP. It's been what I needed.