Why You Have No Bandwidth if You’re a New Steemian, Like Me

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If you are a proud fledgling minnow, like myself, and are waking up in the morning bright-eyed and ready to take on the steem world by force, ideas for original and compelling content in your mind just waiting to be unleashed, only to find this:

(insert @ account here) bandwidth limit exceeded. Please wait to transact or power up STEEM.

Don't panic. You have not been banned, you're not being punished and, most importantly:

You, my friend, are not alone.

What’s Bandwidth and What’s Happening

Bandwidth is a rate limiter. It helps slow down chain interactions to help keep spam down and the network moving efficiently.

A little techy?

Bear with me for a moment and let’s imagine bandwidth, the capacity of what Steem can handle (as far as posts, comments, upvotes, edits, etc.), as a large bag of m&m's - with me?


(it’s a quite a bit of m&m's)

You need an m&m for every interaction you make on Steem, but there are only so many m&ms in the bag.

The server prioritizes those who have an investment in Steem (Steem Power – SP), granting bandwidth priority based on the SP of accounts. Thus, the m&ms go to these users who have invested more in the platform, usually longer standing members who have created a lot of quality content.

With the explosion of SP and STEEM price, more people are both creating accounts and posting, including an uptick in postings and interactions by the larger accounts here on Steem.

This has gotten to the point where there are not enough m&ms for all the interactions happening on Steem, remember that there are only so many in the bag (so many interactions that bandwidth can process).

Thus, newer accounts who haven’t done enough yet to build steem don’t have any m&ms left when it gets to our turn to interact.

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What This Means For New Steemians


As many of us have already noticed, there can be large chunks of the day when interacting with Steem is actually impossible.

Peak hours tend to be around 9:00am – 1:00pm EST, when US Steem users are most active. During these times, without any interaction with the platform for the past 12 hours, I’ve seen my bandwidth fall below -200% quite frequently.

To clarify, all accounts are being trottled in relation to peak bandwidth an equal amount.

That said, since SP is tied to priority, anyone below the threshold (usually us newer accounts) being set by the use the server is seeing can find their bandwidth dropping below 0% to allow the server to function properly.

Meanwhile, the same % server drop for larger accounts only sees their bandwidth go down 10% or so - it's relative to the SP they've invested in the platform.

Everyone is affected, not just those of us who have not grown our account above the Steem designated 15 SP threshold, but we are in the cut off zone currently for bandwidth overloads.

This is tied by a recent move by Steem to lower the designated SP to new accounts from the original 28 SP to the current 15 SP to try and balance the growth the platform is seeing - again, you’re not alone!

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Why This is A Big Problem


What’s the best way for us minnows to grow our accounts here on Steem so that we can get enough SBD and Steem to get above that 15 SP threshold? Create and post quality original content and otherwise comment and interact with the community around us, of course!

…we need bandwidth to do that; which we can’t have unless we have SP from our posts; which can’t be posted without bandwidth; which we don’t have unle… you see the problem.

Unfortunately, there might not be an easy fix, and this does mean that interactions will be impossible during these peak server hours. So…

What You Can Do About It?



1) Monitor.


You can check your bandwidth at steemd.com/@(accountname) , this will help you know when you can interact. That said, don’t just stare at the page refreshing and hoping for something different – use that time productively! How, maybe…


2) Plan and Prioritize.


Plan what you are going to do when you do have SP again. Want to write a post? GREAT! Get into wordpad, word or other html sites that aid with markdown like hackmd.io or @busy.org (which even allows for drafts - wow!)

Want to leave an awesome comment? same thing! Save links to tabs you want to interact with so that you can quickly pull them up when server interactions ease down again.

Want to edit? Please don't! this is probably the worst thing you can do since every edit you make will use the full amount of bandwidth it would take to effectively 'repost' from scratch - plan accordingly so that your edits will be at a minimum. This could also be a good time to…


3) Build Your Steemit Community.


Building community isn’t only done on Steem, get on servers on discord and interact with the community in chats! It takes no m&ms, and it can be a fun way to learn more about your fellow steemians and meet like interested creators.

I'm regularly over at @IsleofWrite for all things literature, and places like @minnowsupport are literally built to help Newsteemians acclimate to the Steem ocean, and these are just scraping the surface.

Get out there, find channels with your interests, and learn from some experienced Steamy Steemians. Ask some questions, they don't usually bite. While you're at it, be sure to...


4) Power Up!


Power up your SBD to Steem as soon as you can! Just getting above that 15 SP threshold will help a bit with minimizing the time you're locked out, but it'll take a good investment to make bandwidth issues a problem of the past for your account.

That said, with more SP comes more priority by the servers, so what better time to start now. And, while you're at it…


5) Be Patient.


Steem wasn't built in a day, the old saying goes, and, while I from experience know it can be hard because you want to grow from a minnow to a whale shark right meow, please remember that patience is a virtue.

Steem is growing, the community is growing, understand there will be growing pains. Everything won’t always be perfect, but know that there is a helpful community working hard behind the scenes to try and resolve these issues.


 

Please let me know if you have any questions, happy to talk about my experiences of being locked out various times the past week for hours without having interacted with steem at all up to ~10 hours previous!

Ideas for solutions?! You’re a smarter one than me, leave them down and let’s get some bright ideas voted up so steem can seem some possible ways to move forward.

Have other ways or tools to productively use your time during bandwidth blackouts? Put them in the comments! Would be happy to publish a future list w/ @(usernames) of anyone who has some quality solutions for us Newsteemians!

thank you to @geekorner and @crimsonclad for their patience in helping me learn enough to write this post. Also, @jrswab is hosting a contest for us minnows where, if chosen, he will delegate SP to give you more bandwidth, linked here.

And a HUGE thank you to @swelker101 for delegating me SP so I could have enough m&m's, i mean, bandwidth to publish this post - Saint Shane is my hero!

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What a fantastic positive approach! I haven't personally experienced this, probably because of my time zone which takes me out of peek time.

I do think something has to change. Until recently, new accounts received 28 SP, not 15, from the system. Though as my research today has shown me, the @steemit account, which is the one powering up all the new accounts, apparently ran out of SP to give, for new accounts to be created... and undelegation takes 7 days.

But something needs to be done. Users who did not act at all in 6-8 hours find themselves still unable to act when they first log on for the day. This is also an issue for the blockchain to decide, is it primarily a social network, or just another cryptocurrency? I'm actually not sure if the bandwidth that is being used for steemit-interactions shares the same space with trading on exchanges, but I don't see why it wouldn't.

And, if they do share space, then someone has to decide which has priority.

The clamping is brutal on new accounts. And if they can't interact for most of the day, why would they stick around to get more SP so they could? Even putting aside how hard it is to get there, as Alain pointed out above.

Great post! I was planning on doing a write up on this tomorrow so if I do I'll be sure to link to this. I tend to get deep in the tech side of things so this will be a good second read for any looking for an 'easy-to-read' version.

Also thanks for the shout out :D

definitely targeted to new account users, like myself, who are flooding chat rooms asking questions about something most didn't even realize was a problem.

it took me a bit to wrap my head around it all, with the help of many much more experienced users than myself (thanks again!), so i wanted to break it down as much as i could for people in my boat - the ones most affected who also have the least amount of prior knowledge and experience.

i just hope it finds those looking. Had a number of new users dm me after talking about it in the #help channels this morning, want to direct them somewhere so i'm not constantly copy pastaing, haha.

Thank you for all you do for Steem, @jrswab!

Really good post there. That should explain some of the issues to people.

thank you so much, Mark, i really hope so, too.

like many thing, it doesn't have an easy solution, but hopefully more knowledge will at least hope ease the minds of new users like myself who thought they might be doing something wrong or were being banned or some such.

Always appreciated, good sir!

A great analogy. Well done!

thank you so much, couldn't have done it without you going out of your way to be so incredibly kind and helpful to all us new minnows, @crimsonclad!

I have 38SP and I wasn't really able to post for about 4 hours today. Meanwhile I saw multiple spam accounts with just the delegated SP that were just rattling off posts like crazy. It's a weird system.

thanks for writing this!!! excellent job

thank you so much, pirate rabbit dog!!

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This helped me understand what the heck was happening this morning. Thanks so much! @carmalain7 @originalworks

so glad it helped, @dizzyjay, trying to keep us minnows in the loop.

Great write-up for all the new Steemians arriving!
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The bandwidth issue is definitely getting worse by the day, ended up investing a little so I could make posts when I was on the computer. (and of course, as an investment!)

As @geekorner said above me in the comments, something needs to change. The rate of new people joining is accelerating, yet how many of these people will stay and contribute when they're completely unable to interact with the site.
Not only that, but what will we do when the number of people doubles? Triples?
As you said, growing pains that need to be addressed. Hopefully sooner rather than later.

Hi @carmalain7. I'm rewarding authors and followers like you who contribute authentic original content to steemit by adding their names to my upvote bot. You should see my upvote appear on most of your posts going forward. Thanks!

Your article is perfectly designed to ensure your lower tech audience can find what they need, understand what they find and use what they find to meet what they need. Thank you for the plain language. Now I am your new follower :)

Love the M&Ms analogy! Makes it easy for non-tech indivs like myself to understand. You've simplified the issue, but I still have to wrap my head around it. I guess because I have to truly understand the concept of blockchain. New world for me. I'm still trying not to "like" every reply back to me since it's not your everyday social media environment where you can like something to show respect. Wanted to leave a comment to let you know I appreciate your helpful post!

thank you so much, @beeyou, i'm so glad that analogy stuck with you and helped!

i am still very much trying to wrap my head around the blockchain myself, it's so layered, it's difficult to keep up. trying to think of my interactions as exchanges rather than casual interactions has been a difficult transition, so i guess i'll just have to see what more time on the platform brings.

thank you for the comment, and all the best to you - Save the Bees! #SavetheBees

Great post! Thanks for taking the time to explain as it is something new users in my group are facing right now and I will share this to them right away! Blessings and I found you from MSP #help pinned messages btw. STEEM OM 🙏🏻

Thank you so much for the kind words, Keni, and so elated this post could be helpful to the new users you interact with, good sir!

Excellent explanation!

Another thing you could do to increase your bandwidth is to buy Steem and power up. I know buying cryptocurrencies isn't easy for everyone, but it's impossible for all of us to get free money from posting on an uncensored ad-free website. Someone will have to pay the bill. So far, @steemit has generously been paying the cost of creating an account for new users, but even their funds are not unlimited.

One of many guides: How to buy Steem.

Thank you for the read and comment, mate!

And yes, covered buying Steem and powering up in solution #4, but thank you for the extra literature that goes more in depth in the process, @edb, and thank you @mrslauren for writing such a detailed guide!

Just what I needed to understand the issue. I have a lot of friends who were scratching their heads.

One thing that wasn't clear however was that if the problem occurs when there are more people on STEEMIT what happens as more an more people join? Surely the problem will get worse to the point were it's almost impossible to use?

Thanks again!
JJ

From what I understand, @atomcollector, the people who need to be made aware of the problem have been and are already looking towards solutions.

hopefully it is quickly resolved and becomes an issue of the past - until then, though, you're right in that it might get worse before it gets better. all the more reason to band together as a community and support new users adding value to the platform!

thank you for the read and your comment, JJ, best of luck to you!

Let's hope so. We have a strong community of musicians that I am bringing over from my website and a couple of us are getting some very nice upvotes from a whale or two so we are using our rapidly growing power to help all the others.

Hopefully that is the best thing to do!

more water into the harbor lifts all boats!

I used to go through this problems a lot actually but thanks to some good soul on steemit who delegated me some steem power, i no longer face this issue.
If you are having these issues then these are some good steps you can take, as written in this article.
When i had this problem, i used to steem when everyone was sleeping. I would dedicate some 2 to 3 hours and do as many genuine comments as possible. You can try this method too if possible for you.

The bandwidth issue seemed like a feature intended to help with compulsive behavior. 😎

Nice to know what is really going on under the hood. Thanks!

i don't think there is anything sinister here, just a result of the speed of growth of the platform. yes, part of that will always be scammers and spammers, but there are different processes in place to try and out those.

I just had this happen to me and thought wtf now. This is very good info, thank you. Now I don't feel quite as banned. I'll be taking your advice.

you're not alone and it's definitely not a punishment, like you said @somethinfishy, just Steem growing pains. We're all in this together, and so glad you found some of the advice at the end helpful.

All the best to you in your creative endeavors here on Steem!

Thankyou for writing this. It came up for me for the first time yesterday. This is a technical article written in language i can understand so well done for that.

trying to find a way to convey what i learned in a manner everyone else like me (not technical) would understand it was definitely my goal, @shivvi, glad it came across.

Thank you so much!

I did wonder why I couldn't post when I wasn't doing a lot.......Thanks, I learned a lot! This is really helpful for non-techy people like me.

so elated to hear that, @tin-tin, thank you for letting me know as that was definitely the goal behind putting this together.

All the best in your Steeming and good luck with bandwidth, we're all a team in this!

d(>_・ )

Very good to know, my friend! Thank you, for sharing what you’ve learned, in an accessible manner (I was just beginning to wonder about this, yesterday, and had no clue what it meant).

I'm certainly still learning, Yahia, but after being locked out a number of days in a row and upon realizing it wasn't just me, realized all my curiosity could be put to good use.

Glad it came across accessibly, Yahia, and receiving support from someone whose writings I hold in such high regard means much and more; thank you, good sir!

Nothing better than learning together, and sharing our findings as we go along -- such is life :) Thanks, for the kind words, my friend. Onwards, upwards!

tremendous , helpful info as I am brand new and crawling thru this new world. I love it. So, your article is of great value, and hope , lol, for me to learn this. This is the beginning of the next thing for all of us to be . So, again. thank you. Sound Water Corp

Thank you so much for explain us this huge problem.
I was and I am crazzy for this because It is the first time I have this problem and i think is is because I have still the 15 SP T.T I think I have to invest on this.
Anyway good post my hero hehe

definitely part of the solution will be to gain more SP, but it might be a problem that will affect lower SP users beyond the 15 threshold - but powering up certainly will help.

glad this article was helpful to you, @gameofall26, my friend!

Great explanation! Haha - at first, I thought I was being penalized for having violated some unwritten rule of Steemit! While I'm sure that some new users might view this as a negative ("wait, what's going on here, this never happens with Facebook!") i tend to view it as a positive. It means that Steemit is growing by leaps and bounds. As you pointed out, there are bound to be growing pains along the way. As I see it, I paid $0 for my initial share of m&m's, so any that I manage to eat during the day is a pure bonus.

definitely not penalized - earlier ran into someone who thought their account might have been hacked. i'm glad you agree with me that this is a positive time for things ahead, even though it might lead to struggles now.

that's an excellent perspective, @dominicbasulto, also, @jrswab has a contest where he is granting SP to new users that might interest you, mate.

You, my friend, are not alone.
Gotta Laugh!
Minutes ago, I typed "You are not alone" in today's blog.
Different topic, but, yeah... we're all in this sh^t together. :)

We are not alone!

I was excited when I saw that in your blog, too, Carol - must be something in the water on the Isle...

thanks for posting this! this issue has been driving me crazy! nice to know I'm not alone. however, I have 33 SP and haven't been able to do much of anything today! I was completely locked out for over 4 hours today. so I'm not sure how much getting over that 15 SP limit really helps unfortunately.

First 2 attempts to post this comment have also failed...3rd times a charm?

Third is a charm!

yeah, the more i've talked with experienced users about this, the more they have related that it might be something that affects much more than just the 15 SP users for the near future. fingers crossed a solution is found and seamlessly integrated sooner rather than later.

When I first joined steemit this was a big problem. It got so bad that I almost completely gave up on the platform. I stayed away for months. I’ve just started really getting back into it over the past few weeks, so hopefully they’ll fix it soon.

Wow I did not even know this was an issue, very informative read!

Hello, I admit that I was a little lost with all the technical terms that I read everywhere, sometimes very interesting, but especially very complicated for someone who knows nothing. Your job is clear and well written it helps a lot. I had the same worry with the bandwidth yesterday and I did not know what to do. I had prepared my post (thankfully Steemit keeps a draft otherwise I would have to start again) so I came back this morning and everything was regularized. Thank you for this precious help.

You are the most welcome, @marie2018, very elated that this post was able to help. very thankful for the more experienced steemians who helped me understand enough to craft the article and help other like ourselves who aren't quite as tech savvy.

all the best to you in all your creative endeavors, Marie!

Thank you for this. It helps an older non-tech guy to understand what is going on. I voted and will resteem because there are surely many others who were confused by the notices. Peace.
P.S. It just happened again. :)

that was definitely the goal, @platosgroove, i'm not much of one who understands the intricacies of the tech talk, either.

glad this article proved to be helpful to you, good sir!

It did. I was a little paroniid about it all anyway. :)

thank you so much you have put everything into prospective. @carmalain.

Excellent post. Thank you for the info. With a rep of 47 though that's hardly newbie territory. You seem to be getting a lot of up votes, power them up and you'll have a load of steem power in no time.

Thank you so much for the kind words, @unclehermit, glad you found the post to be informative!

In my second week here on Steem, so the more i learn, the more i learn i need to learn. Rep is not something i've looked into yet, so i'll try to do some reading today.

Thank you, again! and all the best to you and your catte friend!

this definitely helped me get a better understanding - still not 100%, but moving in the right direction.

thank you for the share, @unclehermit!

Thank you for this post! It really explained what the bandwidth is all about.

Excellent post, you have really spend some time juxtaposing this.... Great work Sir.

Thanks for the writeup

Itu like this post cause be excellent for me the new steemit
..thanks so much

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Excellent bro, I support you in everything

Thank you for this post...... It's comes with much enlightenment.

Great post, great concept of imagery! Thanks for breakin’ it down!
Reposted!

Happened to me too I was so frustrated and then I realized I could directly deposit to my steem power only from currencies outside the platform (in my case DOGE). It is broken that it doesn't let you power up with your Steem on your profile since you cannot do anything though that seem counter intuitive

Thanks for this clear explanation, it was driving me crazy. Off to Power Up now :-)

This was really helpful!! Thank you alot! :) <3

Steemd has been down since the day after i joined, sadly.

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Thanks for this

Seems these kind of introductions is exactly what any minnow would need! I had no idea!

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