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RE: Applications Team Update: Hivemind/Communities, Sign-ups, Developer Tools, and Condenser (steemit.com)

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Tell me this, dummy, why would ANYONE buy Steem just to reward others while not rewarding themselves? Doesn't that seem ass backwards to you?

If I'm buying Steem and powering it up, you sure as shit better believe I'm going to upvote myself as much as possible.

Remove/limit self-voting and you remove EVERY reason to buy Steem.

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You get curation rewards as well as interest rate on SP. I don't self upvote, and neither with 10x or 100x more SP, I still wouldn't self upvote, just because of moral reasons. By helping others now, you also increase the value of Steem later, because this builds a strong community.

Congratulations? I dunno, that seems silly to me, but, to each their own...

I totally understand if you don't find your content to have any value, but then why write it in the first place?

Neah, we just have different mentalities :) Don't you have more satisfaction when there are other people voting your posts instead of yourself?

And also, don't you find it more satisfying when you upvote a complete stranger, who worked a lot for a post that nobody upvoted?

On the other side, I don't judge anybody who self upvotes. This whole place is something completely amazing, because we can see how people act as communities or individuals when money are involved. And it is a case study that keeps the data immutable. I guess this should be more expensive than it really is :)

You sound very clear to me . Thanks @mejustandrew

What @berniesanders say may be rough, but it's the hard truth. The way the Steem blockchain works incentives everyone to be content producers. We Steemians can't compare ourselves to regular internet folks who binge Buzzfeed videos. We are all trying to be the youtubers and the medium bloggers of the blockchain. What incentives non-steemian content creators to go great lengths to create content elsewhere in the internet?

That's right.

And if it helps them to motivate themselves, a self-vote that big of a deal.

And to honest self voting isnt even that much of an issue when compared to the other problems the Steem blockchain is currently facing.

The way the Steem blockchain works incentives everyone to be content producers.

Not everyone. You see only a part of the ecosystem and believe that this is it. There are curators, voting bots, people looking for advertisment, and many others. Soon (hopefully) this ecosystem will grow even more with SMTs.

And to honest self voting isnt even that much of an issue when compared to the other problems the Steem blockchain is currently facing.

What other issues?

I believe @kevinwong did a few very explanatory posts about it.

I'm not in favor of turning off self-voting. Holders of SP must have ways to profit from their SP while not powering down. If you restrict those ways too much there will be adverse consequences.

But two things come to mind as to why buying STEEM makes sense even without the possibility of self-voting:

  1. If you don't power up STEEM, you can still buy it for speculative reasons, which is why it has mainly been bought in the past and why it continues to be bought to this day.

  2. Also, if powering up in order to be able to self-vote makes sense, then delegating to bidbots makes sense, too, which requires powering up.

Hey MarkyMark!
YES, we can change steem economy so that this all makes sense, I just read Kevin Wong tonight, I agree with his views; your views are not going to help long term, and won't fix a broken economy, and I don't care if you buy SP or not bro!

Plenty of takers when we change it around so doing NO WORK and sitting on ass won't create value.

I am not MarkyMark, have you gone retarded?

I laughed so much reading this comment :)) I don't even know why I find it funny...