How Comments Are Paid Out

in #steemit8 years ago (edited)

You're Just As Confused As I am


We need an in depth answer to the crazy system that is made up of comments.

As per steemit's whitepaper-

Rewarding Parent Posts
Good discussion requires back and forth posting. When you reply to someone else, they get
50% of any payout you receive in that thread. This rule applies up to 6 levels deep. Starting a
big discussion greatly rewards the parent poster.
Failure to properly nest your posts in the discussion is a good way to get down voted.
This incentive structure motivates people to contribute in a way that motivates others to get
involved. It encourages people to ask good questions so that others can provide valuable
answers.

Payouts
When a post receives a payout it takes the form of 50% SMD and 50% SP. The Steem Power
give the user increased voting and transaction power while the SMD gives the user an
immediate benefit in a stable currency. As we’ve already discussed at length, both SP and
SMD are designed to encourage long-term holding rather than short-term selling.

I understand that the original poster receives 75% of the total and curators 25% of the toal.
The problem comes when the following questions arise

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1.) What if my comment makes money? Does the original poster get 50% of my comment money? (original poster being the post creator and not the first commentor)
2.) What happens when I forget to upvote my own comments and they still get upvoted by others?
3.)Are there curation rewards for others?
4.)If person A posts a comment that shows $100, person B replies with a comment that receives $50 and person A replies to that comment and it receives $20 how does the payout system work
5.)Person A makes comment receives $100 and Person B and C respond and both receive $20. Person A gets 50% of person B and C's comments? So person A gets $100 and $10 each from B and C? Do B and C receive half the posted dollar value or the whole number (being $20 each)
6.)Person A posts first and receives $100. Person B replies and receives $50. Person A then responds and gets $25 dollars. Is it advantageous to upvote the comment nested in person B's?
7.)When should you upvote your own comment?

These are a few of the questions I would love to have answered (also to have a much longer view of previous comment and replies instead of the 25 or so most recent. That can kill a conversation when people don't realize that they have a reply to a comment they made a while ago).

Anyone who can answer these questions will gladly be rewarded with an upvote. This one aspect boggles my mind in a way that nothing else on steemit does.

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Is there a relation between the reputation of who makes the comments and how much the article earns?

do you mean with reputation steem power? Steem power is only relevant if you upvote your comment.
to the article rewards, as said currently 25% of the article reward is distributed on the comments.

Maybe this is a dumb question, but... here it goes: sometimes a post has 1 vote and already earned some money (let's say, $0.50). Other times, the post has 6 votes and $0.00. What explains this?

lol, it explains, that in steem one vote is not one vote :)
The payout depends on the steempower the voter has.
also the payout is exponentially not linear. so post with a lot of steempower voted on it get lot more. This is to hinder self voting.

the payout of comments has changed since the whitepaper.
as far as i can remember the parent reward is canceled.
also 25% of the blog reward is now distributed to the comments.

So does that mean curators and commenters split the 25%? So when my comment says $100 next to it do I receive $25? And does it even matter if I upvote it then if that is the case?

if your comment says $100 you get 100$ :) Curators is a different story. Of course your upvote also counts for your own comment.

upvoting your own content is only recommended to do if you think that your comment does really enrich the conversion. upvoting your comment brings it more up and makes it more visible.

Is this because if you upvote a lot of content you "spend" you steempower? Or why shouldn't you always vote on your comments/articleS?

yes and no. Yes if you upvote a lot, your steem power voting power goes down. You can look here if you want to see your current voting power percent: https://steemstats.com/
For example my voting power is now depleted to 70%
But currently you can vote a lot before it goes significantly down. By the way it needs round about 5 days to regenerate. So yes, your voting power goes down if you write a lot of comments and upvote them all, but as long as you dont write a lot of comments this should not matter much. But so or so because of the exponential payout for posts you only get some significant steem / dollars if also others vote for it. So there is no reason to upvote trivial comments. Therefore i would only upvote comments that either have the chance to get more votes, or you want them to be more visible / displayed in the top.

You know the one thing I would really appreciate?

A LACK of focusing on money when it impedes social functionality.

Like, LOCKING A POST AFTER IT'S HIT "payout".
Pissing me the fuck off...

I guess I am not quite sure the point you are making. Can you use an example so I can understand better?

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