Behind Steemit #3 - Voting Circles and Discrepancies between Steemit and the Blockchain

in #steemit7 years ago

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In this project we will not accuse anyone, we will only show the information that goes unnoticed by the common user, and even, for the whales.

Report nº3

Users involved
@adm, @alittle, @alot, @aload, @abunch, @abit, @afew, @apinch, @aton, @aspray, @adash, @apuff, @apiece, @adeal, @ahint, @atip, @adrop

Here we start with a voting circle, what is it about? It is simply a circle of accounts with a lot of SP that benefit from each other and control a small (big) piece of the cake by deciding on their cravings who receives or not a vote from them. Also, self-voting.

Let's start with @alittle

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Here's where I start to doubt a little. Leaving aside the transfers of the voting circle (hmm), I could glimpse that the transfers made to Bittrex do not have their respective memo.

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But i does appear on SteemD, weird, huh?

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Now, where's the proof of that sort-of called "voting circle"? Well...

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And @alittle is just one of the 17 accounts that @abit has (or that we know about)

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Now, here comes the tricky part...

Let's checkout his account

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It seems that his last reply was 7 days ago (At the time i made this research)

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But the blockchain was telling me a total different story

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Replies from even SECONDS, non-stop

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How is it possible that Steemit does not show what the blockchain does? Where is the freedom of speech and the freedom to be in a decentralized system? We all should be free to see whatever we want in this platform. The next few days we'll will bring even more info, this is just the intro.

We have even more cases of VOTING CIRCLES that we will be posting here. EVEN more cases of discrepancies between the blockchain and Steemit. Stay tune.

  • This is just the top of the iceberg, we have tons of information that we will we posting eventually. Hope you guys can support us to make a more clean and transparent community.

LET'S UNVEIL THE TRUTH

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@abit is one of the most well respected members on Steemit and has contributed to steem more than almost anyone you can find.

Those comments you see are done for a technical reason on the blockchain, I forget exactly, something to do with bandwidth, and is being done in a positive way, to help us and the blockchain.

Its great work you are doing, but abit is not a spammer..lol he is a hard worker and helps steem

Edit: self upvoted for exposure

Not actually triying to acuse him of anything as the intro of our posts say, just throwing the info out so everybody can come to their own conclusions.

Also, the thing is, we actually didn't know this, we just get some really strange evidence and post it on here so anybody can say what they want and discuss about the topic, even the accounts tagged can participate if they want, i know what @abit has done and i respect him for that, we are just revealing the information that goes unnoticed by the regular user.

Really interesting that condenser isn't showing all of the transactions that are occurring on the blockchain in regards to replies. I'm really curious about how that is happening.

Steemit is mostly bots, with a few unsuspecting humans in the mix.

I'd love to be proven wrong, but the veil has been lifted and I suspect this to be true.

Between yourself and @paulag, the picture it is painting is not optimistic.

Its more like automation gone rogue, rings of bots commenting to each other, spamming one-liner throwaway "Good post like pictures" among other canned replies.

There's been theories about unfettered automation taking over the world through nanomachinery (the "grey goo" scenario), what we have here is the Goo-ification of social media platforms.

It needs to be addressed, or the whole endeavor is doomed.

not doomed at all, I have started a series of steemit good news stories because I would also like to show the positive side of steemit, you should check out the first one I did the other day :-)

How is it possible that Steemit does not show what the blockchain does?

here is where you get the wrong idea.

Steemit, inc is a company, they need to follow laws, DMCA and can generally decide what to show or not.

Steem, the blockchain, is decentralized. The only way to get a truly uncensored version is to download the full blockchain and run a front-end locally

We're actually going to go in that subject in the next posts -one of the reasons why Dan left Steemit and tried to change a line on the Steemit AGPL license to get a fully and "uncensored" version of the Steem blockchain-. Thing is, the common user can't visualize all this info, can't possibly know if he/she it's getting robbed or tricked by anything because of the lack of knowledge.

Is like saying that anybody can see a result from an equation if they solve it but... they don't know maths. You can give them the formulas but they won't be able to know what to do with them. I hope you get me.

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and you can't run a node/download the full chain? perhaps I'm missing something here

You can, what we're trying to say is that the regular usar doesn't have the technical skills to do this (and do a query on the chain) and all the info we present goes over their heads.

  • On a side note, we are also investigating some issues with the Steem blockchain if you are interested on that too.

Steem is basically dependent on Steem Inc. Steem isn't universal, it doesn't belong to it's users. If Steem Inc closes, others would be able to fix minor bugs, but would not have permission to do anything major (for example... a hardfork)

They’ve entirely open sourced the Steemit.com source code, but the Steem blockchain remains under the control of Steemit Inc.

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I'm following along to see what juicy bits of information you may uncover. I imagine digging through and sorting blockchain data is not a fun task.

On a side note: If I'm not mistaken, using # in front of your memo makes it private from the Steemit UI, just as a way to hide the message from general view. But of course, it would still be recorded and visible in the chain for those who know how to find it or other sites using the chain data that don't apply the # rule to their UI. So that in itself is not always a sign of wrong-doing, but could be used as a low level mask for general users who don't know any better.

That's totally true but, as you say, it's being hided to the general public. Why would be the reason you would hide almost 500k worth of Steem to the regular user? Starting with the fact that -hypothetically-
you were in a 50k voting circle. I think that is only a piece in this weird-ass puzzle.

That is true - technically there is NO reason to hide memos considering it's all on the chain as a record. Bring on some more puzzle pieces :-)

So that is where all the money is going...

"We have even more cases of VOTING CIRCLES that we will be posting here. EVEN more cases of discrepancies between the blockchain and Steemit. Stay tune." Standing by for more news of the manipulation of this technology. I find it very interesting to say the least.

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would you believe I have also been looking at these accounts and the data behind them, but I have not published any of it yet!

I have resteemed this post. the time and effort that is going into these posts and analysis I appreciate, as I know how long it takes

steem on!

Thank you so much, @paulag, i looked up your post and they're truly amazing, can't wait for the next one.

Steem on!

Huh.
You can see some original comments from that date.

However, trying to view them takes you to a url like
https://abit/test#@abit/re-abit-test-20170719t102724533z
and
https://abit/test#@abit/re-test-re-test-half-1

which is of course not accessible.

However if you go to
https://steemd.com/tag/@abit/re-abit-test-20170719t102724533z

You can see more info.

Might this have something to do with the fact that it's has null tag?

And if you watch carefully, he got some comments with 1$ payout. Who knows if there are more of this type but with hundreds of sbd/steem?. I tried the null tag before and didn't do the same thing.

Nice information, thanks

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Dammit so much dodgy behavior getting unraveled recently. This is good for the platform overall as it may lead to corrections, but all this should really be cleaned up by now. It's nearly xmass for goodness sake.

Plus 2018 is meant to be big. This is what they tell us anyway. I am divided on the thought of the future of steemit and on the possibility of steem as as worthwhile crypto to invest in.

Diversification!