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RE: downvoting from anyone that reduces payout because they think the post isn't deserving is wrong

in #steemit • 9 years ago (edited)

Yes, I agree, we need to rename flagging with DOWNVOTE, remove the ridiculous invented as we go along list of reasons immediately, and instead of dressing up downvote as a flag, a purely cosmetic thing that creates confusion, we need to explore ways to deal with flagging itself, how do we go about as a community? Can we have another value added to the blockchain that won't affect payout but only visibility? I don't believe that by enacting admins, or by creating the ever problematic scenarios of figures of authority, rule makers and enforcers and ultimate arbiters, we will ever resolve it in a system centered around decentralization, the power needs to be in the hands of users everywhere. Maybe make the visibility mark equal across the board so that anybody as the power to hide content from the community and even if they can abuse it we will need to deal with the abuse in turn instead of running away screaming "it only creates more problems" because visibility can and should be countered by everyone else other than the author.

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     9 years ago  

    Indeed, I am for removing flagging from everyone by default, and only allowing it for active users who are part of the community, and then we all have the ability to deal with abuse. Then sock puppet accounts can't just have SP and go flagging. AND the flagging won't be base don SP, just like the upvotes won't be. Everyone will have equal ability to influence content and be driven by the community. STEEM and SP is investment to earn as the value grows, your investment grows. And the community is what grows it. SO why would a concentrated group of people be in charge of what the community can or can't do if the community are actually the one's who grow the community and the content? Concentration of power needs to go! Thanks for the feedback.

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    "To build a system of decentralized governance all people must have some direct control over the allocation of public resources, the editing of laws, and the rendering of opinion. Furthermore, all people must take a risk of loss with every act of governance they take. Without the risk of loss no true measurement of value can be made and no opinion can be trusted. You cannot even trust your own opinion unless you take actions that risk personal loss if your opinion is out of alignment with reality. The greater the risk you are willing to take the stronger your faith in your opinion and the greater your resulting profit or loss will be."

    "It is through the iterative process of taking risks and realizing profit and loss that truth can be distilled from the mass of dissenting opinions. Those who act wisely grow in influence, those who act poorly shrink. Overtime the Darwinian process of survival of the fittest takes over and the aggregate outcome of the governance improves in quality, quantity, and efficiency just like what happens in the free market." Dan Larimer

    The upvotes and downvotes have to be based on SP. This is one of the core tenet Steem is based on. Ultimately what we risk on is our life.

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       9 years ago  

      so if @krnel had simply accepted being flagged to reduce rewards, and kept on blogging without making any drama about it, he/she would have been much better off surviving on steemit, as "those who act poorly shrink" and "those who act wisely grow in influence"

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         9 years ago (edited) 

        First of all I want to make this clear, @krnel is one of my favorite author and one of the person I most identify with and he knows this as I made it clear to him in the past. He's the author I've read the most.

        The situation is a complex one and yes it's true that time could have help. Not everything happen instantaneously. Also nothing is clear as night and day. I understand both sides.

        Ultimately we should strive to uplift and unite. I think we should always consider trying to convince rather than to confront if confrontation can be avoided.

        Also its good to read from you Craig. You should do more written articles.