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RE: Why I Flag ozchartart

in #steemit8 years ago (edited)

Another way to mitigate the effects of the "collusion" would be to upvote more with your accounts. Maybe you can check out my latest nature/photography post and get started there? :)

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I have been up voting more with my accounts and recently started up voting content with @dan. I greatly prefer to reward the good than punish the bad. Unfortunately, game theory requires me to do both or good guys lose.

Understandable. And I'm glad that the accounts are being used for upvoting. In my opinion, the flag wars don't do a whole lot of good, but it's your stake and their stake, so you can all do what you want with it. At some point, however, both sides will need to evaluate whether or not what they are doing is beneficial in the long-run. And I don't mean "beneficial for the platform," because that's something that's not easily measured or measurable.

Wasting voting power on up-voting and down-voting the same content day after day results in nothing but lost potential for both "investing" sides. Surely, an agreement can be reached that doesn't involve perpetual up- and down-voting. I just don't know how such an agreement can be reached. Eventually, one side will just likely give up and move on. If that happens, my posts will still be there waiting for the extra upvoting power. :)

"Wasting vote power" is kind of a misnomer, as the reward pool is still paid out to those posts where there is the greatest consensus for a payout. If there is disagreement on some posts, such as @ozchartart's, other posts (such as yours) gain in value.

I was referring to the voting power of the individual users, as in, the percentage of their power meter. Is that what you're talking about? Maybe I'm misunderstanding you right now.

Replying here to @smooth

I very much agree. The more freely we express ourselves (in this case by votes) the more the system is informed by a wisdom of crowds effect. In fact there is value to just seeing what is controversial, for example in dating sites it has been shown that a high level of disagreement over attractiveness is a better predictor of who gets the most dates than the aggregate score alone.

Yes, I know what you mean. My point is slightly different. Perhaps it is okay or even better that voters who disagree simply express their individual views rather than decide to engage in a 'collusive scheme' to amplify their vote power by both agreeing to not vote.

No one does that on other sites such as reddit; some people upvote and others downvote, resulting in a net score. While vote power isn't limited there (I think; afaik reddit's current scoring is opaque), attention is.

In fact, having both opposing votes present contains useful information; reddit has a "controversial" ranking which shows content getting both up- and down-votes. Given a healthier downvote economy here, such a thing might be equally useful. I know I'd certainly be interested to see where the disagreements lie.

Individually, yes it would probably be better to agree to not vote and save vote power, but I don't see how this helps the system as a whole.

Nesting.

Yes, I know what you mean. My point is slightly different . . . [and so on]

I agree that what while talking things out is great, unless we actually change the system itself this will just keep on going forever.

am I a "good guy"?

No last I checked you were a good girl though.

at least someone is validating my concerns......
Everyone has a little troll inside of them that screams out occasionally.

haha, probably the smoothest comment in this thread!

Well, technically, @smooth's would be the smoothest by default. But I'll take a close second-place smoothness.

Is that from the future? I'm only on Volume 2 right now! How long have I been sleeping?!