it's only "theft" because people have allowed themselves to be brainwashed into believing it and NOT thinking for themselves! ...brainwashed by people who desire to CONTROL who recognizes them for their ideas. This has to do with what every negative emotion stems from: fear. Leads to greed, leads to worry, leads to self-entitlement.
We are all part of 1 mind anyways, so it's not like any idea is strictly that 1 person's blessings. That's their ego...there's no need to spread negativity because one feels entitled :)
Theft is theft. Fantasy is fantasy. Ignorance is ignorance. Enlightenment is enlightenment. Your wishing it were otherwise is a waste of my time. Toodles!
@willymac, you are not listening and you are not thinking.... think about history at a deeper level... look at the sequences step by step.... look at Germany for example
Go into any store and take something without paying. Step outside and wait for the police and they will explain the concept. Taking anything without permission is theft and theft is punishable. Yes, even in Germany after the Nazis took over. Especially then! I can't believe you really think stealing is okay. There are legal, intellectual property laws you may want to Google and read.
It took far more time to and human energy to create what you sell in your store, and it took far more time and human energy to create your STORE --- as compared to thoughts (practically 0 energy) and typing. Typing = cheap.
What kind of ass are you? Typing is cheap, I'll give you that, but thoughts can be the culmination of hours, days or even years of work/study. My writing, for example, relies on the meticulous use or deliberate misuse of the English language. To do that well I had to learn English to a level far beyond average. That involved hard work, not "practically 0 energy."
We're all from the same mind, and that's how I look at it. Therefore, your thoughts aren't valuable until they're shared with others who don't have access to those same thoughts. That's where the work does matter! :D I'm also a proponent for free software (sort of like Steem) and the Linux ecosystem, sooooo that's not being an ass, that's being frank :)
@joeyarnoldvn, help me understand what exactly you are saying by this statement. How are you using the term "communism"? Are you referring to Alla's post? My reply? Plagiarism? Standing against plagiarism?
Sorry if I'm being dense, but I'm not sure what you disagree with.
@lances, I am a philosopher like Stefan Molyneux, and I speak from a theoretical and hypothetical perspective, most of the time, but I make references, applications, illustrations, and I try to connect ideas with situations that people can understand and relate to that is less vague and less abstract. I love abstract but many people allegedly don't. So, I make it a priority to find examples to help teach my religion of philosophy or what have you.
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Within communism, government gets bigger and they begin to tell you what you are and are not allowed to say. Democrats and the left are doing this all over Europe and America more so in 2017, this year, than ever before. They tell you something is hate speech. Sometimes, something is plagiarism and sometimes maybe not. But you need smart enough judges to determine these cases. Both sides can think they're right in some cases. It becomes very difficult at times to facilitate cases. Sometimes, one person can say that the other plagiarized them. But that other person can accuse the first of the same thing. In those cases, it can be very hard to know who stole from who.
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Facebook, Twitter, Google, YouTube, Reddit, and other social network websites will often decide what their rules are and that is fine.
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But they will often say you have the freedom of speech and they allow people from ISIS to say things and then when other people leave a comment about the bad things some terrorists do, then the good people are taken to real jail in real life and their accounts are terminated. In Europe, the new people are coming in each day and they rape and steal and murder. When European citizens talk about it, police take them to jail in many cases. So, long story short, when I talk about communism, I am talking about Facebook, Europe, China, and especially about censorship.
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Plagiarism is bad but sometimes alleged plagiarism becomes censorship because a website or government can say something was stolen and that something was plagiarized and that is sometimes not true. But then people become sheep and zombie Walkers from The Walking Dead and they begin to accept too much and too often and then things get worse so through acceleration, accumulation, and momentum.
Thank you for expanding on the idea. The brevity of the original comment occluded its intention and unfortunately came across troll-ish.
To your further explanation, I would suggest that a missing element as we evaluate the line between plagiarism and censorship is the degree of trust extended to claiming parties. Having reviewed the evidence behind Alla's "allegation" and having done the same for her existing body of work, my conclusion (and admonition to the community) was explicitly to call out the value and benefit to a community of reasonably ensuring content creators are truly the creators of their content. To falsely claim creativity that was not yours is at best disingenuous and at worst a violation of trust, regardless of its "legality".
The strength of Steemit, in this instance, lies in the decentralization of evaluation of trust, which by its nature deters the censorship cited in your commentary.
this is communism and I disagree with this
Not allowing theft is Communism? Are you real?
it's only "theft" because people have allowed themselves to be brainwashed into believing it and NOT thinking for themselves! ...brainwashed by people who desire to CONTROL who recognizes them for their ideas. This has to do with what every negative emotion stems from: fear. Leads to greed, leads to worry, leads to self-entitlement.
We are all part of 1 mind anyways, so it's not like any idea is strictly that 1 person's blessings. That's their ego...there's no need to spread negativity because one feels entitled :)
Theft is theft. Fantasy is fantasy. Ignorance is ignorance. Enlightenment is enlightenment. Your wishing it were otherwise is a waste of my time. Toodles!
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@willymac, you are not listening and you are not thinking.... think about history at a deeper level... look at the sequences step by step.... look at Germany for example
Go into any store and take something without paying. Step outside and wait for the police and they will explain the concept. Taking anything without permission is theft and theft is punishable. Yes, even in Germany after the Nazis took over. Especially then! I can't believe you really think stealing is okay. There are legal, intellectual property laws you may want to Google and read.
@willymac why are you assuming that the reported guy didn't have permission? and I don't see @joeyarnoldvn or @robertgenito saying stealing is okay.
@tarek-h he didnt have permission! have you even read my post? go back and read again!
The Steem protocol gives him permission :\ remember, Steem is also a form of governance. It's a protocol.
It took far more time to and human energy to create what you sell in your store, and it took far more time and human energy to create your STORE --- as compared to thoughts (practically 0 energy) and typing. Typing = cheap.
What kind of ass are you? Typing is cheap, I'll give you that, but thoughts can be the culmination of hours, days or even years of work/study. My writing, for example, relies on the meticulous use or deliberate misuse of the English language. To do that well I had to learn English to a level far beyond average. That involved hard work, not "practically 0 energy."
Maybe it's time you worked hard at something.
We're all from the same mind, and that's how I look at it. Therefore, your thoughts aren't valuable until they're shared with others who don't have access to those same thoughts. That's where the work does matter! :D I'm also a proponent for free software (sort of like Steem) and the Linux ecosystem, sooooo that's not being an ass, that's being frank :)
I'm sure your thoughts may well have cost practically zero energy. Didn't mean to offend you. Theft of intellectual property is still theft.
oh don't worry, you did not offend me :) Ask China about intellectual property :D
"this is communism and I disagree with this"
@joeyarnoldvn, help me understand what exactly you are saying by this statement. How are you using the term "communism"? Are you referring to Alla's post? My reply? Plagiarism? Standing against plagiarism?
Sorry if I'm being dense, but I'm not sure what you disagree with.
@lances, I am a philosopher like Stefan Molyneux, and I speak from a theoretical and hypothetical perspective, most of the time, but I make references, applications, illustrations, and I try to connect ideas with situations that people can understand and relate to that is less vague and less abstract. I love abstract but many people allegedly don't. So, I make it a priority to find examples to help teach my religion of philosophy or what have you.
.
Within communism, government gets bigger and they begin to tell you what you are and are not allowed to say. Democrats and the left are doing this all over Europe and America more so in 2017, this year, than ever before. They tell you something is hate speech. Sometimes, something is plagiarism and sometimes maybe not. But you need smart enough judges to determine these cases. Both sides can think they're right in some cases. It becomes very difficult at times to facilitate cases. Sometimes, one person can say that the other plagiarized them. But that other person can accuse the first of the same thing. In those cases, it can be very hard to know who stole from who.
.
Facebook, Twitter, Google, YouTube, Reddit, and other social network websites will often decide what their rules are and that is fine.
.
But they will often say you have the freedom of speech and they allow people from ISIS to say things and then when other people leave a comment about the bad things some terrorists do, then the good people are taken to real jail in real life and their accounts are terminated. In Europe, the new people are coming in each day and they rape and steal and murder. When European citizens talk about it, police take them to jail in many cases. So, long story short, when I talk about communism, I am talking about Facebook, Europe, China, and especially about censorship.
.
Plagiarism is bad but sometimes alleged plagiarism becomes censorship because a website or government can say something was stolen and that something was plagiarized and that is sometimes not true. But then people become sheep and zombie Walkers from The Walking Dead and they begin to accept too much and too often and then things get worse so through acceleration, accumulation, and momentum.
Thank you for expanding on the idea. The brevity of the original comment occluded its intention and unfortunately came across troll-ish.
To your further explanation, I would suggest that a missing element as we evaluate the line between plagiarism and censorship is the degree of trust extended to claiming parties. Having reviewed the evidence behind Alla's "allegation" and having done the same for her existing body of work, my conclusion (and admonition to the community) was explicitly to call out the value and benefit to a community of reasonably ensuring content creators are truly the creators of their content. To falsely claim creativity that was not yours is at best disingenuous and at worst a violation of trust, regardless of its "legality".
The strength of Steemit, in this instance, lies in the decentralization of evaluation of trust, which by its nature deters the censorship cited in your commentary.