STEEM SCHOOL EP 4 - REPUTATION AND HOW IT AFFECTS UPVOTES

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Does reputation matter when it comes to upvotes or not? It took me a couple of weeks to understand how my reputation affects my upvotes.

First of all, what is your reputation on Steem? Your reputation on Steem is the small number next to your Steemit username!

You find that number when you click on your posts and take a look at below the title where you see the spot that I marked for you in the picture below.

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You can also see your reputation on your blog page which is always Steemit.com/@YourUsername but to see that, you need to install the app "Steemit more Info" which offers even more than just displaying your reputation.

That app also shows you who voted for you, who you voted or both and same for your mentions. It also displays the current worth of your upvote and the worth of the upvotes that you received on your post a blog history & more!

I highly recommend installing "Steemit More Info" which you can download here: Steemit More Info.

Below is a screenshot of the blog page of my friend @Snook displaying some of the features of "Steemit More Info" which I mentioned above (See how she posts every day!).

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How to Increase Your Reputation Quickly

To increase your reputation you have to receive upvotes, the higher the upvotes on your posts are the faster your reputation will climb. The higher your reputation is the higher the upvotes need to be to reach a higher reputation!

To increase your reputation as fast as possible you have to create very high-quality posts and boost them with bots immediately after you have published them.

Using bots to boost low-quality trash posts will get you a lot of enemies & hopefully you feel guilty about it!

With bots, you can boost your hopefully high-quality posts into trending and even make a good profit out of that investment.

You make more cash, get more followers and hopefully, the big guys here on Steem don't hate you for boosting that post, it is the highest priority to only boost the best posts otherwise the gods of cash will punish you for that.

I will write a post on how to use bots in the future, writing about that subject here would distract from the topic, till then you can educate yourself here with the help of @JerryBanfield his post about bots: Boosting Posts With Bots

You can only see your reputation increase by 1,2,3 and so forth but not by 0,1 or 0,5. Luckily a smart man called @penguinpablo created a website where you can check your reputation progress & more.

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Does Reputation Matter Much?

Short answer: No. Long answer: Reputation does not really much because the option to boost your hopefully nice butt into Steem Olympia exists.

Reputation reflects how much cash in the form of upvotes you have received and because of the boosting option that number does not reflect your efforts that much.

There are people out there with reputations 60-70 who produce worst kind of content that I have ever seen. They post a picture with 1 sentence below it and call that a "post".

Since I have reputation 60 I also don't see an increase in the worth of upvotes that I receive. It really depends on the quality of your posts & the information it.

My bests posts in terms of upvotes are about subjects that are helpful for Steemians, perfectly formatted and about subjects that almost nobody covered.

Take a look at this post of @TheRightSideOfUp Click here to open it which received $20.

Now you say to yourself that it ain't much but for a guy that joined Steemit last month it really is. That man has written about a topic that almost nobody writes about (His war experience) which is described in good detail.

He has written 1600 words, wrote about a rare but highly interesting topic which is useful to almost everyone who has served in the army because he also offers advice in his post. That seems to be the winning formula!

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Conclusion

Reputation does not matter much. What matters is the information you deliver, what you write about, and how often it was already covered, of course, there are other things that are important as well but in my experience, your reputation plays no important role in that.

There are plenty authors with high reputations that only post shit. Don't be one of those guys and girls.

That's it for today's Steem School episode. Have a nice day ladies, gentlemen & savages!

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The tool does not seem to be working for me...
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But your thoughts on reputation are quite right. I think people are drawn towards reputation when new and increasingly towards high SP as they start to understand how Steemit really works.

You just have to reload the page or go to 'replies' for example and then go back to blog. Sometimes it doesn't work at all though.

Good tip & same experience.

yeah, figured that out... thank u

You already installed it... good job!

The blog histogram doesn't load sometimes, but the other features are reliable (they lag sometimes tho).

That really sucks sometimes, especially when you want to make a screenshot of it for your blog post!

Yeah, that histogram is not the only feature... There are other very neat and useful features as well

In a way I do agree with you that reputation means squat if the person just writes shitty posts but having a high number would often make a person pause and check the content of the person and if it will be worth the time to comment and possibly get an upvote and a follower if the comment was very good.

Once the person realize that it's a golden shit post talking about marvel and 80 % of the comments are bid bot comments of confirmation from the 5-6 bots he would use on one post. Then you see 5 more similiar post and same MO done the same day and you leave in disgust and never follow check teh person again because you know it's just a placeholder post.
Reputation is indeed climbing up high but the respect the person gets in the community is almost none and zero engagement on posts. Tis just a reputation and money grab.

In a way content is still King and engagement an important part of the growth. Reputation may get a person to try to engage but afterwards it will be up to the skill of the person to turn that to a follower and in turn make them an engagers.

I agree don't be a golden shitposter.

Very well said Maverick, as usual, you write very good comments.

More people look at our posts based on our reputation but that doesn't guarantee upvotes, in fact, you risk losing cash and you ruin your reputation here on Steem (not the number) by writing shit.

In other words, I agree with your statement.

I'm loving the Steemit education course, there's always some nugget of gold in each post. Sometimes more.

Another good tool for checking reputation, voting power, votes, comments and the like is steemworld.org. Granted you do need to have it open in another tab, but it has a wealth of information in there.

I do think reputation has an indirect benefit in as much as others may be more likely to at least check out your post if you have a higher reputation. The post still needs to be of high quality to make that tendency worth anything. If you're posting garbage the higher click-through will just serve to wreck your efforts at creating a tribe, and could even lead to some of you followers leaving you.

So, I agree with you - don't worry about your reputation, but instead focus on posting high quality content if you want to grow on Steemit.

Very good comment.

I like your style. I am waiting your post how to use the bots to promote your post. Of course @jerryBanfield is a legend , but his posts are sooooooooooo long to the degree I am bored to lose my focus or even interest and not able sometimes to complete his video , tell myself I will later. However, I like videos which give the info in a “nutshell” like yours and boxmining ... just my opinion . Also it maybe funny to think ( human vs bots) : if bots in the future become so smart to write high quality posts on their own 😃😂

Cheers 🥂

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That is very valuable feedback for me Josteem!

Thank you!

By the way, i don’t Know if it matters or not ( How much percent of My vote I give to a post, will influence My curatorn, if the post becomes trending?) i.e if My vote worth 1 $ and does it make a difference to give 10%, 50% or 100% of My vote when it come to curationion rewards , if this post becomes hot or trending? I appreciate if you have an answer based on your reasearch

Curation is very difficult to explain, check out this post for more information about the subject: https://steemit.com/steemit/@albertvhons/calculating-steemit-potential-rewards

Keep up and sure you will 🚀 soon

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yes reputation doesn't really matter much, but to an extent it gets you attention, it's easier to for 70 to attract your attention than a 35 or so.
it's much easier to read an article written by someone with a 70 reputation than someone with a 40.
Maybe it is not that much, but reputation can get a lot of people to check out what you write. Maybe that's when they find out whether you write sense or crap, but at least they had checked out your content.
Yes you are right, it's not much but it can a difference.

True... psychology.

However, as a newcomer, I always value the 'underdogs'. Same with publishing, I tend to read authors who are self-published. True, a lot of the 'noobies' have lots of crap, but there are others with real high-quality content (or at least, to what I like). So I tend to try and encourage and read others.

I agree as well, seeing newbies climb through godlike effort is a nice thing to see!

Maybe it is not that much, but reputation can get a lot of people to check out what you write. Maybe that's when they find out whether you write sense or crap, but at least they had checked out your content.

100% agree

Gotta get to reputation 70 asap!

First of all @valorforfreedom thank you for this. Indeed this is a school and I am leaening every thing I can as possible. Indeed your facts here have spoken well of themself.

Just 8days old here I have been I have been able to build a reputation of 38 and won myself 0.200 steem and other benefits from the biggies in the community.

Right now i must let yoh know that your blog and and it content is my roadmap to get to that exact point you are now.

Thank you, thank you, thank you @valorforfreedom for this wonderful piece.

I am me @brightfame

Thank you Brightfame.

I completely agree with the comment you have made in regards to the quality of posting. I confess my posts are far from perfect something this year I should strive to better myself at but I read many things about tags and effectively using them, In your opinion do you think this is true, or is the following and connecting through curation a natural evolvement in the steemit journey.
Of course if you think tags are important and how to use them, I would love to watch you do a video about them??

Choosing the right tags is important, I create a video+post about it soon.
Following increases with the quality of your posts and how often you are in trending.

Thanks for this info, lots of useful information.
I do hope though that bots will play a far smaller role in the future regarding payouts and reputation score.

I'm a very big fan of curation, and it's pretty hard to help somebody's good post get noticed when others are paying for bots and or self-voting. I don't mind that people selfvote and pay for bots, it just shouldn't be possible to buy you way to the trending and hot list. It should be a matter of people finding the good stuff and helping it get noticed.
And maybe for that reputation could play a bigger part, so we could have more superstar curators, a bit like spotify I guess.
Anyway, thanks for the read.

I don't mind that people selfvote and pay for bots, it just shouldn't be possible to buy you way to the trending and hot list.

I absolutely agree that it shouldn't be like that.

Thanks for taking the time and explaining reputation the way you did. You really cleared up some points for me. Although I do feel reputation gives you an edge in terms of having people check out your content, giving upvotes, and following you. Overall great post and like always MUCH LOVE and RESPECT! #BlessUP

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You don’t need people to verify you the best. Being the best comes from the heart.

This is really helpful for newbie.I was quite confused and researched so much to understand about reputation.Well explained

Thank you Laxmika!

This helps. I look forward to going through your page and finding more. I would like to know how to use the bots. My goal was to try STEEMIT without bot for 30 days. Try them for 30 days and then compare. I know it will be night and day but I am doing it for the research. Any tips?

I am actually doing the same thing at the moment.
I have the results next week.

Check this post out on how to use bots: https://steemit.com/steem/@jerrybanfield/boost-posts-on-steem-with-upvote-bots

Thank you. I will track your progress and check out this post. I just got about 30 ppl into steemit that are following my lead. I will have them look you up as well so they can get all the great info you have to offer as your make the journey a few months in time ahead of us!

That would be very nice!
I will soon have an archive ready for all episodes!

I believe that the Rep Score is based on a logarithmic curve. So the climb gets harder as the rep score increases. I have been experiencing considerable anxiety with my rep score lately.

I have avoided using autobots to 'artificially' inflate my upvotes and earnings - fearful of an eventual 'Google Slap' type reprimand from either Steem Inc or some trigger happy whales.

Although it may not really affect much on Steemit, it is still an aspirational score to keep track of one's progress on this platform. Thank you for another inspirational post from you!

Yes it gets harder with higher reputations. One has to be careful about bot use and in general, do not piss of the wrong person.

Thanks for this enlightenment on reputation because alot have really wondered how it works but what i dont get is that with quality post you have to make,what if you dont have much followers to take a look and actually after reading it give you a good upvote are not available and we all know when you are a newbies you need quality people on steemit to get you up through upvote,so what do you say abou that. Because u have experienced it alot when i give good quality post but followers who can give me that upvote ain't there,its just my fellow newbies too whi wana grow. So i think answers would be appreciated. Thanks

I started with 0 followers and 0 investments here on Steem.

I write 2 high-quality posts every day for over 3 months now.

In the first 2 months, I barely made cash & I barely had followers.

You have to put in the work before people see the value of you.

Thanks alot for your encouragement because i was already losing it. I get i have to restructure and be unique. But which is beneficial when someone is a newbie on steemit,making your own quality post or making good comment on peoples' post?

Choose 10 people that you follow and comment on their posts every day.
Besides that, I recommend to write 1-2 posts per day & learning more about Steem 10 minutes per day.

Never quit doing that and soon you will see your reputation grow!

Alright. Thanks alot i appreciate your hint.

Thank you very much. I find this information very useful as I have always been wondering what reputation Steemit really mean. Also thanks for the advice on using bots. It seems I have been using them the wrong way.

Glad that it helped you Riovanes!

I am sure this post is very helpful for lot of newbies out there. Very good guidance bro, thanks i leaned one point that bots should be used only on good content to get followers and nice upvotes. :-)

Thank you! As I am new to Steemit, it is not that easy to understand, how the system works.

Good to know, that the actual content counts more than just beeing around here for a long time.

Warm regards from Berlin (Germany),

Sebastian

Yes, content matters much more than your reputation!

Schöne Grüße aus Köln!

Ohhh. You are german too. Nice to meet you here.

Thanks for this informative post, @valorforfreedom! I've been lurking for the longest on steemit, and I've been an​ active member since August 2017. Most of my content is photographs since I am a hobbyist photographer. Some of my posts have been just a photo with a blurb but others I do put in more effort and time. Since I've been on steemit posting, I have learned to be more creative and have picked up a couple of new hobbies of painting and drawing to go with my photography. It's new, and a slow work in progress but I think sometimes people's content quality goes up with their experience and reputation. I look forward to your next post on making lasting friendships here on steemit.​

Thank you Ozhiya.

If I was you I would at least add 200 words for every photograph that you upload, like that you will easily stand out from the crowd!

Thanks for your suggestion and you're rather​ right! I've been working on adding more wording to my posts. ​I think it's a combination of things that add to post quality, rep, the ​frequency of posts and if the person is social or not (replying to comments and votes).

The quality of your post, the information itself, how often it was covered, the formatting, your reputation, your thumbnail, the first sentence and the amount of followers all play a role.

There are even more factors than that.

I like your post style and your writing is understable and its the best part of your post. Im waiting for your next post of how to use upvote bots. Sincierly your post help me a lot.

Glad to hear Raihan.

I got to the 40 rep in my first 7 days here. After this, it started to slow down but I guess it really doesn't even matter.

Waiting for the bot tutorial post because I have been wondering how do they work :)

I will write about it soon!

Nice! Thank you

As always, well done sir. I really get a lot out informative and valuable information out of your posts and look forward to the next. Keep up the great work!

Thank you LF.

At first, I really got curious about the no. Beside our username then I had to research about it and found out that it was our Reputation. This is such a good help for us newbie. Thank you!

Enjoy!

Yes I will. Thank you!

Hey :) thanks for your post. I installed the app and looking forward to use it. Very interesting information for my. I am new on steem it and still discovering all the rules and features. So for me its very helpful to read more about how to get into this steemthing :)
Best wishes
Ann

Thanks for this.
I used to get confused when I see an account with high steem power but low reputation

Same here.

The good ol' newbie days.

Started from the bottom now you’re here

Funny!

Thanks for the upvotes 🙏

I think your article is amazing so I couldn't resist to resteem great work thanks for the explanations

Reputation does matter, people easily get attracted to higher rep people cz they know they can earn something via comments. Now days on steemit nobody even bothered to check low rep people's posts. good post though @valorforfreedom .

I agree Vnyrox, but the people that vote based on your reputation are new on Steem, you can not determine the value of a post by reputation alone and people with experience here on Steem know that.

And you are wrong when you say they don't read your post because of low reputation. If I see something of my interest I won't care about reputation because I know that a high reputation does not display how much life experience you have.

hmm maybe Vynrox does have a point. Some people will definitely try to comment on posts with high-rep so that if their comments get upvoted by the post author, they get higher earnings than a comment upvote by someone with 25 reputation.

That is true, but you only get those high upvotes by writing high-quality comments (which almost nobody does).

I have to mute 1/4 of the commenters and the other 1/4 barely write a sentence the other 1/4 is trying but failing and the other 1/4 write slightly above average comments.

Yeah, that is totally true. I haven't had much experience of being commented upon, but I do see a lot of spam comments "thank you! i like this" and super dry comments.

Indeed, super annoying.

Yeah if everyone thinks like you steemit will change for good :) @valorforfreedom

Thank you Vnyrox.

This post really makes you think. I personally believe that reputation is quite important because If we Are going to be honest,a lot more people will come and see your content If you have a higher Number beside your name

That is true, but it doesn't promise high upvotes.

Thanks for the information! I really appreciate the info on Steemit More Info. This is an excellent tool and never knew about it until coming across this post. I'm still new to all this and continually find more and more valuable information from fellow steemians, such as yourself @valorforfreedom!

Thanks for this info, I am a newbie I have learned a lot from your post @valorforfreedom.

I like your style. I am waiting your post how to use the bots to promote your post.

I will write about it in the future!

@valorforfreedom very nice article. To add on reputation score just like mention esteem app also shows you the reputation in .1.2.3..till it reaches to 10 and the score.

Thank you for the info Steemflow.

Thanks @valorforfreedom i will apply ypur suggestion of voting on the soon on the post. Let see.never tried this technique....will need to give my luck 😀

Thanks dear nice post and good work for new one lkeep it up thanks I follow you.

Thank Cristitaylor.

Being new here, posts like this are incredibly insightful! Thanks for sharing and looking forward to the next one.

Welcome to Steem!

@valorforfreedom I'm really impressed with your blog, every post seems to be filled with useful information.

I especially like this post, there are some things I didnt think about, so thanks a lot man.

Thank you Tesla.

Very helpful for me a newbie.thanks

I'd try to upgrade the audio - it's a bit irritating

I have indeed edited it because the music from my headphones was too loud.
You have good ears.

Nice post esp. for newbies like me. Thanks!

Tomorrow's episode is about creating long-lasting friendships here on Steem and beyond!

i love this post pleas i need an upvote from u thanks
https://steemit.com/@musicrush

i beg to differ reputation matters, i have seen people following guys with higher reputation those with low reputation, especially minnow believe the higher you are in the food chain the better and have higher voting power so you would see people with low reputation having fewer votes and followers compared with someone with less than 55 reputation, look at the trending and hot post are never from people with low reputation , even their shit post have high votes and comments

i think reputation is great fact.....
thank's for sharing

Very nic .I liked your posts very much,i request you kindly when you free then visit my blog.

yes reputation affctes upvote @miner76

Awesome information as always, and if Chuck Norris approves we know it's good!

I guess reputation score still has some effect psychologically. I normally think that those people with good reputation score "must" be posting worth it posts. I know it's not the case all the time but I still upvote them :)

reputation really matters a lot in life...one needs to keep his/her reputation for not tanishing their image.

https://steemit.com/steemit/@yousuph24/steemit-my-best-social-platform

Nice right up....inspiring

Very intriguing and compelling information. Be sure to follow me for cryptocurrency tips, updates and information! :)

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