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RE: The return of the @appreciator bid-bot

in #steem6 years ago (edited)

If freedom delegates to a big bidbot, it means that smartsteem have not the capacity to pay him as much as he wants.
The biggest bidbots and voting services tend to yield losses to their customers (the bidders/vote buyers) especially when considering curation rewards.
I also feel that the upper and lower boundaries on ROI are false advertisement and the way that they are measured is skewed against the customers.

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@stimialiti yes, upper and lower boundaries on ROI are tricky. I always do my own calculations before using bid-bots. These services can yield gains to users - I mean, you can make money using bit-bots - but it takes a lot of time and effort to get it right.

I grew a lot thanks to certain bidbots.
My most urgent question about HF20 is:
Will its reward calculation be retroactive?
For example, will 98% of the vote that you just gave me will return to the reward pool if HF20 will be enacted within 6 days, 23 hours and 51 minutes from now?
And BTW, look at this:
abandi / best-strategy / steem-network / lucky-robin /
https://steemd.com/tx/adda0f696822eab45a5bfbbafc8e6539030e7ceb
https://steemd.com/tx/c9b79de7200ea8803e150c4c2974ddfcfe651201
https://steemd.com/tx/33c157793219640c533a3d4078ea0647886757e0

This is how much a spammer and plagiarizer can grow, with almost every preminer, witness and self proclaimed spam adversary ignoring my comments about it.

I don't think so, but I not sure about it. What I know is that I will probably change my upvote behavior in response to the HF20.

@verodato your 4000 SP delegation to me should have expired 2 days ago and yet I still have it

I don't know how that is possible?

Thanks for warning! That is my fault, not minnowbooster`s (see image below). I somehow forgot to cancel the delegation. Just did it now.
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I guess I don't get any bonus points for fair play other than the two extra days and an upvote. 😄

Thanks for the delegation though. I think I used it for something that might pay off down the road. Maybe I'll do a post about it.

Oh, @direwolf ! Now you've got a friend... There's no higher bonus in the world!

I already changed my.
I used to wait until one of the better bidbots would near 100% prior to posting anything, and it was better than self votes.
In fact, this behavior did not allow me the time to self vote in the current steemit interface, and it seems that busy.org too lacks immediate self votes on comments.

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@verodato yes, but it's too risky

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@stimialiti

If freedom delegates to a big bidbot, it means that smartsteem have not the capacity to pay him as much as he wants.

I don't think so. My personal guess is that freedom delegates to other bid-bots as those rely on few big-delegations in contrast to Smartsteem, which has nearly the same SP with hundreds of unique delegators.

But honestly, someone with 7 million SP is prob. rationalizing a lot different than you and me ;)

I meant that you have not the capacity or the need to give him the return that he wants on all of his STEEM.
Since you are in a commenting mood, do you pay to clvr to fight spam?
If freedom used only a tiny bit of his stake to fight spam, the value of all of his stake would have been worth more.

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