Man, is hard to take place on this, i cant really say that im full on @berniesanders path, or @haejin one.
I think haejin could help and do his best for this community, instead of just enjoy the pool reward, but at the same time, i think him has the chance to enjoy it like any one does, so..
I know in the long term, this could not be good for any one of us but well, what can we do more than just try to stop him like bernie does? And trying to stop him, will be worth? What makes you think, him will stop?
Plus all this fights, is another reason for him, to keep enjoying the reward pool, instead of stop with the abuse. So i don't really think, fighting will solve anything, at all.
I think, pleasant like me, and some others, just come here for the popcorn. I don't think we can do much more right now, but yeah, someone should try to solve things, and put some light on this community.
So yeah bernie, i think u don't have much more to lose right now, and if things goes as you said, for sure you and all of us, has something to win.
At least, looks like that.
Meanwhile ..
Take a breath of fresh air with Claptone:
It's only possible for Whales and Witnesses to check haejin's reputation (nearly 80) at this point in time. It is simply not going to effect him if you have less than $100k in Steem Power.
The fact of the matter is this: many whales do exactly the same thing on SteemIt as haejin does. However, it is beneficial for them to attack haejin, thereby taking attention off of their own self-voting activities. It's really a whole bunch of crap that minnows really need not concern themselves with. I'm under no illusions that my 100 SP is going to have any impact on what is going on here. Simply put, just one larger whale will have to take a break from their own rampant, self-interested activities and slap down haejin - which they could easily do. However, they won't do that - because it would then draw everyone's attention to their own activities, which are nearly identical to haejin's.
This is nothing but a big whale circle-jerk, and minnows would do well to steer clear - they are extremely likely to be smashed into oblivion for simply speaking their mind.
I don't understand, why doesn't this whale-war concern everybody? Aren't they be definition taking % of the reward pool that is supposed to be going to the community not into their own pockets?
Well, here is the simple version: even on SteemIt, it takes a whole lot of money if you want to make a whole lot of money. About 2/3rds of the total coins are still held in the hands of a few of the founders' accounts. No matter what anyone does, they can immediately change everything - if they so choose.
You CAN make money here but, unless you have a ton of money that you use for self-upvoting, you're probably not going to make much here as a writer/blogger/vlogger. Unless you are, or you become, a very good and talented writer - in which case you'll possibly be able to make enough money to live on - but only if that is what you want to dedicate your life and all of your time to doing, AND you dedicate a lot of effort to developing and interacting with your followers, AND you do this for a long time, starting out with little to no rewards for your efforts.
Do not let that discourage you, however. Just know that like anything in life, you have to work hard to get ahead. That takes time. People are not just going to drop free money in your lap, just because they have a lot of it.
Use SteemIt as a place to learn about money. Learn about trading, digital assets, how to set up wallets, how to do Technical Analysis, how to do Macro Analysis, etc. You can even trade tons of Steem coins and make a profit - but "powering up" locks up your money for 13 weeks. If you bought Steem at $1, t sucks to see Steem go up to $4 only to realize that it will take you 13 weeks to power down - and who knows where the price of Steem will be then? It might be $8, or it might be 75 cents.
Brilliant comment Sir, very aptly explained.
I just want to point out to you @bi5h0p, that your self vote, if no one else gives you a vote is going to be dusted off. Any vote total that does not rise to the $0.020 level will be dusted, meaning that it just goes poof. No rewards, no curations, no nothing. So hope someone comes along and provides you a second vote. You vote would have been better spent on the post than on yourself.
Well then, by all means, let me vote for you and hope for the same. There's nothing harder on SteemIt than being a self-appointed, self-upvoter policeman. It's a good thing we have guys like you around here to keep track of everyone else's money for them. Thanks, and keep up the good work! :D
I think you miss understood, I am the last one to tell anyone how to vote, I was just trying to let you know that it was a wasted vote if no one else votes for your comment. You are not going to receive anything for your vote, and unless you are using a vote slider of some sort, you only have limited amounts of votes to use. You want or most people want their vote to either bring value or to give value, not to see their vote just dusted off into oblivion. I am sorry you took it the other way as a criticism, it was not. However until your vote can give you a lift why just watch it burn up. I myself do not upvote myself, but that is because I try to upvote a lot of people, and to help them.
The self vote is a built in system. If it is good for a whale it should be good for everyone, however they set a dut value to the vote value, meaning that unless a post/blog or comment exceeds $0.019 ($0.020), then all the votes casted on that Post/Blog or comment are burned, made into nothing no reward received no reward given, net value of the votes=ZERO. Where as if you vote on a post/blog or a comment that already has exceeded that vote value level you at least may get a little curation reward. Feel free to look at my steemworld.org page here is what you will see ( 0.31 % self, 293 upvotes, 123 accounts, last 7d ) the upvote was an accident on my part and was removed by me.
My comment was meant entirely to educate, granted I am not that great of a teacher, however I never said not to vote for yourself, I was trying to inform you of what was going to happen. I myself knew nothing about the vote dust level until about two weeks ago, how ever since you feel I have "acted like self-appointed, self-upvoter policeman, I will place you on mute so that I never "darken your door with Police type activities again. I do apologize to you for taking my information in the wrong light.
Then if self vote gives nothing its only reasonable for one to open another account and keep voting theirselves by storing all the power there
Until an individuals own vote power equals at least $0.020 vote value, then self voting will give the self voter no reward. They can always hope for another person to come along and upvote their post, but unfortunately there are a lot of post that get no votes. A lot of my early post got no votes. So the best use of a new person's vote is to actually find content they like, leave a vote, and make a real comment, something more than 6 words. But how a person votes is their choice, if they want to make money, they need the information so they can make an informed decision on how best to utilize their vote.
Yeah you are right, liked "how best to use ones vote depends on the person" ... Curating is just the best way to use it
Taking my casual, sarcastic remarks as a personal insult would be a mistake. I was on a bit of a rant and I sincerely apologize for causing offense. I can be a nice guy, as well as an @$$hole - as most of us are able to do. Your point is well taken. However, if you will notice, I did get 2 other votes on that comment, adding up to about 13 cents. It won't take me long to count, but every little bit helps.
To me my opinion is , truth us many other persons on steemit do exactly what @haeijin does, but in different ways aint gonna name names, the only ish i have with haejin is that he writes almost the same thing over and over again and the reason is because he doesnt care about you upvoting him, he has enough power to upvote himself. Most of us saying haejin did this or that are actually guilty of the same crime we are all accusing him off, lets call a spade a spade. I ainy on Anyones side simply because i feel like @berniesanders also has his flaws as reagrds this reward pool ish but all the same it is haejins sp he has ever right to do what he needs to do with it but he should learn to be more generous as his support would be good for the community growth . lastly my mum always thought me that one can never use fire to quench another fire.
There is something i use to say your upvote on someones post can provide a meal on their table, it could make someone stay encouraged and keep staying on steemit. So lets all keep it real, the main idea of steemit is to share love via steem. Lets not forget that.
Well said. Staying focused on promotion of content we think is good, not on behavior we think is bad, seems to be about the best solution to anything on SteemIt we see as a negative situation. I do think flags and downvoting are not always being used properly on this platform, and are not a very effective use of Steem Power, if you are trying to do something positive.