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RE: SMTs Release Dates!

in #steem6 years ago

Hey Tim,

Should you and other top witnesses not setting price feed bias percentages, with a SBD Debt Ratio at 6+% ... there is to much steem being printed.

Or is it that you and the witnesses know this an play dumb? Because at 10% the SBD floor will be gone, and a bail-in is just what you guys want so that users and community be pickpocketed?

Who else is going to pay to bring that 15+ million SBD Debt down? Who is going to burn it?

Looking forward to your answer.

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This is extremely off topic for this thread, but I will reply non-the-less.

I am not planning to use a price feed bias as this time. I am not playing dumb. I am aware of the economics behind SBD and have written quite a few posts about the topic. I also submitted two pull requests to update the SBD economics as part of hardfork 20.

There is little need right now to "burn the debt". The market has demonstrated over the past several months that there has actually been a demand for more SBD. A short-term change in the cryptocurrency markets is not enough to warrant any drastic policy changes.

Even if the debt limit exceeds 10%, that is not the end of the world. The price of SBD has been sustained for a prolonged period without traders even using the conversion function. If conversions are not supported at 1 SBD to $1 worth of STEEM for some time - that does not necessarily mean the market will not be able support the peg based on demand alone.

I'm not really sure what you are referring to as a bail-out. I have heard no such thing being discussed, and it doesn't sound like something I would support.

In terms of the absolute worst case scenario of what could happen, the debt ratio could significantly go past the 10% mark, and the market may see that as too substantial of a risk, and no longer support the peg. At that point the SBD peg would become broken (well, more broken than it already has been, given that it has not really been at a stable $1 USD price for quite some time). The risk here is 100% on SBD holders, and poses little risk for holders of STEEM. This is really more of a "hypothetical what-if" though, and not something I believe has a high probability of happening.

Tim, thank you for your reply,

The bear market has significant downward pressure on steem and also sbd.
Because of this, the market value has dropped also significantly.

This is a new situation because, with 15+ million sbd debt and the market cap in a downward spiral, they will meet each other at 10%. Because we stopped printing sbd's at 5% there is more steem created. Which re-enforce the downward pressure on steem. What we see is that even when steem price is rising, the market cap is still coming down. Price Feed Bias is created as control mechanism to keep stability.

Your proposal to extend the debt ratio from 2-5% to 9-10% is like opening the door for a "Black Swan" event to happen. Before the HF20 we could already be above 10%. Will you put HF20 on hold?

Past performance is no guarantee of future results.

At 10%+ we break the SBD floor, this means sbd will free float and could go to zero. And your mention that only the sbd bagholders will feel the pain? Is just not true, in a scenario like this, steem would go to zero first, followed by the sbd bagholders. Remember, SBD is not being printed, but steem is, more and more. It's like holding a little bird in your fist, and sqeeze all the life out of it.

Then there is only one more thing to do, and that's close the door on our way out.

Based on some of your comments, I don’t know if you fully understand how SBD works.. I’ll try to do a post in the next few days to cover the topic and hopefully your concerns.

It's a problem but I don't see it going to zero. I see it going back to the pennies it was last year which is still pretty bad.

Agreed... but...it can be really really bad, for everyone...

Here is a more useful question. Will interest again be applied to SBD so that people have a reason to hold that? Is there anything which can be done to drive demand for SBD and Steem?

The downward pressure is is a real problem. It makes life harder for everyone including witnesses.

I have no immediate plans to add interest for SBD. I don’t think it is necessary under current conditions.

Generating demand for STEEM and generating demand for SBD are largely unrelated.

As far as increasing demand for STEEM, my most recent post is touching on the subject. The short answer though is that it is everyone’s responsibility.

An interesting question to think about, because many stakeholders think this way - if someone’s content is not generating more demand for STEEM, should it even be getting paid?