these guys all benefit with the circle jerk curation

That's just the thing. They could have at least put curated content (from whatever curation guild) in their ridiculous burn posts to showcase some of the stuff on the chain.

What's gonna happen is when they fall out of use like @steemengineteam, they are just gonna vote farm like it.

The only thing they have right now is that they are initiatives run by top witnesses, and we take their "words" for it.