Coders please comment & advise! My Vision to build and sustain ecovillages using the Steemit Codebase!?

in #steem7 years ago (edited)

Hi Everyone! Today I MAY have had an epiphany. They don’t happen very often, and it’s hard to say if it is the best idea I ever had or not. It’s hard to say because I don’t know enough about the block-chain and the math behind it all to say! That is why I am writing this post, because I  need your advice! If you understand the ins and outs of Steemit and how to make an Alt coin, and also like the idea of off-grid living please do read on!  


Have I stumbled upon a way to FINALLY be able to offer the world an alternative to mortgage enslavement, debt, and the whole package of modern life? Have I found a golden jewel and just need some help to manifest it? Time will tell, and for now this is a very new idea with many details to be ironed out. I have chosen Steemit as the base for this because it SEEMS to work well for this ecoVillage model. This is an ecoVillage idea like no other, because it’s paid for and backed by a cryptocurrency that I will make called ecoVillage Coin. So, how does this work?! Please do read these bullet points. They outline the main concepts of this whole vision and demonstrate a way in which ecoVillages could grow and expand around the world, and in a whole new paradigm! The block-chain may be the answer to the sustainable building and living conundrum! People who want to live and build self-sufficiently generally can’t afford to build, and don’t know how to either! There is SO little eco-building going on in the world, despite great need and great desire. I would love to hear from you if you understand the following  points and the math of Steemit:

- The Back End System

The entire system would be Based On Steemit Open Souce Codebase with some modifications.

- Where Does the Money Come From?

Money for the purchase of land and building will come from Mining ecoVillage coin. The percentage of mining that goes to building would need to be determined. There would be a certain amount of pre-mining that happens to fund the initial build, and the first buyers of the ecoHomes would pay a deposit and would most likely be the main buyers of the ecoVillage coin in the beginning.  I hope to be the first buyer! These building projects would run at very low cost compared to a traditional build, and would utilize volunteers and skilled workers. I am confident I could build at extremely low cost as I have 15 years’ experience and a great network of connections with ecoBuilders. I am currently writing about a $5,000 small Earthship home we built a few years ago!

- Collective Ownership

The ownership of land and property of the ecoVillage will be held by the ecoVillage Trust. This prevents unauthorized re-sale of properties by homeowners. ecoVillage members would have a lifetime lease with their next of kin automatically eligible for the same or smaller home in the event of death.  The house owner is responsible for their ecoVillage account (like Steemit),  and has their private posting key. The master key and active keys are held by the Trust.  

- Rewards For Builders

Those skilled people who volunteer their time to help build will be rewarded with ecoVillage coins. They will also have priority in owning one of the homes when built. 

- Price Stability

The purchase of an ecoHome will be very cheap relative to a normal home. That payment will be made in any cryptocurrency or FIAT and held as ecoVillage Coins. Their buy in amount will be powered up VESTS just like Steem. This means that people are buying in with no risk of loss of their home but with their investment supporting the coin and remaining powered up. This holds the price up and continues the purchasing demand or ecoVillage Coin as this expands.

- Exit Option

In the event of an ecoVillage member wishing to leave or sell their home, the Trust would manage this process. It would involve powering down and the new member would be determined by the Trust. 20% (apx) of any profits of sale would be given to the departing ecoVillage member, with the trust receiving the balance in ecoVillage Coins. 

- Cashless Community Trading

Trade within the community will be done using the ecoVillage coin. It may be done using a dollar pegged coin with a minimum $1 value just like SBD does. That way people can trade and hold the coin with a chance of increasing their value and the ability to sell for other currencies or FIAT on the open market. 

- International Communities Can Be Created

This entire process can replicate itself in new and diverse locations around the world. Once the first ecoVillage is established and proven to work, the same can be done elsewhere, which will further increase the value of the coin due to purchasing of new ecoHomes. 

- An Option To Live Internationally

People will have the option to change ecoVillage if they desire. Once there are villages around the world, people can house swap permanently or even have a ‘free’ holiday. 

- Upvote Rewards For Projects

ecoDollar (SBD) and ecoVillage coin rewards will be given to those people who are deemed to have added value to the community. ecoVillage rewards do not need to be powered up and members may do as they wish with them.  The voting system would work as it does now on Steemit, perhaps with a few tweaks and some more community features. People can post and blog what they are doing, for example they may be making a new biodynamic food production area, or a child play area, and so they can receive community support for their projects very organically. This system is one that would reduce the number of ‘meetings’ that would be needed to form a consensus, and allow for a lot of development to happen quickly and in a very transparent way. This system will empower the community to be proactive and try to do great things, just like on Steemit. This voting power also encourages people to power up since they can have more influence in the ecoVillage. There will be a maximum power allowed by one person!

- Home upgrades are possible without FIAT

ecoVillage members can also move into larger homes as their families expand. EcoVillage members will not need FIAT to upgrade their home but can use their ecoDollar (SBD) savings or their ecoVillage coin rewards. To upgrade, a home a member would increase their vested power (if they haven’t done so already) to cover the amount required. The old home would also be sold to a new home owner. This will therefore increase the support and stability of the ecoVillage coin as this grows.

- No Bills

The ecoHomes that I make will be truly off-grid and self sufficient. There may be some very minimal costs for gas, but things like power, heating, cooling and water will have no monthly bills. This means true security!

- Homes for the Poor

A certain percentage of ecoHomes will be allocated to people with low or no incomes. The exact details will depend upon many factors, with the main concept being a diverse and multi-class as well as multi-cultural village.

OK, that is the basics! These points are mainly focused on making the idea work and not too focused on the details of the community, which is a whole other story! I am an anarchist and so I just Love how Steemit works and how power and money is allocated. Could it be that this model could provide us with a way to offer cheap and sustainable homes to everyone? 

With my limited knowledge of how the math of Steemit works, this looks very interesting to me! There could be significant sums of money coming in, and all of it held and powered up indefinitely.  There could be an entire community(s) using and trading this currency, and as it expands the total market cap of the coin also rises as people buy in and power up. Even when people leave and property is sold, we bring in more external investment as property prices are usually on the rise! 
I’m sure I must be missing some elements and so I hope you can help me to understand some of the details that I may be missing! 

A QUESTION FOR THE TECHNICALLY MINDED

- Would it make sense, and would it even be possible, to mine only when a new ecoHome purchase is made. This would mean the the market Cap of the ecoVillage would be directly related to the assets of the community and it wouldn't suffer from inflation. I'm not sure about the details of mining to understand this side of things very well. If we mine all the time then may that dilute the currency too much and cause deflation? Any info about these things would be appreciated as i haven't discovered these answers Online!

Please do let me know what you think in the comments!

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this is what the ecoTrain is all about! Amazing ideas and potentially ones that really could help make the world a better place!

im happy to support the ecoTrain account! It deserves a better rep!

Love the Idea! Though it does make me wonder whatever happened to the Smart Token idea that was proposed a few months back and how that could be integrated into this idea.... anybody know what happened with Smart Tokens? Anyone? Bueller? The gas issue (regarding expenses) could also be eliminated with Biomass and Biogas ( I mentioned some of the presently available solutions in an article I wrote here: https://steemit.com/permaculture/@ecoknowme/beyond-biotecture-the-evolution-of-earthships-ecoknowme) I think this could work really well and could be integrated into existing sites like PermacultureGlobal (an online resource for finding Permaculture farms, Demonstration sites, Teachers and Practitioners) The ability to move from Place to Place Internationally has HUGE appeal for people who are Digital or regular nomads who wish to make a living off their creative content and being able to share the successes and failures of various projects would be priceless for those hoping to do the same, or similar. Sadly, I am not the Techy Type, but I do hope someone chimes in... But in the least, such a Venture could (perhaps) already be started using the Steemit Platform and other Cryptocurrencies.... someone who invested a few thousand into any of these currencies (BTC, STEEM ETH etc) few month or Years ago would probably have enough now to realize this dream and show others how to do the same... they played their cards right. Really Look forward to seeing where this Idea goes and I hope it takes off and settles deep roots into the Heart and Minds of anyone interested in getting out of the Rat Race and into Greener Pastures. Bravo @eco-alex Bravo!

yea SMT's are rocking it.. there is a major one about to launch called vice.com.. since its SO new there arent many more yet ready to go..

This particular idea I THIK isnt suitable for SMT for various reasons.. but i hope to know more as i speak to people about it..

thanks for your support!

Always a pleasure. I think I need to do more research too, since I haven't seen much news regarding its development, but I'm sure it will be useful for other projects. Fingers crossed this idea gets the coverage it deserves and people take it and run with it! I can imagine a world where you can connect to an on and offline community where you can live and work anywhere in the world, with clean water, abundant power, organic food and amazing people all savoring the fruits of their labour. May this be the catalyst to thrust us into the future we know is possible, right now!

yes baba, yes! i think it IS possible this way! how amazing would that be!!!

Did you know that the accumulation of the 13 holy nights of Yuletide is called Epiphany? That is celebrated today: Epiphany. You just had it a little early ;-)

oh wow, that IS interesting! i didnt know that.. it has been a month of epiphany it seems

Yes, it has! ;-)

wow. I don't really know if this is your best idea ever, but nevertheless its a fucking amazing idea! Man this could literally change our society. 🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻

Go for it, build a team that supports this idea and make it happen!!

Today I start this because as u say it may be an amazing idea! Hopefully some geeks will comment

It's time for a paradigm shift and such ideas make me looking forward into a bright future! :) Aquarius is on its way ;)

Amazing comment i like it .

Thank you :)

You can have 'mining' based on any action, like building a new house or asset within the project.

Technically, in this case, it isn't really mining, steem for example is a proof-of-stake, where 'mining' is just controlled inflation, appearing based on staked decisions.

In your case, a 'proof-of-building' algorithm could be developed, which doesn't seem very hard (ie if building, increase money supply by 85% building value, or something simple like that, or something less simple too).

That said, I think I am leaning towards @likedeeler's suggestion in terms of currency.

I have thought a lot about this idea, more so the social institutions inside such a utopian society. This is a conversation that is worth having, and I would be honored to continue talking about it! These are the dreams by which the future is made!

thanks for your input.. that really helps! Good to know mining and is done like this.. i wasnt even sure how it worked for Steem! SO that sounds potentially perfect with mining reflecting the actual value of properties..

likedeelers suggestion is one I thought about, but i dont think it would fit the vision here.. since SMT's involve a hard fork of the existing blockchain, whereas in this case we dont really want or need existing users to be involved in the ecoVillage..

A coin which is trying to achieve something similar, at least that´s what I think, is SolarCoin, trying to incentivize solar electricity generation.
Like the political left, dissolving in ever smaller splinter groups, I see a similar danger in crypto, with more and more highly specialized coins, which might have some practical application but not a lot of demand behind them, entering the scene.
Why not use Steem for the ecovillage thing, giving Steem another practical application and more demand in the process and freeing yourself or your faithful serfs from the necessity to understand and master the intricacies of blockchain technology?

it wouldn't be possible to use steem.. since the whole whole thing would be a little different.. and we wouldn't want to have the power structure of the community based on the steemit members as that wouldnt make sense.. it IS complicated, and hard to answer too many questions yet! We also wouldn't want to take from Steemits reward pool etc as this is a real life community that needs its own security and protections and individuality

Good points, especially about current power structure.

Or an SMT, although I am not sure how those will be working exactly yet.

But Steem desperately needs new use-cases, as you suggest. Utopian.io is a good start, but the more practical applications we have, the better!

Hi Alex, this is a magical idea.

I have begun working over in Wales on some concepts that may well overlap, interact and have synergy with yours. I've been looking at SteemTowns and ideas for local currencies.

If you are on Discord anytime look me up, it would be great to discuss further.

ahhh, How interesting. I do have a discord account.. i just never use it.. How does one find you on discord? is it your steemit username?

WOuld love to chat about this yes!

Hi Alex. I'm @pennsif#9921 in Discord.

I'm usually most available on Discord in UK evening times after about 8pm.

ok great. i will look you up soon!

SORRY for the delay Pennsif. I havent forgotten, but i have been a bit distracted .. i will come and find you on discord soon!

This would be an absolutely HUGE endeavour, almost a little bit crazy, but crazy and genius walk a fine line together. The more applicability we can have with steem and the blockchain, the better

thanks for your comment! im known for being crazy and taking on HUGE impossible endevours! So this might be just right up my street!

Haha exactly, the earth ship for under $5,000 was another one of those crazy ideas, but mission accomplished. There is nothing creativity and hard work can't do

yup.. u said it!

Great ideas, its a huge project but totally possible.

I have actually been working on something similar for a year now. It only seems like an obvious future of which I am sure many will develop some variation of project.

To SteemFinity and Beyond!

Lets hope Many of us do develop something like this, it is quite compelling!
im still looking to speak with someone who knows about the fine print of the math etc.. to help advise what is the best way to do things.. I am writing some specific questions so if you happen to know any knowledgable folk maybe you can steer them this way for a peek!

thanks a Lot for checking this out, much appreciated! It has got me all fired up, and the least of my concerns are about the size of the project, but more about if it is feasible math wise relating to the coin value being stable. .. e,g how much can i realistically pre-mine to allow land purchase, how much should be mined thereafter etc..

hopefully the right person will show up at some point ;-)

do tell what u have been working on! im very curious what others are thinking and the different approaches people are taking

Love the concept, it's something I've often wondered about as many eco villages are currently beyond the reach of the less wealthy. I've never thought of applying it to a blockchain though. I don't know enough about it.

Did you manage to find a coder yet?

If it ever comes to fruition I'd certainly consider being involved on the Australia end.

thanks for your comment. I didnt yet find a coder, i think i have to be a bit more proactive.. I will chat with some people soon about it and see where this leads!

and thanks for the offer of involvement. I have my first volunteer! ;-)
all my best!

I hope you find one. Learning out yourself could the a while! Lol

wooow, you should definitely put some energy into this, I have no idea about the technical site either, but the collective ownership part and actually all your details make me super excited to read abut it and sometime take part in it as well!!! thanks!

thanks mate! i appreciate your encouragement!

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THANK U for helping me spread the word <3

thank you for the feature! I hope to get some good advice and connections and so this kind of support really helps! <3

I can't put into words how happy I am reading this post. It resonates so much with an idea that I've been stumbling to get off the ground for the past couple of years. I wanted to empower people with a platform that would give them access to the information and network that they would need to start urban farming for profit (much like what Curtis Stone does), thus lowering the barrier to entry so people can monetise spare garden capacity much like AirBnB allows people to monetise a spare room (though in this case without fees).

The name I had in mind for this was "SymbiGrow" and people could buy and sell food for a cryptocurrency called "SymbiCoin"

I'd love to explore synergies here between our visions, I truly believe that this is something the world desperately needs!

oh wow, that is a brilliant idea, i love it! Im sure there are many synergies between our visions..
im curious, are you technical, or understand the math behind the magic??

Thanks! My background is in chemistry, not computers, but I have a passion for crazy ideas that might just make the world a better place. I don't understand the math behind the magic, but I'm trying to arrange a call with a friend who has worked in fintech for a while who I believe might be able to shed​ some light! I sent him a link to your post last night, hopefully, ​he reads it soon :)

I am anarchist also and I like your idea. I live in the USA and not sure how long our multiple branches of government would "allow" a community to run like that. 😡😤

nice to hear.. i think if you do your thing and dont cause too many problems you can do a lot.. especially in the right part of USA. Taos is growing and is a very good offgrid community.. they did have Huge problems back in the day, but now they are working well with the local authorities

What a great idea, combining two beautifully liberating concepts of off-grid living and decentralized currencies. Unfortunately I'm not geeky enough to be able to comment on the technical aspects. But from the way you made it sound like, I'd be more than ready to jump in.

thank you stortbeker. that is already good to feel your enthusiasm for this idea!

It sounds amazing to me your idea! I don't understand any of the maths behind the block-chain, but I do see what a fabulous project it could be!
Lots of positive energy to make it happen!!! <3

thank u ,, yes its really complex stuff.. so im hoping some techie minded folk may show up and comment! ;=_ lets see what we all think@

Great idea sir. You always uploads interesting and important post sir.I also Upvote and resteem your post.Upvote and resteem sir.

great idea.i hope u will succeed

the future of steemit is bright....

Sorry not a coder or maths whizz :(

Just a creative who can certainly appreciate this concept of yours.

Fingers crossed some bright minds are up to help you.

Great stuff.

xox

yup! those coders are all too busy coding right now i think ;-)

Local realty taxes will have to be considered right?
There has been some discussion in a forum about buying real estate using cryptocurrency and taxes will have to be considered.

Depending on where the community is, yes! Maybe! We would obviously do everything legally.. but these details are a way off. It might be possible to be tax exempt if it is a none profit that us able to provide new, affordable and even free housing to the poor!

Interesting idea indeed, even though I don't fully understand most of the technicalities regarding crypto currency, mining and block chains - it sounds like it could work.

The main difficultly , as I see it, in building eco villages isn't the cost of building ecological, off grid houses. It's fairly well known (at least in certain circles) that it doesn't necessarily cost much to build a habitable home. The problem is more one of rules and regulations.. (at least in the country where I live) .. you need to pay vast sums of money to get approval, planning permission etc, before building anything - which not only is expensive (and doubtful if the authorities would accept ecocoins for their bribes and signatures) , it's also hard to get permission at all for such building projects as they don't fall within accepted limits and regulations.

great @eco-alex
i think its a beautifull idea

I really love this, Alex, and I look forward to watching it magically and beautifully unfold.

thank u, me too! i think this one might take some time to manifest ;-)

All in perfect time I'm sure.

Amazing idea Love it! When can we move in!